{"id":137797,"date":"2025-09-12T13:37:07","date_gmt":"2025-09-12T13:37:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/137797\/"},"modified":"2025-09-12T13:37:07","modified_gmt":"2025-09-12T13:37:07","slug":"peak-bubble-by-gary-marcus-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/137797\/","title":{"rendered":"Peak bubble – by Gary Marcus"},"content":{"rendered":"

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I don\u2019t know when the GenAI bubble will end. But this has got to be peak bubble:<\/p>\n

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I quote the first bit<\/a>:<\/p>\n

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In short<\/p>\n

OpenAI doesn\u2019t have $300 billion dollars <\/p>\n

They don\u2019t have anywhere near $300 billion dollars<\/p>\n

By their own (presumably optimistic) projection, they won\u2019t turn a profit until 2030. <\/p>\n

And all this from a company thought (or claimed) that GPT-5 was going to be tantamount to AGI (spoiler alert: it wasn\u2019t)<\/p>\n

For good measure Oracle doesn\u2019t have the chips they would need to fulfill the contracts, or even the cash to buy them.<\/p>\n

I won\u2019t say that it is all make-believe, but, well, you do the math. (Did people promising to build potential future greenhouses for tulip-growers in 1636 ever have it so good?)<\/p>\n

If Oracle actually collects its $300 billion, I will truly be astounded. As Dan DeFrancesco at Business Insider wrote this morning<\/a>, <\/p>\n

Of course, having a backlog of deals (more formally known as \u201cremaining performance obligations\u201d) doesn\u2019t guarantee they\u2019ll all come to fruition. The revenue isn\u2019t guaranteed, as contracts can be cancelled and the timing on all the deals isn\u2019t clear.<\/p>\n

Quoting investor Vinod Khosla from yesterday, \u201cMost [AI] valuations are bonkers<\/a>\u201d. <\/p>\n

Oracle\u2019s new market cap, near a trillion dollars, up nearly 50% this week, driven largely by this one apparently non-binding deal with a party that doesn\u2019t have the money to pay for the services, seems more bonkers than most.<\/p>\n

\u00a7<\/p>\n

For those of you who like pictures, here is a chart of \u201cOracle’s cloud revenue growth forecast\u201d from an article at Zero Hedge<\/a>. The recent increase in the company\u2019s valuation is more than the total of the two projected bars on the right. And, reminder, those are for revenue, not profits. <\/p>\n

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\u201cBatshit insane.\u201d <\/p>\n

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It\u2019s not just Oracle, though. The other problem here is that the total value of the tech market as whole, which is supposed to reflect the future of value of the companies within it, far exceeds what is likely ever to be delivered. <\/p>\n

An investor who is regular reader of this Substack put it to me this way in email yesterday:<\/p>\n

If people really believed ORCL was going to take all of this cloud business, then MSFT, AMZN, GOOG and CRWV stocks should be getting hammered by an equivalent amount, because this is all coming out of them. Yet all these equities are up (CRWV by 20%), with the exception of AMZN, which is slightly down.<\/p>\n

When they all start coming out with similar baloney, you will be able to add it all up, and come to the conclusion that 400% of GDP is future revenue and that 50,000 nuclear power plants will need to be built to power this stuff, a few new oceans will need to be discovered to cool everything, and a new continent or two will need to be found for the datacenters.<\/p>\n

We are well past peak bubble, in fact, and into peak musical chairs. It\u2019s not going to be pretty when the music stops.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"I don\u2019t know when the GenAI bubble will end. But this has got to be peak bubble: I…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":137798,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[256,254,255,64,63,105],"class_list":{"0":"post-137797","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-artificial-intelligence","8":"tag-ai","9":"tag-artificial-intelligence","10":"tag-artificialintelligence","11":"tag-au","12":"tag-australia","13":"tag-technology"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/137797","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=137797"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/137797\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/137798"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=137797"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=137797"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=137797"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}