{"id":271568,"date":"2025-11-08T18:05:08","date_gmt":"2025-11-08T18:05:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/271568\/"},"modified":"2025-11-08T18:05:08","modified_gmt":"2025-11-08T18:05:08","slug":"steve-albini-on-what-made-the-rolling-stones-dummer-charlie-watts-so-special","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/271568\/","title":{"rendered":"Steve Albini on What Made The Rolling Stones Dummer Charlie Watts So Special"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tMy book<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Backbeats-History-Rock-Fifteen-Drummers\/dp\/1668056240?asc_source=web&amp;asc_campaign=web&amp;asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rollingstone.com%2Fmusic%2Fmusic-features%2Fbackbeats-drummers-excerpt-charlie-watts-rolling-stones-1235445211%2F\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> Backbeats: A History of Rock and Roll in 15 Drummers<\/a> tells a familiar story from an unfamiliar vantage. Moving from Chicago blues to Phil Spector\u2019s early-1960s confections to the British Invasion, the birth of punk, metal, grunge, and hip-hop, the book tracks the seven-decade story of rock and roll as if drummers were the main characters.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tAnd why not? Though they aren\u2019t typically as famous as guitarists and singers, drummers have been just as crucial to the creation of this music, possibly even more so. Rock and roll was a rhythmic revolution above all, and who could imagine what it would look like without the Bo Diddley beat (created by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/drummer\/\" id=\"auto-tag_drummer\" data-tag=\"drummer\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">drummer<\/a> Clifton James), the \u201cBe My Baby\u201d intro (played by Hal Blaine), or the thunderous power of John Bonham?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tCharlie Watts embodies this book\u2019s thesis. It\u2019s impossible to imagine the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/the-rolling-stones\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rolling Stones<\/a> without him, and he was just as crucial to their sound as Keith Richards\u2019 guitar or Mick Jagger\u2019s singing. In this excerpt I discuss why his blues- and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/music\/music-features\/charlie-watts-rolling-stones-drummers-beatles-jazz-1216494\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">jazz-influenced<\/a> style was so unique and important to their group\u2019s development.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIt\u2019s hard to overstate how difficult it was for young British people to obtain records from American jazz- and bluesmen in the 1950s and \u201960s. Figures like Blind Lemon Jefferson, Bukka White, and even Muddy Waters and Howlin\u2019 Wolf were still obscure in the US at the time. It wasn\u2019t until 1958 that Waters and a few other performers came to Britain for a tour, and if you missed those concerts then you had to make do with what you could find in the few specialist record shops, where obsessives like Brian Jones and Keith Richards were your competition for the limited supply. Lonnie Donegan, a crucial figure in the development of UK rock and roll, got his early jazz and blues records by stealing them from the American embassy in London. But the scarcity drove these young men together.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\t\u201cThat scene became the only chance you had to play that music,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/t\/charlie-watts\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Charlie Watts<\/a> said. \u201cIt was a chance to talk about those records.\u201d When Keith Richards and Mick Jagger arrived in London\u2019s burgeoning local blues venues, they found Watts already playing drums a few nights a week with another band while attending art school.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe trio of Jagger, Richards, and Watts played their first gig together in 1962, before Beatlemania. From the start, their tastes ran rougher than the pop-minded Liverpudlians: they made their reputation on Wolf and Muddy covers, and the Stones would never have been caught playing tunes from The Music Man, for instance. But in their early years, Jagger and Richards were relatively focused on traditional British songcraft, especially in their ballads. Original songs like \u201cRuby Tuesday\u201d and \u201cI Am Waiting,\u201d even \u201cPaint It, Black,\u201d revealed eclectic, exotic tastes and studio approaches.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tEditor\u2019s picks<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"c-lazy-image__img lrv-u-background-color-grey-lightest lrv-u-width-100p lrv-u-display-block lrv-u-height-auto\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rollingstone.com\/wp-content\/themes\/vip\/pmc-rollingstone-2022\/assets\/public\/lazyload-fallback.gif\" data-lazy-src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/11\/backbeats-book-cover.jpg\" alt=\"\" data-lazy- data-lazy- height=\"1024\" width=\"678\" decoding=\"async\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tCourtesy of Simon and Schuster<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThe latter became instantly iconic for its sitar melody, but it is also a major drum feature, especially for the time. Watts\u2019s pounding toms set the tone for the thrumming verses, then he leaps into the chorus with a heavy backbeat and massive fills. And as much as Watts is known for demureness, both musically and otherwise, it\u2019s worth noting that his wild playing is all over the band\u2019s mid-1960s singles and hits, from \u201c19th Nervous Breakdown,\u201d which perfects the Who\u2019s jacked-up R &amp; B feel, to the swinging triplet blues \u201cHeart of Stone,\u201d and the power-pop buried gem \u201cGotta Get Away.\u201d Then there\u2019s \u201cGet Off of My Cloud,\u201d which opens with Watts\u2019s bouncing beat, built on a snare fill. All these songs rely on a strong backbeat more than harmonies or guitar solos, for example. The drums are intrinsic to the arrangement, even in this more traditionally melodic era.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn the defining early Stones anthem \u201c(I Can\u2019t Get No) Satisfaction,\u201d Watts\u2019s drum break\u2014performed only on the snare and hi-hat\u2014is a hook to equal Richards\u2019s three-note guitar melody. The song swings on Watts\u2019s snare drum throughout, as he keeps a steady quarter-note pulse. Instead of a traditional backbeat on the two and four, Watts played every note on \u201cSatisfaction,\u201d one-two-three-four. The Rolling Stones were defined by the sound of Charlie Watts\u2019s snare from their first public breakthrough.