{"id":187253,"date":"2025-10-03T10:01:10","date_gmt":"2025-10-03T10:01:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/187253\/"},"modified":"2025-10-03T10:01:10","modified_gmt":"2025-10-03T10:01:10","slug":"jane-goodall-changed-how-we-thought-about-chimps-why-did-we-know-so-little-before","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/187253\/","title":{"rendered":"Jane Goodall changed how we thought about chimps. Why did we know so little before?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Before Jane Goodall went to Tanzania for the first time in 1960 to observe chimpanzees, we knew little about their rich method of communication, or the fact they like being tickled. We certainly didn&#8217;t know they were capable of making tools.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">The renowned British primatologist and conservationist, who <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2025-10-02\/primatologist-jane-goodall-obituary\/102197696\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/102197696\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">died in the US on October 1, 2025, aged 91<\/a>, had a theory as to why.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;A lot of it was, nobody had been out in the wild with them, so that&#8217;s where one started to learn about complex social societies and all the different things they can do out in their own world,&#8221; Goodall told\u00a0Richard Fidler on <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/programs\/conversations\/dr-jane-goodall\/7774494\" data-component=\"Link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">ABC Conversations<\/a> in an expansive 2008 interview.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/programs\/conversations\/dr-jane-goodall\/7774494\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Stream Jane Goodall on her ground-breaking work with chimpanzees<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Because of Jane Goodall&#8217;s research and observations, we now know that chimpanzees make tools, laugh when they&#8217;re tickled, and so much more.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">But she also thought it had something to do with &#8220;arrogance \u2026 [and] a kind of fear&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Because once you break down this barrier that used to be perceived between humans on the one hand and all the animals on the other \u2026 and you start to think about other animals having personalities, minds and feelings, then it becomes harder to treat them the way we so often do.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">By 2008, Goodall had spent nearly 50 years researching chimps and was still as &#8220;utterly fascinated&#8221; by them as she was when she started working with them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Her work revolutionised primatology, animal behaviour research, and prompted renewed questions about what really separates humankind from apes.<\/p>\n<p>But what drew Goodall to chimps in the first place?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;When I was about eight, I read the Dr Dolittle books and there&#8217;s this wonderful story where he takes animals from the circus back to Africa, and I think that began it: seeing the monkeys,&#8221; Goodall explained.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Then, when I was about 10 or 11, I found the books about Tarzan of the Apes and of course I fell in love madly.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I knew there wasn&#8217;t a Tarzan, but I [decided] I would grow up, go to Africa, live with animals and write books about them. That was the dream.&#8221;<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A portrait of a young woman holding binoculars. The same woman petting a chimpanzee that's sitting beside her feet\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/6fddae81ab1acc074fda5b7da8017ee0\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">By 1965, Goodall was the focus of the CBS television show, Miss Goodall and the World of Chimpanzees. (Getty: CBS Photo Archive)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Everybody laughed at Goodall; not only did her family lack the money to fund such a lifestyle, but she was a woman coming of age mid-century who dreamed of becoming a researcher with no university degree to speak of.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;My mother said, &#8216;If you really want something \u2026 you never give up, you find a way,&#8221; she remembered.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">So, Goodall studied for a secretarial course alongside researching animals in her own time, and worked odd jobs until she had enough money for a ticket to Nairobi, Kenya.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"An old black and white photo of a man and woman standing next to a camera with a baboon climbing on the camera tripod\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/9ee0b8ae9ce9dfc9dc136bb0a2af290a\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Securing funding for Goodall&#8217;s initial six-month stint in Gombe Stream National Park was a struggle.\u00a0 (Getty: Hulton Archive\/Stringer)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">It was there she hoped her administrative skills would get her closer to the animals she dreamed of working with.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Not long after arriving in Africa in 1957, Goodall met Louis Leakey, a famed paleoanthropologist who was impressed by her knowledge of animals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;He was learning about our earliest ancestors from fossils &#8230; [and] felt that maybe he could learn or imagine better the behaviour of [our] Stone Age ancestors if we learned something about the behaviour of our closest relatives in the wild,&#8221; Goodall explained.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">That&#8217;s why he ended up sending her to observe a troop of chimps living in the wild in Tanzania&#8217;s Gombe Stream National Park for six months, aged just 26 in 1960.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It was very depressing in the first weeks, even months, because they were running away all the time,&#8221; she recalled.<\/p>\n<p>Loading&#8230;A degree of difference<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Eventually, Goodall developed the courage to approach a member of the tribe she later named David Greybeard.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It was really because he lost his fear. When I approached, he didn&#8217;t run away and the others who were ready to run stopped and looked and [thought], &#8216;Well, she can&#8217;t be so terrifying, David Greybeard&#8217;s just sitting there.&#8217; And so gradually, he led me into his magic world,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;The first time he allowed me to groom him, I couldn&#8217;t really believe it. Here&#8217;s this wild male chimpanzee, and he&#8217;s actually letting me groom him, the hair is coarse, the skin is warm.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Nothing, Goodall said, compares to the momentary crossing of the species barrier in this way.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2025-10-02\/primatologist-jane-goodall-obituary\/102197696\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jane Goodall&#8217;s final message to Australia<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">British primatologist Jane Goodall entered the African wilderness at 26, without any formal scientific training or university degree. She emerged with research that forever changed how we understand the animal kingdom.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Looking into the eyes of a thinking, feeling, being knowing that you&#8217;ll never really know what their thoughts are \u2014 which adds to the mystery \u2014 but knowing that there&#8217;s a real presence there, a conscience.