{"id":250265,"date":"2025-10-30T05:34:15","date_gmt":"2025-10-30T05:34:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/250265\/"},"modified":"2025-10-30T05:34:15","modified_gmt":"2025-10-30T05:34:15","slug":"a-q-a-on-3i-atlas-at-perihelion-by-avi-loeb-oct-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/250265\/","title":{"rendered":"A Q &#038; A on 3I\/ATLAS at Perihelion | by Avi Loeb | Oct, 2025"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a rel=\"noopener follow nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/avi-loeb.medium.com\/?source=post_page---byline--62b7d592519b---------------------------------------\" data-discover=\"true\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Avi Loeb\" class=\"m fk by bz ca de\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1*upiboNSChj1BIvycXiID7w.png\" width=\"32\" height=\"32\" loading=\"lazy\" data-testid=\"authorPhoto\"\/><\/a>Press enter or click to view image in full size<img alt=\"\" class=\"bi ma ng c\" width=\"700\" height=\"395\" loading=\"eager\" role=\"presentation\"\/>A series of images captured on Aug. 22, 2021 by Goldstone\u2019s 70-meter radio antenna, showing asteroid 2016 AJ193 rotating. The 1.3-kilometers wide object was the 1,001st near-Earth asteroid to be measured by planetary radar since 1968. (Credit: <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jpl.nasa.gov\/news\/planetary-radar-observes-1000th-near-earth-asteroid-since-1968\/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">NASA\/JPL-Caltech<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p id=\"efce\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">When exactly did 3I\/ATLAS make its closest approach to the Sun?<\/p>\n<p id=\"e60b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">The perihelion time for <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/3I\/ATLAS\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">3I\/ATLAS<\/a> was today, October 29, 2025, at 7:47AM Eastern Time, according to the JPL Horizons fit to its trajectory. The timing uncertainty is only a few minutes.<\/p>\n<p id=\"8d39\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">Did anything happen to 3I\/ATLAS at perihelion?<\/p>\n<p id=\"e312\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">We do not know since it is hidden from our terrestrial telescopes behind the Sun.<\/p>\n<p id=\"5769\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">Can we possibly map 3I\/ATLAS with a radar system?<\/p>\n<p id=\"5c93\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">A radar system with a radio telescope <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jpl.nasa.gov\/news\/planetary-radar-observes-1000th-near-earth-asteroid-since-1968\/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">was used<\/a> in the past to image asteroids and comets from the Solar System. The same technique can be applied to large interstellar objects, like 3I\/ATLAS. The first radar observation was of the asteroid <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/echo.jpl.nasa.gov\/asteroids\/Icarus\/Icarus_planning.html\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">1566 Icarus<\/a> in 1968. I calculated today that we could have imaged 3I\/ATLAS with existing radar systems if Earth was located on the opposite side of its orbit around the Sun, corresponding to where Earth had been 6 months ago or will be again 6 months from now. At that location, 3I\/ATLAS would have passed within 54 million kilometers from Earth. Assuming a minimum diameter of 5 kilometers for 3I\/ATLAS (as derived <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2509.21408\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), the interstellar object would have been detectable by existing radar systems on Earth. This would have given us a direct measurement of its size and images of its three-dimensional shape through multiple snapshots taken as it rotates every 16.2 hours. The observed radio flux scales in proportion to the object\u2019s diameter squared and inversely with its distance to the fourth power. The latter dependence stems from the fact that the radio flux impinging on its surface declines inversely with distance squared and the observed flux from its reflective surface adds another inverse dependence on distance squared. The steep dependence on distance makes the radar detection of 3I\/ATLAS unfeasible even at its closest distance of 269 million kilometers from Earth on December 19, 2025.<\/p>\n<p id=\"36e2\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">Do we know about whether it really is a natural comet or something else?<\/p>\n<p id=\"5b7c\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">3I\/ATLAS is most likely a comet of natural origin, but there are 8 anomalies that endow it with a rank of 4 on the Loeb scale (quantified <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2508.09167\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> and <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2509.06253\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), where a rank of 0 is for a definitely natural interstellar object and a rank of 10 is for a definitely technological object. The 8 surprising properties of 3I\/ATLAS are as follows:<\/p>\n<p id=\"d716\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">\u00b7 Its trajectory is aligned to within 5 degrees with the ecliptic plane of the planets around the Sun, with a likelihood of 0.2% (see <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2507.12213\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"a7be\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">\u00b7 During July and August 2025, it displayed a sunward jet (anti-tail) that is not an optical illusion from geometric perspective, unlike familiar comets (see <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2509.07771\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"019e\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">\u00b7 Its nucleus is about a million times more massive than <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/1I\/%CA%BBOumuamua\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">1I\/`Oumuamua<\/a> and a thousand times more massive than <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/2I\/Borisov\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">2I\/Borisov<\/a>, while moving faster than both, altogether with a likelihood of less than 0.1% (see <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.3847\/2515-5172\/adee06\/ampdf\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> and <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2509.21408\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"0785\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">\u00b7 