{"id":172223,"date":"2025-09-27T07:08:07","date_gmt":"2025-09-27T07:08:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/172223\/"},"modified":"2025-09-27T07:08:07","modified_gmt":"2025-09-27T07:08:07","slug":"james-gunn-answers-our-burning-questions-about-peacemakers-explosive-sixth-episode-and-why-that-cameo-is-consequential-to-the-dcu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/172223\/","title":{"rendered":"James Gunn Answers Our Burning Questions About Peacemaker&#8217;s Explosive Sixth Episode and Why That Cameo \u2018Is Consequential to the DCU\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Spoilers ahead for Peacemaker: Season 2, Episode 6 (\u201cIgnorance is Chris\u201d).<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">I interviewed DC Studios co-chief James Gunn today about the latest episode of Peacemaker, which featured <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/peacemaker-season-2s-big-dcu-cameo-revealed-in-episode-6\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a cameo by Nicholas Hoult\u2019s Lex Luthor<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">In the episode, which Gunn wrote and directed, A.R.G.U.S. boss Rick Flag, Sr. (Frank Grillo), who\u2019s desperate to locate Peacemaker (John Cena) and his interdimensional portal-opening device, strikes a deal for Luthor\u2019s help in exchange for getting him transferred to a better prison. <\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">When pressed for what this deal with the devil means for <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/james-gunn-calls-peacemaker-season-2-the-man-of-tomorrow-prequel-says-it-directly-leads-into-the-2027-movie\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Gunn\u2019s Superman follow-up Man of Tomorrow,<\/a> where <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/james-gunn-reveals-first-details-on-man-of-tomorrow-confirms-superman-and-lex-luthor-have-to-work-together-against-a-much-much-bigger-threat-but-who-is-it\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Luthor and Superman will form an alliance against a greater threat<\/a>, Gunn said, \u201cWhat you can expect is that that relationship between Rick Flag and Lex Luthor is consequential to the DCU.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Read my interview with James Gunn below. (It has been edited for clarity.)<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: Nicholas Hoult\u2019s portrayal of Lex here is much colder, darker than his version in Superman and, judging from the reactions online, fans are really liking it. Is Lex like this simply because he\u2019s failed?<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: So, I think part of it is, yes, I mean he just had his ass handed to him by a super dog, and then he&#8217;s sentenced for the rest of his life, no matter what, to prison. And so, he&#8217;s in a bad, dark way in that respect.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">I was very surprised when we were shooting the scene to see that myself. And part of it is just he&#8217;s written a little \u2013 Peacemaker&#8217;s tonally different from Superman. Superman&#8217;s more heightened. Peacemaker is more naturalistic. And part of it is just going from one story to the other.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">And in that respect, I really love it because I think that&#8217;s what I loved about comic books and seeing different writers and artists create these different stories that were tonally different, but with these connected characters. And I think you can see that even in Peacemaker and Superman. And so, when you talk about getting to other directors, it&#8217;s going to be even more pronounced.<\/p>\n<p>Peacemaker Season 2, Episode 6: Lex Luthor Cameo<img alt=\"Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor in Peacemaker, Season 2. (Photograph by Courtesy of HBO Max)\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"progressive-image jsx-2021719738 image aspect-ratio aspect-ratio-16-9 jsx-2605834259 jsx-2338608387 hover-opacity\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" data-cy=\"progressive-image\"\/><\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: Is that the sort of interpretation and tone of Luthor we can expect in Man of Tomorrow?<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: No, because I think that, again, Man of Tomorrow will have his own feel to it. So, definitely, he&#8217;s defeated, that is true. So, we&#8217;re starting from a place where he&#8217;s defeated, but what you can expect is that that relationship between Rick Flag and Lex Luthor is consequential to the DCU.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: Lex\u2019s limp and the cane, I assume that&#8217;s because Krypto attacked him.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: Yeah, remember it&#8217;s not that far before that that happened.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: So will he be limping in Man of Tomorrow? Is that why he\u2019ll need power armor?<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: No, he&#8217;ll be better. He&#8217;s going to be better by that time.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: You mentioned how the Flag partnership with Lex is consequential. Does that mean, since they&#8217;re striking a deal for interdimensional tech in Peacemaker, can we expect the interdimensional dangers to continue with Man of Tomorrow? Is that an overarching thing for the DCU?