{"id":324078,"date":"2025-12-03T02:49:12","date_gmt":"2025-12-03T02:49:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/324078\/"},"modified":"2025-12-03T02:49:12","modified_gmt":"2025-12-03T02:49:12","slug":"rare-forvie-beach-find-remains-of-a-deep-sea-octopus-say-experts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/324078\/","title":{"rendered":"Rare Forvie beach find remains of a deep-sea octopus, say experts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Steven McKenzieBBC Scotland<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1764634456_186_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 gUePlo hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/6aa0df90-cf95-11f0-abcb-0189553bc54a.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"eager\" alt=\"NatureScot A person who is wearing protective gloves holds a piece of octopus arm. The arm is pink and has suckers along its length. The person is standing on a sandy beach and the nearby sea is flat calm.\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hLdNfA\"\/>NatureScot<\/p>\n<p>The discovery at Forvie in Aberdeenshire left wildlife enthusiasts mystified<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">What appeared to be tentacles washed up on an Aberdeenshire beach are the remains of a deep-sea creature called a seven-arm octopus, say experts.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">A local member of the public spotted the arms with rows of suckers at Forvie National Nature Reserve at Collieston, near Ellon, on Sunday and alerted reserve staff.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Some detective work has led to the animal being identified as one of the world&#8217;s largest species of octopus.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Also known as a septopus, giant gelatinous octopus or blob octopus, they have eight arms like other octopus &#8211; but in males one of the arms is also a reproductive organ that they <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.gu.se\/en\/news\/unusual-catch-of-octopus-benefits-science\" class=\"sc-f9178328-0 iCaRzc\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">attach to females when mating<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Marine biologist Dr Lauren Smith, of East Grampian Coastal Partnership, said seven-arm octopus were a &#8220;remarkable and rarely documented&#8221; species.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">They live hundreds of metres below the surface of the sea and females, which are larger than males, can grow to 13ft (4m) long.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Forvie NNR covers about 2,471 acres (1,000 ha) of sand dunes and heath between the North Sea and the estuary of the River Ythan.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">The area is known for seals and also has the largest tern and black-headed gull colony in mainland Scotland.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Reserve staff described the arms as a rare find.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">A spokesperson said: &#8220;We were first made aware that there was something odd on the beach over the weekend, when a local walker spotted part of the octopus on the beach. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;However, we couldn&#8217;t get out until after the next high tide when only sections of the tentacles could be found. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;These were something we clearly hadn&#8217;t seen before, with a large diameter and big suckers &#8211; far too big for the common curled octopus we see around the shore here.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1764634456_186_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 gUePlo hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/7bee4e50-cf94-11f0-b259-a9faa8642480.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Dr Lauren Smith\/East Grampian Coastal Partnership A person's booted foot next to two arms, which have been laid out on the sandy beach along with a yellow tape measure.\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hLdNfA\"\/>Dr Lauren Smith\/East Grampian Coastal Partnership<\/p>\n<p>The arms washed up on the beach over the weekend<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">The reserve said speculation was rife it could be the remains of a giant squid, another elusive deep-water creature which can grow up to 14m (46ft) in length.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">A giant squid was washed up dead at nearby Newburgh in 1998, but the suckers on the Forvie arms did not have teeth like a squid&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">The spokesperson said this then left the reserve with &#8220;a mystery&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">It put out feelers, including to Aberdeen University&#8217;s zoology department and museums.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Eventually the arm were identified as belonging to a seven-arm octopus, which has the scientific name Haliphron atlanticus.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;These are a deep water  species &#8211; usually found below 1,640ft (500m) &#8211; so it&#8217;s a puzzle how it came to be here,&#8221; said the spokesperson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">They said most of the North Sea &#8211; except the Norwegian Trench, which is about 2,296ft (700m) deep  &#8211; was shallower than that. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;Washed up by deep water currents? Trawled up by fishermen? We&#8217;ll probably never know,&#8221; said the spokesperson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;But it&#8217;s a fascinating find nonetheless and yet again serves to illustrate how little we know about deep-water creatures.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1764634456_186_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 gUePlo hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/a3dc0650-cfa3-11f0-a7ae-216dd0212f3b.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Dr Lauren Smith\/East Grampian Coastal Partnership A woman wearing a blue woolly hat, green jacket and trousers and red shoes is down on one knee in a garden while holding one of the octopus arms.\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hLdNfA\"\/>Dr Lauren Smith\/East Grampian Coastal Partnership<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/1764634456_186_grey-placeholder.png\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 gUePlo hide-when-no-script\" aria-label=\"image unavailable\"\/><img decoding=\"async\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/60100f20-cf94-11f0-b259-a9faa8642480.jpg.webp.webp\" loading=\"lazy\" alt=\"Dr Lauren Smith\/East Grampian Coastal Partnership A close up of one of the arms showing the suckers. They are squidgy round shapes. The purple-coloured arm is covered in sand.\" class=\"sc-5340b511-0 hLdNfA\"\/>Dr Lauren Smith\/East Grampian Coastal Partnership<\/p>\n<p>Dr Lauren Smith said the discovery at Forvie NNR was &#8220;incredibly rare&#8221; and samples have been taken for further study.<\/p>\n<p>The arms have rows of suckers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Dr Lauren Smith said: &#8220;This is an extraordinary find, to have a deep-water species like Haliphron atlanticus appear here is incredibly rare and offers a valuable opportunity for further study. <\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">&#8220;The recovered remains have been frozen down for further study, with some potentially being preserved as museum specimens.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">She thanked another marine biologist, Dr Steve O&#8217;Shea, for his expert verification of the species.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 eZyhnA\">Dr Smith added: &#8220;The discovery highlights both the scientific value of community wildlife reporting and the enduring mysteries of the deep ocean.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Steven McKenzieBBC Scotland NatureScot The discovery at Forvie in Aberdeenshire left wildlife enthusiasts mystified What appeared to be&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":324079,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26],"tags":[64,63,128,338],"class_list":{"0":"post-324078","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-wildlife","8":"tag-au","9":"tag-australia","10":"tag-science","11":"tag-wildlife"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/324078","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=324078"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/324078\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/324079"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=324078"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=324078"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=324078"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}