{"id":329966,"date":"2025-12-05T18:51:07","date_gmt":"2025-12-05T18:51:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/329966\/"},"modified":"2025-12-05T18:51:07","modified_gmt":"2025-12-05T18:51:07","slug":"turners-mothers-frustration-and-a-memorable-brush-with-bacon-jmw-turner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/329966\/","title":{"rendered":"Turner\u2019s mother\u2019s frustration and a memorable brush with Bacon | JMW Turner"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">My answer to the pertinent question put by Helen James in her letter (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/artanddesign\/2025\/nov\/28\/was-jmw-turners-mother-really-mentally-ill\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Was JMW Turner\u2019s mother really \u2018mentally ill\u2019?, 27 November<\/a>) is that whatever illness Mary may have had would have been greatly increased by the frustration that she must have felt with her circumstances in the mean lodging in Covent Garden, which her husband lacked the ambition to better. These contrasted with the comfortable Islington home in which she grew up and with the even more prosperous circumstances of her relations. I have discussed those in the Genealogists\u2019 Magazine, the British Art Journal and now in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Birthdays-J-M-W-Turner-Prince-Richmond\/dp\/B0FNKFKC93\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">my publication<\/a> for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tate.org.uk\/art\/turner-250\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Turner 250<\/a>: Happy Birthdays! JMW Turner and Prince George on Richmond Hill. Since I wrote the last, a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/brentfordtoday\/posts\/2003996410362111\/\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">plaque was erected<\/a> on the site of the house of the uncle of Turner in Brentford, where he was sent to escape the bedlam at home and where, like Beethoven at a similar age at Bonn, he acquired lifelong cultured friends.<br \/>Dr Selby Whittingham<br \/>Secretary, the Independent Turner\u00a0Society <\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"> Regarding artistic rivalries, including that between JMW Turner and John Constable (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/artanddesign\/2025\/nov\/28\/turner-v-constable-tate-britain-exhibition-invokes-long-history-of-artistic-rivalries\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">28 November<\/a>), in 1969 I met Francis Bacon at a health hydro in Surrey. He claimed to have been sent by his agent to dry out. His unaffected friendliness overcame my awe at encountering the great painter. In my first Mini, I drove him to see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationaltrust.org.uk\/visit\/sussex\/petworth\/jwm-turner-at-petworth-house-and-park\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the Turners at Petworth House<\/a>, where there happened to be a William Blake exhibition as well. He was dismissive of Blake as an artist, preferring the poetry. But the surprise was his little concern for the Petworth Turners, which he hadn\u2019t seen before. I prefer Constable, he said. The following day he felt obliged to go to Guildford (by himself) for a glass of burgundy.<br \/>Paul Collins<br \/>Horton cum Studley, Oxfordshire<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"> It\u2019s refreshing to read that Constable\u2019s work is worth more than chocolate box decoration. It\u2019s worth studying his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalgalleries.org\/art-and-artists\/4766\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Dedham Vale at the National Galleries of Scotland<\/a>. A fine landscape, but concealed in the rocks below a towering tree a very small and wretched hut and an old lady in red cradling a baby. Countryside misery and poverty in\u00a0the age of the Enclosure Acts.<br \/>Martin Argles<br \/>London<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"> Following previous concerns about Jonathan Jones\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/artanddesign\/2025\/jul\/17\/angelus-millet-life-on-the-land-national-gallery-london-modern-art\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Freudian interpretations of Millet<\/a>, it\u2019s a joy to be able to celebrate his recent superb pieces on Caravaggio (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/artanddesign\/2025\/nov\/24\/caravaggio-victorious-cupid-model-muse-wallace-collection\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">24 November<\/a>), and on Constable and Turner.<br \/>John Caperon<br \/>Crowborough, East Sussex<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"> Have an opinion on anything you\u2019ve read in the Guardian today? Please <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/artanddesign\/2025\/dec\/05\/mailto:guardian.letters@theguardian.com?body=Please%20include%20your%20name,%20full%20postal%20address%20and%20phone%20number%20with%20your%20letter%20below.%20Letters%20are%20usually%20published%20with%20the%20author%27s%20name%20and%20city\/town\/village.%20The%20rest%20of%20the%20information%20is%20for%20verification%20only%20and%20to%20contact%20you%20where%20necessary.\" data-link-name=\"in body link \" https:=\"\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">email<\/a> us your letter and it will be considered for publication in our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/tone\/letters\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">letters<\/a> section.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"My answer to the pertinent question put by Helen James in her letter (Was JMW Turner\u2019s mother really&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":329967,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[31],"tags":[449,458,459,64,63,460,134],"class_list":{"0":"post-329966","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-arts-and-design","8":"tag-arts","9":"tag-arts-and-design","10":"tag-artsanddesign","11":"tag-au","12":"tag-australia","13":"tag-design","14":"tag-entertainment"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/329966","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=329966"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/329966\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/329967"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=329966"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=329966"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=329966"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}