{"id":228754,"date":"2025-10-21T00:55:03","date_gmt":"2025-10-21T00:55:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/228754\/"},"modified":"2025-10-21T00:55:03","modified_gmt":"2025-10-21T00:55:03","slug":"cbc-launches-court-fight-to-keep-gem-subscriber-numbers-confidential","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/228754\/","title":{"rendered":"CBC launches court fight to keep Gem subscriber numbers confidential"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>CBC\/Radio-Canada has filed an application in Federal Court to fight an order directing it to disclose subscriber numbers for its Gem streaming service.<\/p>\n<p>The information commissioner ordered CBC to make available the number of paid subscribers to Gem following an access-to-information request for the data.<\/p>\n<p>CBC\/Radio-Canada president Marie-Philippe Bouchard told The Canadian Press the subscriber numbers are sensitive commercial information.<\/p>\n<p>That confidentiality matters when it comes to things like commercial negotiations on bundling Gem with other streaming services, Bouchard added.<\/p>\n<p>The public broadcaster is &#8220;charged with making some of our budget out of commercial relationships,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"A woman in a grey blazer and glasses sits looking off to the side.\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1761008103_589_default.jpg\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1.4999041594786275\" data-cy=\"image-img\"\/>CBC\/Radio-Canada president and CEO Marie-Philippe Bouchard waits to appear before a Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage (CHPC) in Ottawa, on Monday, Oct. 20. (Spencer Colby\/The Canadian Press)<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And that has to be played according to the rules of the market. And so we&#8217;re finding ourselves, with this ruling, uncomfortable with the interpretation.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In refusing to disclose the numbers, CBC cited exemptions for programming activities and information that could harm its competitive position.<\/p>\n<p>In her final report on the access-to-information complaint, Information Commissioner Caroline Maynard wrote that she agrees the subscriber numbers relate to CBC&#8217;s programming activities, but they also relate to its general administration, which means the exemption to disclosure does not apply.<\/p>\n<p>Maynard said that while &#8220;CBC did identify possible harms to its competitive position or to ongoing negotiations, it did not demonstrate that there was a reasonable expectation that these harms could occur, well beyond a mere possibility.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The information commissioner&#8217;s ruling contradicts the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission&#8217;s (CRTC) interpretation of what constitutes &#8220;sensitive commercial information,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>Bouchard said CBC\/Radio-Canada wants the courts to provide clarity on the issue.<\/p>\n<p>CBC won&#8217;t release numbers for &#8216;competitive reasons&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>Bouchard was questioned about CBC\u2019s decision to take Maynard\u2019s ruling to court during an appearance before the House of Commons heritage committee on Monday.<\/p>\n<p>Conservative MP Kevin Waugh pressed Bouchard on why she was uncomfortable releasing the number of paid Gem subscribers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAre you embarrassed about the numbers of CBC Gem? Why don\u2019t you come out and just say \u2018Here\u2019s the numbers we got,\u2019?\u201d Waugh asked.<\/p>\n<p>Bouchard offered that roughly 5 million people have created an account, though she declined to say how many are paid subscribers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe number of people who are paying is a number we keep confidential for competitive reasons \u2014 and it is validated by the CRTC. So we&#8217;re asking the court to simply reconcile these two interpretations that are contradictory,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>CBC launched the streaming service, which has both paid and free versions, in 2018. The paid version, which costs $5.99 a month, includes ad-free on-demand streaming and a stream of CBC&#8217;s 24-hour news channel, CBC News Network.<\/p>\n<p>Paid subscribers &#8220;are not what makes Gem,&#8221; Bouchard told The Canadian Press. &#8220;Gem is mainly a free-to-user service. And the paid part is really a commodity for people who don&#8217;t want advertising.&#8221; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"CBC\/Radio-Canada has filed an application in Federal Court to fight an order directing it to disclose subscriber numbers&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":228755,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[29],"tags":[64,63,134,427],"class_list":{"0":"post-228754","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-tv","8":"tag-au","9":"tag-australia","10":"tag-entertainment","11":"tag-tv"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/228754","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=228754"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/228754\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/228755"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=228754"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=228754"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=228754"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}