{"id":247463,"date":"2025-10-29T00:22:16","date_gmt":"2025-10-29T00:22:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/247463\/"},"modified":"2025-10-29T00:22:16","modified_gmt":"2025-10-29T00:22:16","slug":"how-blackrock-systematic-uses-ai-and-alternative-data","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/247463\/","title":{"rendered":"How BlackRock Systematic Uses AI and Alternative Data"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">In a world where asset managers strive to differentiate themselves from the competition and capture the attention of financial advisors, one approach has been systematic investing. Systematic investing involves using a repeatable, rules-based process, often paired with the use of technology, to come up with investment recommendations based on insights gleaned from both traditional economic and alternative data.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">According to BlackRock Systematic, a division of global investment giant BlackRock with $336 billion in AUM, its approach to systematic investing is aimed at delivering consistent alpha returns, even through periods of market volatility. Over a five-year period, BlackRock Systematic claims that roughly 90% of its funds have outperformed peer medians. BlackRock\u2019s Systematic investing team, which comprises 230 people globally, has experimented with techniques such as using machine learning for portfolio construction and works on an investment horizon of three to four months, according to Jeff Shen, PhD, co-chief investment officer and co-head of BlackRock Systematic Equities. The number of market signals the team relies on to make its investment decisions has grown from just three when it started in 1985 to over 1,000 today.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WealthManagement.com recently spoke to Shen about the evolution of systematic investing approach, what types of data sets it uses, how it incorporates AI and large language models into the process and why Shen\u2019s team focuses on active equities strategies.<\/p>\n<p data-component=\"related-article\" class=\"RelatedArticle\">Related:<a class=\"RelatedArticle-RelatedContent\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/investing-strategies\/wealth-management-invest-building-resilient-portfolios-with-vanguard-s-todd-schlanger\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Wealth Management Invest: Building Resilient Portfolios with Vanguard\u2019s Todd Schlanger<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">This Q&amp;A has been edited for length, style and clarity.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: Can you talk about how BlackRock\u2019s approach to systematic investing is different from competitors?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Jeff Shen: What we do is try to take interesting data\u2014could be traditional data, could be alternative data\u2014and use advanced techniques, such as machine learning, AI and translate that data through modern techniques into forecasts for active portfolios. We are hoping it will generate consistent and differentiated alpha over different market cycles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">Compared to our competitors, what sets us apart is the usage of alternative data through modern techniques, especially learning AI systems. Also, having an investment horizon that\u2019s three to four months is a little bit distinctive. A lot of quant shops can have pretty short investment horizons, sometimes intra-day. For us, it\u2019s an intermediate horizon.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">The last thing I want to mention is that we think about this as a team sport. It\u2019s 230 people working together across the globe, across asset classes and trying to bring that together in one platform.<\/p>\n<p data-component=\"related-article\" class=\"RelatedArticle\">Related:<a class=\"RelatedArticle-RelatedContent\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/investing-strategies\/morningstar-short-term-active-fund-outperformance-is-often-random\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Morningstar: Short-Term Active Fund Outperformance Is Often Random<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: Can you give me some examples of the alternative data you\u2019ve mentioned?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">JS: One is a macro example. The labor market is certainly a big variable that the Federal Reserve looks at very carefully. We have been looking at job posting data over the past six to seven years. At any moment in time in the U.S., there are about 30 million job postings populated on different websites\u2014company websites, some of the aggregated websites.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">That gives you a bit of a sense of the health of the economy, who\u2019s hiring, the velocity of hiring, wage inflation because some of the postings indicate their wage range. In that way, you can get a bit of a sense of the propensity of the labor market, the health of the labor market, but also forward-looking inflation indications. It covers both private and public companies, so it gives you a pretty good sense of the overall labor market.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">A second example has a little more to do with social media information. We are not interested in individual posts, but the aggregated market sentiment we can draw from social media to use a company as a unit of analysis and see what people, whether retail investors or maybe other firms, are saying about different stocks. And then we try to draw a little bit of the retail sentiment through social media on different companies.<\/p>\n<p data-component=\"related-article\" class=\"RelatedArticle\">Related:<a class=\"RelatedArticle-RelatedContent\" href=\"https:\/\/www.wealthmanagement.com\/investing-strategies\/orion-unveils-portfolios-combining-direct-indexing-with-third-party-models\" target=\"_self\" data-discover=\"true\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Orion Unveils Portfolios Combining Direct Indexing, Third-Party Models<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">The technology underneath it is the use of language processing, and large language models clearly come into play as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: What has changed over the past several years in terms of the kind of data and tools you might be using? What new techniques are you seeing rapidly developed in this field?