{"id":22779,"date":"2025-07-26T04:39:09","date_gmt":"2025-07-26T04:39:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/22779\/"},"modified":"2025-07-26T04:39:09","modified_gmt":"2025-07-26T04:39:09","slug":"chatgpt-isnt-hurting-google-search-like-people-feared-it-would","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/22779\/","title":{"rendered":"ChatGPT isn\u2019t hurting Google Search like people feared it would"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">This week, I take a look at the surprisingly strong state of Google, Meta gets a new chief AI researcher, and more. If you haven\u2019t already, be sure to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/decoder-podcast-with-nilay-patel\/712542\/captions-ceo-gaurav-misra-interview-deepfakes-ai-misinformation\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">check out this week\u2019s Decoder episode<\/a> about deepfakes and where they are headed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Also, do you use an AI coding tool like Cursor or GitHub Copilot? I\u2019d love to know what works and what doesn\u2019t\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think we are doing very well through this moment\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">After spending time with Google executives during the company\u2019s I\/O conference in May, it was clear that they were feeling confident. Now, I\u2019m beginning to see why.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">ChatGPT is not making Google Search obsolete. If anything, AI is making Google stronger than before.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">During Google\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/712638\/alphabet-google-earnings-q2-2025-ceo-sundar-pichai-ai\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">earnings call this week<\/a>, CEO Sundar Pichai announced that AI Overviews in search results \u201care now driving over 10-percent more queries globally for the types of queries that show them, and this growth continues to increase over time.\u201d Put simply, when Google works like ChatGPT, people use it more. Pichai noted that this is particularly true for younger people, a demographic that the 10-blue-links version of Google had been losing relevance with for a long time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">ChatGPT doesn\u2019t appear to be curbing the growth of the Gemini app, either. Pichai said that daily prompts to Gemini increased by over 50 percent from the previous quarter. Gemini now has more than 450 million monthly users, up from 350 million in March. Google processed nearly a quadrillion AI tokens across all its products last month, which is more than double the number it processed in May.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Another telling sign of confidence has been Google\u2019s reaction to the AI talent wars. \u201cI look at both our retention metrics as well as the new talent coming in, and both are healthy,\u201d Pichai said on the earnings call. \u201cI do know individual cases can make headlines. But when we look at numbers deeply, I think we are doing very well through this moment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">While Mark Zuckerberg has managed to poach talented researchers from DeepMind, my sources say that Pichai and Demis Hassabis have been resistant to bidding wars and amenable to letting most people go. Contrast this with the mood at OpenAI, where research chief Mark Chen compared Meta\u2019s poaching <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/openai-meta-leadership-talent-rivalry\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">to the feeling of a home invasion<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">There\u2019s an industry-wide belief that DeepMind\u2019s bench is deep enough to withstand defections and that the company can quickly make reverse acquihire moves, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/openai\/705999\/google-windsurf-ceo-openai\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">such as its recent Windsurf deal<\/a>, as more AI startups seek refuge from the money-intensive game that only Big Tech seems capable of truly playing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cMeta right now is not at the frontier,\u201d Hassabis said <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=-HzgcbRXUK8&amp;t=1412s\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">in an interview with Lex Fridman this week<\/a>. \u201cMaybe they\u2019ll manage to get back on there, and it\u2019s probably rational what they\u2019re doing from their perspective because they\u2019re behind and they need to do something.\u201d Implicit in that statement is the idea that Google is operating from a position of strength in the AI race, a notion with which all the major players I\u2019ve spoken with privately agree.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Google is by no means unassailable. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theverge.com\/notepad-microsoft-newsletter\/712950\/openai-gpt-5-model-release-date-notepad#comments\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">GPT-5 is coming soon<\/a> and could blow past Gemini. ChatGPT is the Kleenex of chatbots, and that doesn\u2019t appear to be changing anytime soon. Meanwhile, Google is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pewresearch.org\/short-reads\/2025\/07\/22\/google-users-are-less-likely-to-click-on-links-when-an-ai-summary-appears-in-the-results\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sending fewer clicks<\/a> to websites, which threatens the give-and-take model that has fueled its business to this point. There\u2019s a real chance that Google\u2019s business may be broken up by the US government. At the very least, it will probably have to stop paying Apple for default status on the iPhone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Even still, AI so far isn\u2019t the threat to Google\u2019s business that many thought it would be. Instead, it\u2019s increasingly looking like Google is stronger than ever.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is the enigma of success in an industry that has no franchise value.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">&#8211; Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/713162\/microsoft-satya-nadella-layoffs-memo\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a public memo to employees<\/a> acknowledging recent layoffs and the company\u2019s climbing stock price.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUnfortunately, I think \u2018No bad person should ever benefit from our success\u2019 is a pretty difficult principle to run a business on.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">&#8211; Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/anthropic-dario-amodei-gulf-state-leaked-memo\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">in a leaked message to employees<\/a> about seeking funding from the Middle East.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf we can make intelligence accessible everywhere, affordable to everyone, and easy to understand, we can drive the biggest opportunity engine the world has ever seen and help more people live better lives.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">&#8211; Incoming OpenAI exec Fidji Simo subtly <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/openai\/710836\/instacarts-former-ceo-is-taking-the-reins-of-a-big-chunk-of-openai\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">laying the groundwork<\/a> for ads in ChatGPT.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve created more billionaires on my management team than any CEO in the world. They\u2019re doing just fine.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">&#8211; Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/9WkGNe27r_Q?si=sZ_SawHUe3NlZoqz&amp;t=3707\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">on the All-In podcast<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was given an offer that would explode [the] same day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">&#8211; Windsurf\u2019s second hire, Prem Qu Nair, <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/premqnair\/status\/1948420769945682413\" rel=\"nofollow\">on X, describing<\/a> the way Google hired away the startup\u2019s core engineering team.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Some interesting career moves this week:<\/p>\n<p>Mark Zuckerberg has found a chief AI scientist for his new Superintelligence AI lab: Shengjia Zhao, who co-created ChatGPT and GPT-4 at OpenAI. He\u2019ll report to Alexandr Wang. Over at Microsoft, AI chief Mustafa Suleyman landed several recruits from Google DeepMind (his former employer), including the VP of engineering for Gemini, Amar Subramanya. Meanwhile, Jacob Andreou, a former Snap exec, is leading product and growth for Suleyman\u2019s org.Speaking of Snap: Its SVP of revenue products, Darshan Kantak, is leaving just ahead of earnings, which is usually not a good sign. Anthropic CPO Mike Krieger and Duolingo CEO Luis von Ahn are joining the board of Figma just ahead of its IPO.Instacart CPO Daniel Danker is joining Walmart as \u201chead of global AI acceleration,\u201d reporting to CEO Doug McMillon.Tom Conrad is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/712262\/sonos-ceo-tom-conrad-speakers-arc-ace\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">officially<\/a> the permanent CEO of Sonos. 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