{"id":245675,"date":"2025-10-28T05:48:11","date_gmt":"2025-10-28T05:48:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/245675\/"},"modified":"2025-10-28T05:48:11","modified_gmt":"2025-10-28T05:48:11","slug":"what-loving-someone-with-an-addiction-or-dependence-can-look-like","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/245675\/","title":{"rendered":"What loving someone with an addiction or dependence can look like"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">In her late teens, Edona says she cut her mother out of her life.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She says she loves her mum, a woman she describes as bright and bubbly.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Sometimes I swear people in our neighbourhood can hear us [laughing] a few houses down.&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">But Edona says it hurt to see her mother choose something else over her.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">That something was gambling, which left Edona feeling &#8220;betrayed&#8221; and impacted them both.<\/p>\n<p>Absolutely valid feelings<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Caroline Thain \u2014 a clinical advice and governance manager with Headspace \u2014 says &#8220;addiction is a very complex thing and there&#8217;s no one single cause or one single answer&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>If you or anyone you know needs help:<a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gamblinghelponline.org.au\/\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">National Gambling Helpline<\/a>: 1800 858 858National Alcohol and Other Drug Hotline:\u00a01800 250 015\u00a0\u2014 24\/7 info, counselling and referrals\u00a0(<a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/yourroom.health.nsw.gov.au\/getting-help\/Pages\/ADIS-Web-Chat.aspx\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">webchat available<\/a>\u00a0Mon-Fri 8:30am-5pm)<a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.al-anon.org.au\/\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Al-Anon<\/a>:\u00a01300 252 666\u00a0\u2014 support groups for those affected by someone else&#8217;s drinking<a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.beyondblue.org.au\/\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Beyond Blue<\/a>:\u00a01300 224 636\u00a0<a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.lifeline.org.au\/\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Lifeline<\/a>:\u00a013 11 14<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She says it can be lonely caring for or supporting someone living with a dependence or addiction and she believes this is partly because of the stigma that still surrounds it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Not reaching out and talking about addiction because of that \u2026 really strong fear of &#8216;I&#8217;m going to be judged in this, even though it&#8217;s not my personal addiction&#8217;, [or] &#8216;I&#8217;m going to be judged and my family member who I love is going to be judged&#8217;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/programs\/ladies-we-need-to-talk\/ladies-we-need-to-talk-addiction-daughter-wife-gambling-alcohol\/105937100\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Listen to the episode<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Yumi Stynes sits down with women who&#8217;ve been on the sidelines of someone else&#8217;s addiction, and who&#8217;ve found a path through a challenging situation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She says resentment is also a normal emotion to feel if you&#8217;re watching a family member behave self-destructively.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">\u00a0&#8220;I think it&#8217;s about recognising that you are absolutely valid in those feelings because it must be incredibly heartbreaking and frustrating \u2026 to watch.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A picture of Caroline Thain wearing a Headspace polo and smiling.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/b8a97fc8e6fb7d1ac6a427b4e4b29066\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Caroline Thain is a clinical advice and governance manager at Headspace. (Supplied: Caroline Thain)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She says if you want to support someone in your life these feelings don&#8217;t disqualify you, it&#8217;s about recognising and processing them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Then you can turn up with those self-care strategies that you have embedded in your life.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I would also say it&#8217;s also OK if you decide that you can&#8217;t or you don&#8217;t want to.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Active acceptance&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Ms Thain also says acceptance is not &#8220;a passive stance&#8221;, rather &#8220;an active thing that we can do where we look at all the discomfort in front of us and say, &#8216;I am choosing to do this&#8217;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;This&#8221; could look like choosing to accept someone &#8220;for whatever reason or reasons&#8221; is unable or won&#8217;t take steps to support themselves and &#8220;this is what my role is going to be&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;That might be &#8216;I cannot keep supporting you&#8217;, or &#8216;I can only support you in these ways&#8217;, or it&#8217;s actually &#8216;I have to take some time and step away for a period of time&#8217;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Harm reduction and workable boundaries<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Ms Thain says, &#8220;I also think it&#8217;s important that as a carer you don&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s your responsibility to terminate the addiction&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;We talk a lot about harm minimisation and there&#8217;s real power in just thinking about minimising harm and walking alongside someone through a journey of recovery, which can take time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Chloe Span smiling in a comfy-looking room decorated with a poster titled &quot;Hallucinogenic Plants&quot;\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/20355c3dd438b7469f7e571a242fdd7b\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Chloe Span from Family Drug Support Australia says it&#8217;s unrealistic to expect anyone with a dependency to immediately cease. (ABC News: Danielle Bonica)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Chloe Span is the Victoria state manager for Family Drug Support Australia (FDS), an organisation that supports families affected by alcohol or drug dependence. She says shame and stigma &#8220;really drives this situation underground&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Control is probably one of the main sorts of concepts that we work with families on, because most people come to FDS wanting to fix the situation, they want the answers, [and] they want the solution.