{"id":191044,"date":"2025-10-05T06:45:14","date_gmt":"2025-10-05T06:45:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/191044\/"},"modified":"2025-10-05T06:45:14","modified_gmt":"2025-10-05T06:45:14","slug":"the-advice-ray-martin-lives-by-and-the-line-journalists-shouldnt-cross","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/191044\/","title":{"rendered":"The advice Ray Martin lives by and the line journalists &#8216;shouldn&#8217;t cross&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Australian journalist Ray Martin says it was legendary 99-year-old broadcaster David Attenborough who taught him the secret to a long and satisfying career.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;He was about 87 when I interviewed him first up,&#8221; Martin told a group of aspiring journalists on ABC&#8217;s The Assembly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I said &#8216;what&#8217;s the secret?&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He said, &#8216;Don&#8217;t do anything you don&#8217;t like. Don&#8217;t do anything you like. Only do things you love.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">After six decades as a journalist, 80-year-old Martin has received five gold Logies, and recently saw one named in his honour. But what he really loves is digging into the stories of people.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;If you&#8217;re going to be in the television game, it&#8217;s good to win a Logie, or good to win a Walkley award, or whatever it might be, but that&#8217;s not what drives you,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;What drives you is telling stories and interviewing people and being a journalist.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Ray Martin leans in to speak with a young man.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/06c0578a3abf1919b4463ed93b1676a3\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Ray Martin says the truth is at the core of good journalism. (ABC)<\/p>\n<p>The line journalists shouldn&#8217;t cross<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Martin&#8217;s drive to tell those human stories has stayed with him in an evolving journalism landscape, where trust is in decline.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I think there are too many journalists who tell us what they think rather than what the person they&#8217;re interviewing thinks,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I think that&#8217;s a line we shouldn&#8217;t cross.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;To get respect back, you&#8217;ve got to get back to telling the truth.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Three people sitting in chairs and one standing up on a set with a blue floor and black walls.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/51956616cbac8f9a8b4363a66e0f74d3\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Ray Martin spent much of his career at the helm of 60 Minutes.\u00a0 (AAP: Channel Nine)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">For Martin, the trick is balance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;If I were doing anything with the prime minister at the time, people would ring up saying, &#8216;It&#8217;s quite clear that you&#8217;re a card-carrying Liberal&#8217;, and the other half would say, &#8216;It&#8217;s quite clear that you&#8217;re a card-carrying communist&#8217; \u2026 That was fantastic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I knew they didn&#8217;t know what I was thinking, and I think that&#8217;s probably been forgotten today.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">But it&#8217;s not just the reporting that&#8217;s changed from Martin&#8217;s early days in the industry.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">He recalls a time working before the internet, where foreign correspondents needed a &#8220;pocket-full of coins&#8221; to feed stories back to Australia.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"John Howard, left, and Paul Keating, right, shake hands over a podium at which stands Ray Martin in an old film photo.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1b14eaabd2524e3dbc366ca3ea54ad25\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Ray Martin facilitated several political debates. (Archive pool: Reuters)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">This was the case when he was sent to New York to report on Rod Laver&#8217;s results at a major tennis tournament.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I had to get to a phone and ring it through to Sydney for a radio program,&#8221; Martin says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I had a friend who worked for the telephone company in America, and he gave me an out-of-order sign. I went to a telephone booth, and I put this out-of-order sign up so I could get the phone.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Martin says he had to tamper with the phone so he could play his tape recorder.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/iview.abc.net.au\/show\/assembly\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/externallink\/105777818\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"4_TheAssemblyS2_C-1207_iview_HPbanner_2048x256\" width=\"2048\" height=\"256\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/b6f8ec180e67d24d0d785d0375c0332f\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/image\/105787088\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I got back and rang AM and gave the results because I had this phone to myself,&#8221; he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;In those days, you had to really find a phone and enough coins and that sort of stuff.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Finding balance<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">As his career grew, Martin relocated to the US with his wife Dianne.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">It was here that she fell pregnant with their daughter, Jenna.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;We&#8217;d been married for 17 years before we had Jenna, and then Luke a couple of years afterwards \u2014 I honestly thought we weren&#8217;t going to have children.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2025-09-28\/guy-sebastian-the-assembly\/105671828\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Guy Sebastian on navigating fame<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Guy Sebastian opens up about the fan encounter that made him &#8220;burst into tears&#8221; and a court case with his former manager Titus Day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Raised by a single mother since the age of 11, Martin was the baby of the family, with four older sisters. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">In the absence of his father, he says he looked up to his brothers-in-law.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">When Jenna arrived, Martin knew he wanted to be present.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I stopped going on 60 Minutes because I was travelling around the world with a program like that. I didn&#8217;t want to be away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;We waited that long to have children. I wanted to be at home.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">He was aware at the time how quickly their childhoods would pass.<\/p>\n<p>Loading Instagram content<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;You only have them for a little time, and they become grown-up human beings,&#8221; Martin says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;In later life, I used to try to organise it so either the kids came with me on a trip, or else I&#8217;d only be away a very short time.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;When you love people, you really want to share experiences with them.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">This balancing act has proven effective for Martin, who lives close to both of his children, while still working.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">So, what is Martin&#8217;s hope for his legacy, when he finally decides to hang up the microphone?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;That people thought that I&#8217;d been fair in my coverage. If someone said, &#8216;I don&#8217;t agree with you, but you&#8217;re fair,&#8217; that&#8217;ll do me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Stream <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/iview.abc.net.au\/show\/assembly\/series\/2\/video\/MP2535H066C00GN1\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">all episodes of The Assembly<\/a> free on ABC iview or watch on ABC TV Sundays at 7.30pm.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Australian journalist Ray Martin says it was legendary 99-year-old broadcaster David Attenborough who taught him the secret to&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":191045,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[63412,64,63,13234,121014,25671,33705,134,121012,75647,10850,36348,121013,121011,74145,91621],"class_list":["post-191044","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-entertainment","tag-abc-iview","tag-au","tag-australia","tag-autism","tag-autism-awareness-australia","tag-award","tag-david-attenborough","tag-entertainment","tag-how-old-is-ray-martin","tag-journalism","tag-journalist","tag-ray-martin","tag-ray-martin-children","tag-ray-martin-family","tag-sir-david-attenborough","tag-the-assembly"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/191044","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=191044"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/191044\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/191045"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=191044"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=191044"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=191044"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}