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68 min: Nketiah is at least finding space, and shoots wide this time.
67 min: Oliver Glasner is not happy. His team are increasingly disjointed. Nketiah makes another burst but again fails to find a teammate. Not much coming off for Palace.
65 min: Palhinha is immediately in the muck and nettles, throwing in tackles. Nketiah, another second-half arrival, is struggling to be on the same wavelength as his colleagues.
63 min: Devenny drifts a cross to the back post but again it’s beyond the reach of Nketiah. Palace are knocking on the door but failing to make themselves heard.
62 min: Bergvall goes down for Tottenham, and Thomas Frank is readying some changes. Odobert and Palhinha are coming on for Kolo Muani and Archie Gray, though Bergvall rolls down his socks to mean he rather than Gray goes off.
59 min: Nketiah almost immediately involved but Pino can’t reach him with his pass.
58 min: Palace sub: Nketiah on for Clyne, and Devenny will go to right wing-back.
57 min: Boos for a handball when Palace thought they had a corner. Mitchell picked up the ball when it was still not dead.
56 min: Ooof! So close. Pino’s ball in, Clyne heads down and Devenny can score but in spinning to hit it, can’t keep it down. Spurs continue to be a bit ropey.
Devenny misses a chance to score. Photograph: Andrew Couldridge/Action Images/ReutersShare
Updated at 12.54 EST
54 min: Richard Hirst, with whom I confused Jeremy Boyce, is himself confused: “To whoever pretended to be me: I was of course being ironic in saying that maybe football did begin in 1992. Someone who has been watching Fulham since 1965 and whose hero is Johnny Haynes is firmly rooted in the past!”
53 min: In odd boots, and tights, Spence is stretching out his leg in. Lerma meanwhile launches a long throw that looks one-handed, like a rugger lineout. Spurs fail to get quick ball when they get it clear…
52 min: Another Tottenham corner, can they find another goal? Porro goes for the near post. Looks like Djed Spence has done himself a mischief, his knee to be precise.
50 min: Wharton’s corner is headed away by Gray, who played much of last season as a centre-back. Next, Wharton tries to play a through ball but again the radar is faulty. Palace perhaps feeling the brunt of their long season so far.
49 min: The pressure is on Palace now, and they build up a head of steam, with Pino’s shot blocked, as Wharton lays him up.
47 min: Porro to zing one in, but this time it’s the right height for Henderson. At the other end, Mateta goes on the attack, Spence hacking clear.
46 min: We go again, with Selhurst still quiet, as LaCroix is also immediately booked for legging up Djed Spence.
Toby in Budapest gets in touch: “Of course it’s moot at this point, but I’m interested to know why Ghuehi’s handball was not given as a penalty (you say correctly)? It clearly deflected what would have been a very dangerous ball – it may or may not have been deliberate but they rarely seem to be when a penalty is given.
“You see ‘em given for less”, as they say.
”Thank you for your work, love your reporting otherwise, but some clarity here would be really helpful for my understanding of the rules!”
It hit him while sliding along, and was in a “natural” position. It would have been very harsh. And Gray scored his goal straight after, right?
Gareth Evans gets in touch, and he’s angry: “Not watching, overseas and can’t be fudged to find a feed, so keeping a lazy eye on the MBM for Spurs coverage. It’s reading like we’re having another game with no actual attacking plan but also looking shonky at the back.
“Frank isn’t doing himself favours at the moment either in what we see on the pitch or what he says away from it, is he? You can say someone will need time to turn things around but you’ve to show *something* coherent to suggest that person should be you.
“You also probably shouldn’t refer to finishing 17th to summarise last season as it’s not even half the story. This apparently awful squad was bolstered after winning the Europa League and breaking the cycle of near misses in the process. He’s causing an unnecessary schism in doing so. I’ve had a season ticket for well over 20 years, I don’t expect us to win everything whilst playing like Brazil 1970. I do expect us to attack with some impetus. We’ve not had that this season under Frank, particularly since everyone sussed the only plan he had (the long throw into the mixer).