<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: Well, I&#8217;m going to answer your question as a no, but with an asterisk. And I do think that you&#8217;re going to find out more about Lex&#8217;s and Rick&#8217;s partnership by the end of Peacemaker, you&#8217;re going to know more about it.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: What are your thoughts on people online <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/peacemaker-earth-x-best-dimension-ever-internet-thinks-its-figured-out-the-truth\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">figuring out the twist<\/a> that there were no people of color on the planet? And how tough, or important, was the level of detail on set to hide things like the Nazi flags or anything that could be coded as white supremacist?<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: Well, I think that it makes sense that people figured it out because all it takes is one person to go, &#8220;Hey, wait a second,&#8221; and see all of the background actors in Earth X. Then compare them to the background actors in our Earth or whatever, Earth One, and go, &#8220;Wait a second. We know we shoot in Atlanta, Georgia. There&#8217;s not exactly a dearth of black background actors and James is known for having a lot of diversity in those things.&#8221; So, I think it makes sense. <\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">It&#8217;s interesting though, because I showed the whole series to a lot of people before we ever put it on air. I get a final round of notes, watching the whole season. &#8220;Is there anything people don&#8217;t understand? Is there anything that&#8217;s too offensive? How are people going to react? What do I have to expect from an audience?&#8221; And it was people of all different ethnicities and not a single person noticed it. Not one person noticed it. So, the fact that they picked it up at the beginning of episode two or whatever, it was like, wow. Okay.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: Those hawk-eyed internet sleuths, man. They miss nothing.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But once it&#8217;s out, it&#8217;s out. You&#8217;re done.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: So, is this a world where the Allies lost World War II?<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: You&#8217;re going to find all that out next episode. You&#8217;re going to find all that out.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: That mystery character that&#8217;s teased in the promo for the next episode. Is that a character we&#8217;ve seen before? And please tell me it&#8217;s a live-action G.I. Robot getting sent to kill Nazis.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: It&#8217;s not. It&#8217;s not. People know who that character is already. They&#8217;ve already seen him in previews, so they&#8217;re making it very mysterious, but it&#8217;s not that mysterious.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: Can you talk about making Spider-Man canon in the DCU? I love the meme joke.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: Listen, I made Batman canon in Marvel so I thought I would just return the favor. So, I think now we can know that in the MCU they read plenty of DC Comics and in the DCU, they read plenty of Marvel Comics. It&#8217;s contradictory because you think in the DCU, DC Comics would be very popular, but nobody knows about them. They love Marvel Comics. And in the MCU, I think they voraciously read DC Comics.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: I wanted to also ask about the cold open and the melting photo. Is there something more sinister happening there, or is it just\u2026?<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: Yeah, it&#8217;s just tipping the audience off to, &#8220;Wait a second. Everything here is not what we fucking expect. Here we have these cute kids and this&#8230;&#8221; But there&#8217;s something darker below the surface.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">IGN: I&#8217;m loving the show and I can&#8217;t wait to see how it pays off.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn: I&#8217;m really so proud of [episode] eight. I can&#8217;t wait for people to see it. It&#8217;s really&#8230; Boy. For the comics nerds too, man. Shit. Great.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">For more on James Gunn\u2019s DCU, read our <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/peacemaker-season-2-episode-6-review-recap-cena-nicholas-hoult-lex-everything-finally-happens\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Peacemaker Season 2, Episode 6 review<\/a>, find out <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/man-of-tomorrow-what-do-we-know-about-the-plot-and-villain-of-james-gunns-superman-sequel\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">everything we know so far about Man of Tomorrow<\/a> and <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/man-of-tomorrow-script-image-has-fans-convinced-superman-and-lex-will-team-up-to-fight-brainiac\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">why we think Brainiac might be that film\u2019s villain<\/a>. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Spoilers ahead for Peacemaker: Season 2, Episode 6 (\u201cIgnorance is Chris\u201d). 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