{"id":327962,"date":"2025-12-04T20:52:09","date_gmt":"2025-12-04T20:52:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/327962\/"},"modified":"2025-12-04T20:52:09","modified_gmt":"2025-12-04T20:52:09","slug":"palmer-luckey-wants-to-take-war-underground","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/327962\/","title":{"rendered":"Palmer Luckey Wants to Take War Underground"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Most tech billionaires seem to think the future is in space, whether it\u2019s Elon Musk launching classified payloads with SpaceX or OpenAI\u2019s Sam Altman reportedly showing interest in taking a stake in a <a href=\"https:\/\/gizmodo.com\/sam-altman-wants-his-own-rocket-company-2000695680\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">rocket company<\/a>. But Palmer Luckey has gained attention on social media over a counterintuitive answer he gave about the business of war: The Anduril founder thinks the future could be underground, literally.<\/p>\n<p>Luckey was asked at a recent event whether he believed space would become the \u201cdefining domain for 21st century national defense,\u201d and if so, what capabilities the U.S. needed to develop to stay ahead of the curve.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI actually believe that the subterranean domain will be the defining space. But nobody agrees with me, and every time I talk about it, I sound insane to people,\u201d said Luckey.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut I\u2019ll tell you this, there\u2019s a lot more crust than there is air or sea or surface of land. So vehicles that can maneuver through the crust of the earth the same way that submarines move through the water are going to be a huge deal, I think they\u2019re going to define at least the second half of the century.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Luckey was asked whether he was talking about vehicles that can go \u201call the way through the Earth.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s no reason to go all the way through the Earth,\u201d said Luckey. \u201cBut the benefits you get from submarines are both in terms of signature, but also in ability\u2026 someone can know exactly where a sub is, it doesn\u2019t mean they can get to it and stop it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAll of those benefits are massively, massively compounded when you are in the crust of the Earth. It\u2019s quite easy to drop a depth charge on somebody or to have a torpedo go down and get something. Very, very hard to go get something that is five miles under the surface of the Earth.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Luckey went on to say that he\u2019s been talking about this \u201cfor years\u201d and many people think he\u2019s crazy, but he went on to explain that he\u2019s built \u201cworking prototypes\u201d of this, though he didn\u2019t give any details about what that means. Luckey said that he needs to come up with a better marketing term than \u201csubterranean warfare\u201d to sell it.<\/p>\n<p>Palmer\u2019s comments were clipped on X, prompting many people to question the wisdom of focusing on the underground domain. Palmer himself even joked about the discussion by retweeting a Breaking Bad meme.<\/p>\n<p lang=\"zxx\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/6Bbm0o6ArZ\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/t.co\/6Bbm0o6ArZ<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/T2PwIZS0c7\" rel=\"nofollow\">pic.twitter.com\/T2PwIZS0c7<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 John Ridge \ud83c\uddfa\ud83c\uddf8 \ud83c\uddfa\ud83c\udde6 \ud83c\uddf9\ud83c\uddfc (@John_A_Ridge) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/John_A_Ridge\/status\/1996316411124134205?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">December 3, 2025<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The exchange actually happened in early October at the Internet Marketing Association\u2019s IMPACT 25 conference, but it was posted in full for the first time on <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/fHLiA76hVps\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">YouTube<\/a> on Wednesday.<\/p>\n<p>It may seem silly to proclaim that the future of war is underground. But at least some people who spend time thinking about this stuff clearly take it seriously. DARPA hosted a Subterranean Challenge in late 2021 that focused on figuring out how to navigate robots below the surface of the Earth. And Israel, a longtime military ally of the U.S., has spent more than two years now fixated on how to fight tunnels in Gaza.<\/p>\n<p>Much of the discussion at IMPACT 25 involved complaints by both Luckey and the moderator about how various media outlets were unfair in some way. But Luckey also bragged about hitting back at outlets he didn\u2019t like, proudly calling himself a \u201cpropagandist\u201d and celebrating Peter Thiel\u2019s lawsuit against Gawker which caused the site to be forced into bankruptcy.<\/p>\n<p>Luckey, who has previously talked about originally going to college with a desire to become a journalist, often takes issue with how he and his companies have been portrayed in the media. An article from the Wall Street Journal recently detailed some <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/business\/anduril-industries-defense-tech-problems-52b90cae\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">tech failures<\/a> during the testing of Anduril drones.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe WSJ obviously set out to write a Watergate-style \u2018expose\u2019 of Anduril, wasting months of resources trying to find anything that might fit. Why? In the end, all they could do was twist the incredible work of our 200 test engineers as the reason for our failure (???),\u201d Luckey <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/PalmerLuckey\/status\/1994257070887969040\" rel=\"nofollow\">wrote on X<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Why did this discussion about going underground only get published this week? It likely has to do with the planned media rollout of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anduril.com\/news\/anduril-s-eagleeye-puts-mission-command-and-ai-directly-into-the-warfighter-s-helmet\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">EagleEye headset<\/a>. Luckey even warned people in the audience in October not to take any pictures of the device. Luckey hadn\u2019t yet shown off the device publicly, something he would do later in a big media blitz that included <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/-9LFj6YOK2U\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Joe Rogan<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Time will tell just how serious Luckey is about expanding his business underground. But it\u2019s not like he\u2019s the only billionaire dabbling in the field. Elon Musk started The Boring Company to tunnel underground with the mission of moving high-speed transportation, not war vehicles, below the surface. And much like many of Musk\u2019s ideas, it\u2019s one that\u2019s firmly rooted in both 20th-century science fiction and more <a href=\"https:\/\/paleofuture.com\/blog\/2013\/7\/19\/why-the-biggest-obstacle-for-elon-musks-hyperloop-might-be-tunnels\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">earnest futuristic predictions<\/a> of the era. The problem is that he hasn\u2019t really delivered on what he promised. That, too, is common for futuristic ideas from the 20th century, unfortunately.<\/p>\n<p>The predictions that humanity should probably avoid are all those that imagined we\u2019d be living underground <a href=\"https:\/\/paleofuture.com\/blog\/2008\/1\/8\/will-war-drive-civilization-underground-1942.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">out of necessity<\/a> after some terrible calamity on the surface.<\/p>\n<p>      <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Most tech billionaires seem to think the future is in space, whether it\u2019s Elon Musk launching classified payloads&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":327963,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[32162,64,63,89754,128,285],"class_list":{"0":"post-327962","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-space","8":"tag-anduril","9":"tag-au","10":"tag-australia","11":"tag-palmer-luckey","12":"tag-science","13":"tag-space"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/327962","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=327962"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/327962\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/327963"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=327962"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=327962"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=327962"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}