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tRelated Content<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThat snare sound is as instantly identifiable as Miles Davis\u2019s muted horn or Eddie Van Halen\u2019s pyrotechnic neck tapping. No one else has a backbeat like Charlie Watts, and it\u2019s the first thing any drummer will say about him. So how did he achieve it? Like any iconic musical voice, he had his physical peculiarities. He played with a \u201ctraditional\u201d stick grip, meaning his left stick, which hit the snare, went through his fingers at an angle like a bottom chopstick. Drumming with a traditional grip takes the power away from your elbow or shoulder\u2014they won\u2019t be any help. It has to come from the wrist, in a whip motion, like a viper attack. Charlie Watts held his trunk and head so still, and never played loudly or overexerted himself, but his snare sounds like he was whacking the dust off it, like he\u2019d put in a dollar and never got his cigarettes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tWatts also played a lot of rim shots, where the stick hits the head and the metal hoop around the drum simultaneously. It further sharpens the sound into a crack rather than a thud, and forces additional reverberations from the drum\u2019s shell. Watts\u2019s snare sound was really a mix of sounds\u2014a thwacking snap on the head, the vibration of the air in the drum itself, the click of wood on the rim. Recorded in faux-blues verit\u00e9 style, his backbeats were alive. And like fingerprints, no two were precisely the same.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIt shouldn\u2019t surprise any blues fan, but Watts achieved this sound on banged-up vintage equipment, even as the trend for giant, customized sets grew through the 1970s and \u201980s\u2014even when he was competing for stage space with Mick Jagger riding on a giant inflatable penis. Gina Schock is the drummer for the Go-Go\u2019s, who opened for the Stones on the Tattoo You tour in 1981. \u201cThe drum tech said the rug underneath it was worth more than the kit,\u201d she told me. (She added, in a south Baltimore drawl that she has heroically preserved despite a half century on the West Coast, \u201cCharlie was a perfect gentleman.\u201d)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tMoreover, he played his ancient drums quietly. No matter how big the Stones\u2019 crowds got, no matter how enormous the stage show, you\u2019d never see his elbows raise. He played everything at a reasonable, even modest volume, and let microphones capture the nuances of his sound\u2014another jazz technique. If your art depends on developing a unique voice, you don\u2019t seek it by screaming all the time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI spoke with Steve Albini, the fiercely, iconically independent musician and recording engineer, in February 2024. Known for his unadorned, documentary techniques and specifically for his full-bodied drum sounds, Albini recorded all-time records for the Pixies, Nirvana, Slint, PJ Harvey, Low, and literally hundreds of other bands over three decades, in a schedule that ranged from experimental groups in his actual neighborhood to Robert Plant and Jimmy Page. His artistic philosophy was closer to that of Alan Lomax (or his fellow adopted Chicagoan Leonard Chess) than what we typically think of as a \u201crecord producer.\u201d \u201cI like it when a recording is convincingly naturalistic,\u201d he told me. \u201cThat\u2019s the most successful basic recording scenario, when it\u2019s a convincing representation of what was happening in the room. The band should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want to do. I\u2019m here to help.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tI called him to ask about drummers, and he brought up Watts unprompted. \u201cThe thing that\u2019s amazing about Charlie Watts is the little rhythmic peculiarities in his playing. It\u2019s almost like his playing is for him alone. He marches right through the song. His natural gait has a loping to it, it\u2019s not boom-boom-boom. There\u2019s a pulse, separate from the tempo, and I love how committed to it he is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tIn the 1970s, Watts started to omit his hi-hat when he played backbeats, which put even more emphasis on the snare. You can hear just how clear it is on \u201cSway,\u201d \u201cHappy,\u201d \u201cBeast of Burden,\u201d and other masterpieces from this era. \u201cHis hi-hat peccadillo, the lift,\u201d Albini described it, \u201cit\u2019s like a hardcore drummer. And it creates a stutter in the rhythm.\u201d He compared Watts to two other masters of rhythmic simplicity, AC\/DC\u2019s Phil Rudd and Bun E. Carlos from Cheap Trick, both of whom had such uncluttered styles that their personalities, like Watts\u2019s, shone through in the spaces between their notes. They defined their bands by their unrelenting swing and backbeat. They made themselves elemental to their bands\u2019 personalities.<\/p>\n<p>\t\tTrending Stories<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThose two hard rockers came well after the Stones, however. Tremendous as they both are (and my goodness, I love Cheap Trick at Budokan, a drastically underrated drum album), Watts never hit hard. He emphasized his backbeat by keeping his playing loose; everything in his entire bodily approach to drums was designed to highlight the snare. His fellow drummers, always his sharpest observers, said as much. \u201cCharlie played even less than me,\u201d Ringo once joked. Stewart Copeland of the Police noted that Watts\u2019s jazz influence meant he \u201cderived power from relaxation. Most rock drummers are trying to kill something; they\u2019re chopping wood. Jazz drummers instead tend to be very loose to get that jazz feel, and he had that quality.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph larva \/\/ lrv-u-line-height-copy  lrv-a-font-body-l   \">\n\tThis essay is adapted from John Lingan\u2019s new book, \u201cBackbeats: A History of Rock and Roll in Fifteen Drummers,\u201d which will be published by Scribner on Nov. 11.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"My book Backbeats: A History of Rock and Roll in 15 Drummers tells a familiar story from an&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":271569,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28],"tags":[64,63,119371,157844,134,136,36486],"class_list":{"0":"post-271568","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-music","8":"tag-au","9":"tag-australia","10":"tag-charlie-watts","11":"tag-drummer","12":"tag-entertainment","13":"tag-music","14":"tag-the-rolling-stones"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/271568","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=271568"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/271568\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/271569"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=271568"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=271568"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=271568"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}