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">That it was impossible to know what David Greybeard saw in her was &#8220;part of what made it so fascinating to go on studying&#8221; chimpanzees.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">In the years that followed, Goodall learned chimps have individual personalities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She saw their innate sense of curiosity up close, witnessed them laughing while getting tickled or mourning each other&#8217;s deaths, and began to develop a deeper understanding of the way they talk to each other.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A woman holds a stuffed toy monkey as she looks through a glass window watching t a chimpanzee\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/0a29eb22f7a2bfc7d6adc50ff2d63b88\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Goodall spent a great deal of time in close contact with her beloved chimps until researchers learned the risk of passing diseases onto them. (AFP: Greg Wood)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It&#8217;s a rich communication rather than language per se, thought of in human terms,&#8221; she explained. &#8220;They communicate emotion, which is a sort of language. The unique part of human language is that we can teach about things that aren&#8217;t present, we can make a plan for years ahead.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2021-09-11\/jane-goodall-on-humanity-and-hope\/100375246\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">How a tree, a dog and a chimpanzee taught Jane Goodall to hold on to hope<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Amid a changing climate and the COVID-19 pandemic, Jane Goodall shared her life lessons on hope.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s quite clear the difference between us and them is not a difference of kind, but only degree.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Goodall was also the first person to observe chimpanzees using tools \u2014 previously assumed to be a uniquely human trait.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">After witnessing a chimp using a modified stick to catch termites multiple times, the researcher sent a telegram to her mentor, who reportedly replied: &#8220;Well, now we have to redefine man, redefine tool, or accept chimpanzees as humans.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;So, it was the first of those barriers between humans and the rest of the animals to be broken down,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/programs\/conversations\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"ABC Conversations\" width=\"600\" height=\"120\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/4b13fe0058233121b29a42e4ad5c8bdb\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/image\/105123902\"\/><\/a>From observation to protection<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;There were way over a million [chimpanzees] when I began in 1960,&#8221; Goodall said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;The <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.worldwildlife.org\/species\/chimpanzee#:~:text=You%20Can%20Help-,Facts,about%2098%25%20of%20our%20genes.\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">very maximum today is 300,000<\/a>, spread over 21 nations because habitats are going all around the planet \u2026 human populations are growing, disease is spreading, and worst of all is the commercial hunting of all wild animals for food, the bush meat trade.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It&#8217;s absolutely not sustainable.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A collage of four pictures of a chimpanzee eating, swinging in a tree, and laying on the ground.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/7c853763a8a7488b1b5d824cc30440cf\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">The Jane Goodall Institute, founded in 1977, supports chimpanzees such as these ones, pictured in a Kenyan sanctuary. (AFP: Tony Karumba)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">This led to a much larger conservation mission for Goodall, on top of her scientific work.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">The primatologist was in the US when she died because she had been due to meet with students and teachers on Wednesday (local time) to <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2025-10-02\/jane-goodall-dies-aged-91\/105842164\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/105842164\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">begin planting 5,000 trees around wildfire-prone areas<\/a> in Los Angeles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Goodall said she had the &#8220;audacity&#8221; to pursue a career as a primatologist in the male-dominated 1960s, as well as fearlessly champion animal rights and environmental causes, in part because of her sage and supportive mother.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;She was wise, and that&#8217;s what happened to us. We&#8217;ve lost the wisdom where people would make a decision based on how [it would] affect our people in the future,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"An elderly woman wearing a microphone holds her arm up and waves\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/dd581dd0b25a57473e9c7389ec6c7800\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">In her later years, Goodall pivoted towards offering messages of hope and resistance. (AFP: Sven Hoppe)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;We&#8217;re basing huge decisions today on how [they] will affect the next shareholders meeting\u2026<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;This model of constant never-ending economic growth in a planet with non-renewable natural resources isn&#8217;t possible \u2026 we&#8217;ve only got this one.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She would only rest, she said, if we managed to &#8220;save the world&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So there&#8217;s no opportunity, I think, in my lifetime.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Listen to Jane Goodall&#8217;s full 2008 interview on the <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/programs\/conversations\/dr-jane-goodall\/7774494\" data-component=\"Link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Conversations podcast<\/a> on the ABC listen app.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Before Jane Goodall went to Tanzania for the first time in 1960 to observe chimpanzees, we knew little&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":187254,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26],"tags":[64,63,119299,119300,117210,119304,119303,119298,119297,119302,117211,128,119301,338],"class_list":{"0":"post-187253","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-wildlife","8":"tag-au","9":"tag-australia","10":"tag-did-jane-goodall-die","11":"tag-how-old-is-jane-goodall","12":"tag-jane-goodall","13":"tag-jane-goodall-age","14":"tag-jane-goodall-chimpanzee","15":"tag-jane-goodall-death","16":"tag-jane-goodall-died","17":"tag-jane-goodall-documentary","18":"tag-jane-goodall-institute","19":"tag-science","20":"tag-who-was-jane-goodall","21":"tag-wildlife"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187253","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=187253"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/187253\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/187254"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=187253"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=187253"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=187253"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}