{"id":232189,"date":"2025-10-22T10:04:07","date_gmt":"2025-10-22T10:04:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/232189\/"},"modified":"2025-10-22T10:04:07","modified_gmt":"2025-10-22T10:04:07","slug":"james-gunn-rules-out-darkseid-as-the-big-bad-for-his-dc-universe-because-zack-snyder-did-it-so-cool-in-his-way-and-thanos-in-marvel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/232189\/","title":{"rendered":"James Gunn Rules Out Darkseid as the &#8216;Big Bad&#8217; for His DC Universe Because Zack Snyder &#8216;Did It So Cool in His Way,&#8217; and Thanos in Marvel"},"content":{"rendered":"<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">James Gunn has officially ruled out his fledgling DC Universe building towards Darkseid as the \u201cbig bad.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">In a joint interview with a number of YouTube channels that focus on Easter egg breakdowns of superhero franchises, Gunn said that because director Zack Snyder had intended \u2014 and even briefly featured \u2014 Darkseid as the DCEU\u2019s overarching enemy, and because of the character\u2019s similarity to Marvel\u2019s Thanos, the DCU was looking elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Responding to questions from <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Ea02rmgoO4Q?si=IA7IK0WLLJ5wUu7z\" class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">New Rockstars\u2019 Erik Voss<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/hXOKOQr0oWQ?si=zeTXo4ALsKt7E62E\" class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">ScreenCrush\u2019s Heather Antos and Ryan Arey<\/a>, Gunn said &#8220;using Darkseid as the big bad right now is not necessarily the thing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">The suggestion that Darkseid might have been the DCU\u2019s \u201cbig bad\u201d emerged after the ending of Peacemaker Season 2.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Warning! Spoilers for the end of Peacemaker Season 2 follow:<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Season 2 ends with Peacemaker trapped on Salvation, a planet in another dimension that acts as a prison for metahumans. In the DC comics, Planet Salvation has acted as a Parademon training ground, watched over by Darkseid himself. But this isn\u2019t what Gunn is going for here. In fact, Darkseid isn\u2019t the enemy Gunn\u2019s DCU is building towards either. And there are various reasons for this, he said, including the fact Darkseid made an appearance in Zack Snyder\u2019s DCEU, and also the character\u2019s similarity to Marvel\u2019s Thanos, who was the main villain up to Avengers: Endgame.<\/p>\n<p>Peacemaker Season 2 Finale Images<img alt=\"\" aria-hidden=\"true\" decoding=\"async\" role=\"presentation\" class=\"progressive-image jsx-2021719738 image aspect-ratio aspect-ratio-16-9 jsx-2605834259 jsx-2338608387 hover-opacity\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" data-cy=\"progressive-image\"\/><\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">\u201cFirst of all, there&#8217;s Kirby&#8217;s whole world which he created which is totally fascinating,\u201d Gunn began when asked what he thought of Darkseid as a character. \u201cSo, that&#8217;s a huge part of it. It&#8217;s the New Gods in general that is to me so interesting, which we&#8217;re dealing with with Mister Miracle. And I have the screenplay that I haven&#8217;t read yet on my shelf right now. So there&#8217;s that aspect of it.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">\u201cAnd then there are aspects of Darkseid in Thanos, who are obviously very similar. They look very similar. And because of that \u2014 to give you probably more of an answer than you expected \u2014 using Darkseid as the big bad right now is not necessarily the thing. For a lot of reasons, because Zack did it so cool in his way, and because of Thanos in Marvel.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">So, we can rule out Planet Salvation heading towards Darkseid and the Final Crisis storyline from the comics. That prompts another question: if Darkseid isn&#8217;t the DCU&#8217;s &#8220;big bad,&#8221; who is?<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">It&#8217;ll probably be some time before we find out. But it does look like <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/movies\/man-of-tomorrow\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Man of Tomorrow<\/a>, the 2027 follow-up to Gunn\u2019s Superman, <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/man-of-tomorrow-script-image-has-fans-convinced-superman-and-lex-will-team-up-to-fight-brainiac\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">will see Brainiac enter the fray<\/a>. Indeed, Superman and bitter rival Lex Luthor look set to put their differences aside (temporarily) to fend Brainiac off.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">That reference to Mister Miracle, by the way, is the adult animated series based on DC\u2019s 12-issue comic book series from Tom King and Mitch Gerads. It\u2019s the second adult animated series from Warner Bros. Animation and DC Studios following Creature Commandos Season 1. Season 2 is currently in production for HBO Max. Other recent series greenlights from DC Studios and Warner Bros. Animation include Starfire!, My Adventures with Green Lantern, and DC Super Powers.<\/p>\n<p>DC Universe: Every Upcoming Movie and TV Show<img alt=\"A lot is changing for DC's lineup of movies and shows in the years ahead. James Gunn and Peter Safran, co-CEOs of DC Studios, have a strategy for a more cohesive and interconnected lineup of content moving forward. It all starts with Chapter 1, dubbed &quot;Gods and Monsters.