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">JS: If you go to the last couple of years, one obvious one is the large language model. ChatGPT was released about two years ago. We had a couple of natural language processing insights that we were already using to transform our technology six or seven months before the release of ChatGPT. Nevertheless, we are using a lot of those technologies, generative AI, large language models, to read through a lot of these alternative data sets and social media, financial news, regulatory filings. You can really think about using machines to read through a lot of these texts, to try read between the lines, to try to find sentiment and interesting insights. That stack of technology continues to evolve, and there are a lot more exciting things on the horizon\u2014multi-language, multi-modal. In addition to text, think about voice, video, image.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">The less obvious development has to do with thinking about using machine learning for portfolio construction. Mean variance optimization\u2014maximize returns, minimize risk\u2014has been around for a long time, and there have been pretty interesting developments in using machine learning, using neural networks in particular, for portfolio construction. That part may come as a bit differentiating and may be a surprise to people. We don\u2019t really see too much application of that type of technology in portfolio construction, but we\u2019ve been doing quite a bit of work on that over the past couple of years, and it has been showing quite a bit of promise.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: When it comes to using AI in your work, can you talk about the main advantages it offers and maybe some of the limitations of AI in the field of systematic investment?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">JS: Maybe I define AI in the narrow sense. When people talk about AI it probably has more to do with the generative AI or large language models. But in the broader sense, if you look at any of the AI book, that\u2019s just one part. A very important part, but there are a lot of other things that are the bread and butter of AI.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">I\u2019ll focus on generative AI and large language models first. The benefits are that these things are very good at reading texts and finding insights, meanings, and investment theses. So, we\u2019ve applied that in our security selection, some of the macro investments. In that sense, it\u2019s played the role of a financial analyst. With that investment analysis piece, you can use generative AI and large language model to not only provide efficiency, but to provide scalability. You can do this beyond one stock or one company at a time. You can do it on a large scale 24\/7 with very timely updates. That creates huge efficiency and productivity, but also there is precision in terms of finding meaning from the text aspect of it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">In terms of the limitations, clearly, there are two things. One is the generic large language model that you can get from a third party\u2014Open AI, or Gemini, or Anthropic. It doesn\u2019t necessarily cater to financial services as a vertical. So, there are limitations on deep understanding of the particular domain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">The second limitation that\u2019s particular to systematic investing is that time is an interesting challenge for large language models. If you were to do a back test or simulation, you need to make sure that the large language model only knows up to that particular time what\u2019s going on in the world. Otherwise, you get this very strong peek-ahead bias by using an off-the-shelf large language model. If you ask, \u201cIs Nvidia a good investment or not?\u201d today, a large language model knows it\u2019s a phenomenal investment. But would it be able to think about Nvidia without that knowledge in the simulation set 10 years ago? So, point in time in a large language model is certainly an important part.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">The last part that I want to raise is to zoom it out slightly. I do think there is a lot of excitement about generative AI and large language models, but there is a whole list of additional technologies and systems that we use that I don\u2019t hear people talking about too much. There is reinforcement learning. There is deep learning. There is a lot more depth in AI. The fortunate thing is that a big part of our group is based in San Francisco, so we\u2019ve had the front row seat to AI revolution for the past 15, 16 years. That\u2019s why we are investing heavily into the space.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: A lot of the focus in systematic investment is delivering alpha. In the past couple of years, there has been a particular focus on actively managed funds to achieve that. However, from the research we\u2019ve seen from Morningstar, as well as comments we\u2019ve gotten from financial advisors, it\u2019s tough for any given fund to outperform beyond the short term. How do you deal with this dilemma, and where does the systematic investing approach come in?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">JS: Active management is definitely not easy. It\u2019s a zero-sum game. From our perspective, the benefit is our history. Our U.S. equity fund was launched in September 1985. So, we have a 40-year track record of trying to beat the S&amp;P 500, and it\u2019s done very much that.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">We\u2019ve also expanded our universe internationally, in global markets, emerging markets.