“This turgid performance comes after over a week on the training ground, what is he doing?”
PS: “Of course we score as I press send. 91% of previous email stands.”
ShareHalf-time: Crystal Palace 0-1 Tottenham
It’s been mostly Palace but Tottenham have had the ball in the net twice; the second one counted. Spurs have not shown off much flashing blade stuff, it’s all a bit Gerry Francis, but Archie Gray’s first ever goal is a moment to remember.
45+3 min: Will Hughes booked for cynical sweep of Porro’s legs from under him. That takes him to four bookings. The suspension limit goes to eight after this week’s round of matches.
45+2 min: The Wharton radar lets him down again, as the first half closes disappointingly for Palace. Tottenham picked at the set-piece weakness that Palace have had, the fifth conceded in three games.
45 min: Four minutes added on, with Selhurst going quiet aside from the contingent from north London/Herts.
43 min: Archie Gray is 19, though we have heard much about him, as son of Andy Gray (not that one), and grandson of Frankie Gray, and great-nephew of Eddie Gray. Leeds royalty, though it’s odd to hear him described as English when all those forebears played for Scotland.
ShareGoal! Crystal Palace 0-1 Tottenham (Gray, 42)
That’s the first goal in Archie Gray’s career. Porro swings it in, Henderson flaps and Richarlison nods over, and Gray heads in from inches out.
Gray heads in for Spurs. Photograph: Malcolm Fell/Focus Images Ltd/ShutterstockGray celebrates with Muani after scoring. Photograph: Glyn Kirk/AFP/Getty ImagesShare
Updated at 12.21 EST
41 min: Tottenham’s Muani wants a handball after his run is stopped by a Guehi challenge. No penalty given, and correctly. A corner will have to do.
40 min: Mitchell’s ball into the box is dangerous and Bentancur clears. He needed to, Palace sense a goal before half-time and Will Hughes fires wide. Oliver Glasner is frustrated that went wide though Hughes, for such a fine player, is no goalscorer.
38 min: Steve Hudson gets in touch: “You mentioned Derby County in the terrible pitches conversation – the Baseball Ground was absolutely shocking for most of every season – only in October and April was it not two inches deep in mud. Surely the worst pitch. Wasn’t it undersoil heating that changed it all, so that the grass carried on growing all year, repairing wear and tear?”
Yes, I recall they used to import different grass, too, from Australia and South Africa.
36 min: Porro blams a shot wide and then claps, presumably as encouragement, rather than self-praise. Spurs have been rotten, in truth.
35 min: Spurs try to play out from the back, and that presents a chance to Wharton, on his favoured left foot but this time he can’t deliver any magic.
34 min: David Bowen gets in touch: “I’ve just spotted Djed Spence is wearing odd coloured boots. The right a vibrant orange, the left an energetic lime green. What are your thoughts/feelings/emotions on such a development?”
I’m OK with it, as long as they fit.
The different coloured boots of Djed Spence. Photograph: Javier García/ShutterstockShare
Updated at 12.13 EST
33 min: No Spurs attacks since that flurry around the disallowed goal.
31 min: Jefferson Lerma, standing in among the defence, has a problem. The cupboard is bare and him going off would mean a reshuffle. He’s soon enough back amid the fray.
29 min: The Spurs fans make themselves heard. Long trip home on the Windrush Line or via Victoria for them. Devenny, who has been lively among the sloth, has an effort. Wharton, such a classy player, is trying his best to set up something. He’s a stroller in the finest tradition. The modern game is no place for a stroller, you’d think, but he has real class, plays in his own time.
27 min: Will Hughes and Kolo Muani bring da ruckus after a dispute over a free-kick. It got heated, but not for long. Palace get the free-kick, from which LaCroix, sweetie, heads over to Mateta, who nods over. That counts as a big miss.
26 min: The game’s entertainment levels have not been high despite a couple of incidents. Perhaps it needs a pitch like the old Baseball Ground.