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#10;&#10;It can be very difficult to keep track of all the big changes at DC these days. That's why we've put together this comprehensive list of everything currently in the works, as well as the major projects that have either been officially canceled or gone dormant. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#10;&#10;Click on through the slideshow for all the details!\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"progressive-image jsx-2021719738 image aspect-ratio aspect-ratio-16-9 jsx-2605834259 jsx-2338608387 hover-opacity\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" data-cy=\"progressive-image\"\/><\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Earlier this month, during a roundtable Q&amp;A with press ahead of the Peacemaker Season 2 finale, Gunn was asked if he was planning a Peacemaker Season 3. <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/hes-really-important-to-me-james-gunn-rules-out-peacemaker-season-3-but-says-peacemaker-himself-is-now-set-up-for-a-broader-role-in-the-wider-dcu\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The answer was loud and clear<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">\u201cNo, this is about the wider DCU and other stories in which this [the ending of Season 2] will play out right now,\u201d Gunn replied. \u201cSo that doesn&#8217;t mean that there won&#8217;t be. I don&#8217;t want to\u2026 never say never. But right now, no. This is about the future of the DCU.\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">So if there\u2019s no Peacemaker Season 3, what\u2019s Gunn\u2019s plan for Peacemaker himself? Gunn revealed that the conclusion of Season 2 sets up Peacemaker, played by John Cena, to take on a broader role in the DCU moving forward.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">\u201cHe&#8217;s really important to me,\u201d Gunn said of the character. \u201cPeacemaker is an important character. And I said from the beginning when we took on this job, it&#8217;s about really propping up and maintaining and repositioning the big diamond properties that DC has, the Batmans and Wonder Womans and Supermans, and then creating diamond properties out of the smaller characters like Peacemaker.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/assets-prd.ignimgs.com\/2025\/10\/22\/gettyimages-2230013860-1761122528925.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\"><img alt=\"null\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"progressive-image article-image article-image-full-size jsx-1809694635 jsx-2338608387\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP\/\/\/yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7\" data-cy=\"progressive-image\"\/><\/a>James Gunn has ruled out Darkseid as the DCU&#8217;s &#8220;big bad.&#8221; Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris\/Getty Images.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Will Peacemaker himself appear in 2026 DCU film Supergirl or 2027\u2019s <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/movies\/man-of-tomorrow\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Man of Tomorrow<\/a>? \u201cWell we\u2019ll have to see,\u201d Gunn teased. \u201cThat&#8217;s a secret!\u201d<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">The DCU is set to continue in 2026 with the aforementioned Supergirl and a Clayface movie, alongside a Lanterns TV show. 2027 will see Man of Tomorrow. Matt Reeves\u2019 <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/movies\/the-batman-part-ii\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Batman 2<\/a>, which is part of the separate &#8216;Batman Epic Crime Saga,&#8217; is due out October 1, 2027.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">While we wait to find out what Gunn has up his sleeve, check out IGN&#8217;s <a class=\"link jsx-1337145738 jsx-3925284146 underlined\" data-cy=\"styled-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ign.com\/articles\/peacemaker-season-2-finale-review-recap-episode-8-john-cena-james-gunn-making-the-world-better\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Peacemaker Season 2 finale review<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Photo by Dimitrios Kambouris\/Getty Images.<\/p>\n<p data-cy=\"paragraph\" class=\"paragraph jsx-2269604527\">Wesley is Director, News at IGN. Find him on Twitter at @wyp100. You can reach Wesley at wesley_yinpoole@ign.com or confidentially at wyp100@proton.me.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"James Gunn has officially ruled out his fledgling DC Universe building towards Darkseid as the \u201cbig bad.\u201d In&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":232190,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27],"tags":[64,63,134,344],"class_list":{"0":"post-232189","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-movies","8":"tag-au","9":"tag-australia","10":"tag-entertainment","11":"tag-movies"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/232189","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=232189"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/232189\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/232190"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=232189"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=232189"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=232189"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}