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">There is definitely the difficulty for active managers to outperform. We come with a certain level of confidence, legacy and history. But on a forward-looking basis, to deliver that consistency of alpha over time, in our mind, it\u2019s about innovation and innovation at scale. You\u2019ve got to think about new insights and what\u2019s going to be driving the market, which is always going to be a little bit different from what was driving the market before.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">I do think using AI and machine learning and things we have been talking about to essentially build scale for investment is becoming more important. When I say \u201cscale,\u201d it means \u201chow many data sets do you have?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">We spend millions and millions of dollars every year on data\u2014technology, systems development. We are also using the BlackRock scale and reach. Trying to drive that scale for the benefit of alpha generation to try to deliver that consistency is a differentiator relative to some of the maybe smaller-scale players.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: How do you work with financial advisors on all this?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">JS: We have three main sets of products that we engage with financial advisors on. There are quite a few benchmark-driven active mutual funds that we help to run to try and deliver returns that are above and beyond the S&amp;P 500.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">We do have market-neutral liquid alts funds. We have a Global Equity Market Neutral Fund [BDMIX] that has actually been around for a while and is gaining quite a bit of traction, given that it\u2019s got market-neutral characteristics. But it still delivers that alpha return for advisors. (Over a five-year period, BDMIX delivered a total return of 10.85%. The Morningstar average for the category is 7.14%.)\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">And we\u2019ve also gotten a few active ETFs that have gained traction. We\u2019ve got a rotation series\u2014it\u2019s rotating between different factors, different themes. And we\u2019ve got some income active ETFs as well. So, active ETFs is another way to engage with the financial advisors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: Among these three types of products, do you find that they appeal to different segments of the advisor ecosystem?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">JS: It\u2019s a bit more firm-specific. There are people who certainly prefer an ETF type of vehicle. For model builders, active ETFs can be quite attractive.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">For the benchmark-driven mutual funds, clearly, among some of the wirehouses, there is quite a bit of interest in that. It\u2019s consistent alpha with a reasonable fee, and that\u2019s why there is a lot of traction there.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">And then the liquid alts fund [BlackRock Systematic Multi-Strategy Fund (BIMBX)], from a portfolio construction perspective, the advisors are essentially using it as a fixed-income replacement, as a diversifier in a portfolio. We\u2019ve seen a high rate of adoption for that across RIAs and wirehouses. So that appeals across the spectrum. [BIMBX has delivered a total return of 4.94% over a 10-year period compared to a Morningstar category average of 3.02%.]<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: What do you include in the definition of \u201cliquid alts\u201d?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">JS: We have essentially a global equity market-neutral long-short fund. In any given country or sector, we go long on a bunch of names or short a bunch of names to keep it reasonably market-neutral so there is not too much of a net exposure. It\u2019s very similar to a long-short equity hedge fund, but it has all of the liquid alts characteristics associated with it. It\u2019s a daily liquidity fund. But if you take the return we generate in it and correlate it to the S&amp;P 500, you will have a correlation pretty much close to zero.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">WM: In terms of building up your capabilities, have you made any outside firm acquisitions in recent years?<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">JS: Within the BlackRock systematic group, we haven\u2019t made any acquisitions. On the overall talent perspective, we\u2019ve continued to invest. It\u2019s really been an ongoing journey, investing in technology, data science, AI, machine learning, talent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">What we do here, given this three-to-four month investment horizon, is try to get people who have finance\/economic background, alongside people who have engineering\/computer science\/machine learning background and blend the two to solve the problem. From the talent strategy perspective, we\u2019ve been continuously trying to hire top talent.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"ContentParagraph ContentParagraph_align_left\" data-testid=\"content-paragraph\">One thing I want to mention that BlackRock as a firm has an AI lab that has been a firm commitment for the last six, seven years and there are a few Stanford\/Berkeley professors we\u2019ve been working with.\u00a0<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In a world where asset managers strive to differentiate themselves from the competition and capture the attention of&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":247464,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[64,63,99,186,184,185],"class_list":{"0":"post-247463","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-personal-finance","8":"tag-au","9":"tag-australia","10":"tag-business","11":"tag-finance","12":"tag-personal-finance","13":"tag-personalfinance"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/247463","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=247463"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/247463\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/247464"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=247463"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=247463"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=247463"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}