Its arrival time was fine-tuned to bring it within tens of millions of kilometers from Mars, Venus and Jupiter and be unobservable from Earth at perihelion, with a likelihood of 0.005% (see <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2507.12213\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"3a2a\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">\u00b7 The gas plume around 3I\/ATLAS contains much more nickel than iron (as found in industrially-produced nickel alloys) and a nickel to cyanide ratio that is orders of magnitude larger than that of all known comets, including 2I\/Borisov, with a likelihood below 1% (see <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2510.11779\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"1d91\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">\u00b7 The gas plume of 3I\/ATLAS contains only 4% water by mass, a primary constituent of familiar comets (see <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.3847\/2041-8213\/ae0647\/pdf\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"58ec\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">\u00b7 3I\/ATLAS showed extreme negative polarization, unprecedented for all known comets, including 2I\/Borisov, with a likelihood below 1% (see <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2509.05181\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"5d49\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">\u00b7 3I\/ATLAS arrived from a direction coincident with the radio \u201cWow! Signal\u201d to within 9 degrees, with a likelihood of 0.6% (see <a class=\"ah nl\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/avi-loeb.medium.com\/was-the-wow-signal-emitted-from-3i-atlas-d18d4f0d1f1e\" data-discover=\"true\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"6ba6\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">Multiplying these small probabilities yields a cumulative likelihood lower than a part in ten quadrillion (10^{16}).<\/p>\n<p id=\"d922\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">After asking radio observers to monitor 3I\/ATLAS because of the last anomaly, I was assured yesterday that this is being done. Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna is graciously helping to get the HiRISE images of 3I\/ATLAS from October 2, 2025 released to the scientific community.<\/p>\n<p id=\"f646\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">If 3I\/ATLAS maneuvers, releases mini-probes, or transmits radio signals, then we will know that it is technological in origin. Other technological signatures include artificial lights or excess heat from an engine. If 3I\/ATLAS is a natural comet glued together by weak forces, its heating by 770 watts per square meter at perihelion may break it up into fragments which evaporate more quickly. The resulting fireworks might generate a much brighter cometary plume of gas and dust around it.<\/p>\n<p id=\"2937\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">What do you think it is?<\/p>\n<p id=\"c12e\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">We have to collect as much data as possible to figure out the nature of this anomalous object. The implication of alien technology would be huge and therefore we must take this possibility seriously. Our biggest rocket, Starship, is a hundred times smaller than 3I\/ATLAS, so in case 3I\/ATLAS is technological \u2014 its senders master capabilities that go well beyond our technologies.<\/p>\n<p id=\"cd55\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">How does the technological scenario compare to science fiction films?<\/p>\n<p id=\"32ff\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">Science is better than fiction, because nature might be more imaginative than the best script writers for science fiction movies in Hollywood. Rather than imagine who might be our dating partner, we better observe it.<\/p>\n<p id=\"8ffc\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">ABOUT THE AUTHOR<\/p>\n<p>Press enter or click to view image in full size<img alt=\"\" class=\"bi ma ng c\" width=\"700\" height=\"1060\" loading=\"lazy\" role=\"presentation\"\/>(Image Credit: Chris Michel, National Academy of Sciences, 2023)<\/p>\n<p id=\"24af\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hl no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj he bl\">Avi Loeb is the head of the Galileo Project, founding director of Harvard University\u2019s \u2014 Black Hole Initiative, director of the Institute for Theory and Computation at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, and the former chair of the astronomy department at Harvard University (2011\u20132020). He is a former member of the President\u2019s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology and a former chair of the Board on Physics and Astronomy of the National Academies. He is the bestselling author of \u201c<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/extraterrestrial-avi-loeb?variant=39935330418722\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Extraterrestrial:<\/a> <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/extraterrestrial-avi-loeb?variant=39935330418722\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth<\/a>\u201d and a co-author of the textbook \u201c<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hup.harvard.edu\/catalog.php?isbn=9780674987579\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Life in the Cosmos<\/a>\u201d, both published in 2021. The paperback edition of his new book, titled \u201c<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/interstellar-avi-loeb-1?variant=40982888415266\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Interstellar<\/a>\u201d, was published in August 2024.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Press enter or click to view image in full sizeA series of images captured on Aug. 22, 2021&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":250266,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[64,63,128,285],"class_list":{"0":"post-250265","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-space","8":"tag-au","9":"tag-australia","10":"tag-science","11":"tag-space"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/250265","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=250265"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/250265\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/250266"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=250265"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=250265"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=250265"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}