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">But Ms Span says drug and alcohol dependence &#8220;can be a chronic relapsing condition and people do change, but it&#8217;s incrementally over time when they are ready&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Our philosophy is absolutely harm reduction because it&#8217;s unrealistic to expect anyone that has a dependency to immediately cease.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Ms Span says, &#8220;it might get to the stage where you need to make your own decisions about what you need for your own health and wellbeing&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She says workable boundaries might look like, for example, turning your phone off at midnight and back on at 7am and telling someone you won&#8217;t be available during that time.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;I make decisions which are good for me&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">11 years ago, Victoria \u2014 whose name has been changed for privacy \u2014 says she went to Al-Anon, a support group for the families and friends of someone with an alcohol dependence, for the first time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Victoria says she had spent years feeling shame, anger and resentment about her husband&#8217;s alcohol use.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I would go to bed at night, and I&#8217;d be listening for what was going on \u2014 because a lot of the drinking would go on overnight \u2014 then I&#8217;d get up earlier in the morning to just do a bit of a surveillance and check what was going on and either get him up or clear up bottles and drinks and things and just try and hide it from the kids.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2025-06-11\/sandwich-generation-women-caring-for-parents-kids\/105379812\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The rise of the sandwich generation<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">The women caring for everyone at the same time<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Over the years, Victoria says she tried changing her husband&#8217;s drinking several ways; tracking his consumption, bargaining, badgering and leaving notes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I used to actually say to my mum, &#8216;why do you stay with Dad when he is like this?&#8217;, and she&#8217;d say, &#8216;oh but I love him&#8217; and I felt I was feeling the same as my Mum.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">When she finally went to Al-Anon, terrified someone would recognise her, Victoria says &#8220;there were people who knew my story \u2026 and I heard them say things that I could relate to.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Things such as &#8220;the three C&#8217;s, I didn&#8217;t cause it, I can&#8217;t control it, and I can&#8217;t cure it&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Victoria says her life has &#8220;changed for the better since&#8221;, because she&#8217;s not trying to &#8220;control&#8221; her husband or &#8220;solve his drinking&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Six years ago, in 2019, she also stopped living with her husband.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I make decisions which are good for me, and it might sound a bit selfish, but once I backed off trying to control him, my life&#8217;s a lot better and my mental health is a lot better.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Through the group, she&#8217;s learnt the term &#8220;lovingly detached&#8221;, which is &#8220;still caring about the person but allowing them to get on with their own [life].&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Change how I am around her&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Edona says after cutting contact with her mum, she had &#8220;friends and family saying, &#8216;if you were to not speak to your mother again, nobody would blame you&#8217;.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">But more recently she says she was &#8220;sitting on the couch&#8221; thinking about what she was going to do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I thought to myself, well, obviously I&#8217;m feeling like she&#8217;s not going to change, but I can kind of change how I am around her and choose to be a bit more calm about my ways of dealing with it, rather than trying to expect her to do what I want her to do.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Edona says whenever she and her mother share a positive moment, it can feel like &#8220;it cancels out everything that&#8217;s bad&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In her late teens, Edona says she cut her mother out of her life.\u00a0 She says she loves&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":245676,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[6116,64,63,134,146104,108653,146105,146102,146103],"class_list":["post-245675","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-entertainment","tag-addiction","tag-au","tag-australia","tag-entertainment","tag-family-drug-support-australia","tag-gambling-harm","tag-headspace","tag-how-to-love-someone-who-has-an-addiction","tag-ladies-we-need-to-talk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/245675","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=245675"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/245675\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/245676"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=245675"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=245675"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=245675"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}