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Dan Jervis-Bardy
Dumping the words ‘net zero’ is ‘absolutely ridiculous’ – Bragg
The net zero debate has turned into a leadership test for Sussan Ley, who is under pressure for her main rivals Angus Taylor and Andrew Hastie to dump the target.
But she’s also under pressure from moderates such as Bragg to not simply fall in line behind the Nationals, who have already abandoned the target.
Asked if Ley’s leadership was finished if she caved to the Nationals, Bragg said:
I don’t believe that we’ll be leaving the Paris agreement. We’re not a fringe party.
Asked again if Ley can survive if the Liberals adopt the Nationals’ policy, Bragg said:
I don’t think you can have a fatwa on two words. I think that’s too silly for words, frankly. And I think at the end of the day, this is the international standard on decarbonisation. So Australia cannot sit out of its own international standard.
Speers keeps pushing Bragg on what it means if the words “net zero” are dropped from the policy entirely.
You can’t have a fatwa on two words. I mean, it’s ridiculous. This is the international standard. I mean, trying to pretend you’re not going to say two words is absolutely ridiculous.
Updated at 18.02 EST
Dan Jervis-Bardy
Bragg can’t see Australia leaving Paris climate agreement
Bragg is then repeatedly pushed on what a decision to dump net zero and leaving the Paris agreement would mean for his own future on the shadow frontbench.
He doesn’t think things will get to that point because he can’t imagine Australia is going to allow itself to be lumped with Azerbaijan, Iran and Syria in sitting outside the Paris pact.
Well, I just don’t believe that that’s going to happen. I don’t think it is within the realm of the possible.
Liberal senator Andrew Bragg. Photograph: Mick Tsikas/AAP
Host David Speers asks again if Bragg would quit the frontbench if the party dumped net zero and abandoned Paris.
Well, sure, but I don’t imagine we will ever leave Paris. We are not fringe dwellers. Most Australians want us to play our fair role in terms of reduction, so I just don’t think we are going to be leaving the Paris agreement.
(A quick point of clarification here: There is no serious talk that a future Coalition government would pull Australia out of the Paris agreement, the international treaty that aims to limit global warming to 1.5C. Even the Nationals – who are dumping net zero – say they are committed to Paris.)
Updated at 18.02 EST
Dan Jervis-Bardy
Liberals must ‘maintain a commitment to do a better job on net zero’ – Bragg
The Liberal senator Andrew Bragg is up on ABC Insiders ahead of a crunch week of meetings to determine the Coalition’s position on net zero emissions.
The shadow housing minister is among a group of moderate Liberals fighting to salvage the party’s commitment to the climate target, as conservatives push Sussan Ley to dump the policy entirely.
Bragg is asked to respond to his colleague Sarah Henderson’s insistence that the party should abandon net zero completely.
Unsurprisingly, he disagrees:
The Australian people are worried about climate change and so are we, and that’s why I would have thought that the most reasonable position here would be to stay in [the] Paris [agreement], maintain a commitment to do a better job on net zero and maintain a goal, because I think if you have anything less than that, then you are giving up on the idea that you will try and reduce emissions for future generations and after all, we are the trustees for future generations.
Updated at 17.40 EST
Greens condemn Sydney neo-Nazi rally
The NSW Greens have called for a new approach from NSW police and the premier, Chris Minns, after a neo-Nazi rally overtly targeting Jewish people was allowed to go ahead in Sydney on Saturday morning.
Greens MP Sue Higginson said on Saturday:
The Greens abhor antisemitism and racism and I was sickened to see neo-Nazis outside the NSW parliament today. The Greens condemn the actions and the rhetoric of these depraved racists. The Jewish community and people of colour in our state should not be subjected to this on our streets or news feeds.
Higginson said tougher laws on protests wouldn’t work this time, and that Minns “needs to deal with the actual issue”.
It’s time to set up a taskforce to work with the NSW police engagement and hate crime unit and the counter-terrorism command, and deal with the rise of the far right and racism in this state head on.
Updated at 17.53 EST
Good morning
Good morning and welcome to our live coverage of the goings-on this Sunday 9 November.
Princess Anne, sister to King Charles, touched down in Australia on Saturday for a royal visit.
Anne arrived in Sydney and laid a wreath at a memorial service. She is expected to attend Remembrance Day services and centenary events in Sydney and Brisbane.
Her visit comes less than a fortnight after the king stripped their brother Andrew of his title of prince.
The NSW Greens have condemned a neo-Nazi rally targeting Jewish people held in Sydney yesterday, which was allowed to go ahead outside NSW parliament.
The Greens have called for a new approach from NSW police and the premier in the wake of the event.
Updated at 17.53 EST