{"id":332284,"date":"2025-12-07T07:16:12","date_gmt":"2025-12-07T07:16:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/332284\/"},"modified":"2025-12-07T07:16:12","modified_gmt":"2025-12-07T07:16:12","slug":"whats-my-life-like-away-from-rugby-chaos-red-rose-superstar-ellie-kildunne-on-confidence-cowboy-dances-and-why-its-cool-to-be-different-england-womens-rugby-u","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/332284\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018What\u2019s my life like away from rugby? Chaos\u2019: Red Rose superstar Ellie Kildunne on confidence, cowboy dances and why it\u2019s cool to be different | England women’s rugby union team"},"content":{"rendered":"

Ellie Kildunne says it\u2019s not quite sunk in yet. A couple of months on from winning the Rugby Union World Cup<\/a> with her England teammates, she\u2019s still on a high. I ask if she slept with her winner\u2019s medal by her bed the night they won. \u201cThat night?\u201d She gives me a look. \u201cIt\u2019s still by my bed. Every day. I wake up and the medal\u2019s next to my bed. And it\u2019s, like, as if!\u201d<\/p>\n

But Kildunne is not resting on her laurels. She says the medal is also a reminder of what\u2019s left to achieve \u2013 for her, and for women\u2019s rugby in general. \u201cYour heart\u2019s telling you that you\u2019ve done it, but I need to refocus. So\u00a0it\u2019s about how can we win the prem, how can we win another Six Nations, more World Cups? How can we keep fans coming to games? We\u2019ve sold out Twickenham, so how do we do it again?\u201d<\/p>\n

Kildunne is a freak, as she tells me time and again. First of all, there\u2019s the way she plays the game. Rugby is a team sport involving strict discipline and complex rules. But Kildunne, a full-back, plays largely on instinct and is impossible to predict. She has phenomenal speed and stamina (an unusual combination), exceptional grace and strength, pops up anywhere on the pitch, and could out-sidestep Fred Astaire. In 2024, she was named World Rugby women\u2019s 15s player of the year<\/a> \u2013 the greatest individual honour in the game.<\/p>\n

In September\u2019s World Cup final against Canada, she scored a try that reminds me of Diego Maradona\u2019s legendary goal for Argentina against England in 1986 (widely regarded as football\u2019s greatest World Cup goal ever). Kildunne caught the ball on the left flank about 30 yards from Canada\u2019s try line, she ran through two players, sprinted past a third, swerved past a fourth, then a fifth, raced past a sixth and seventh before planting the ball down in the middle of the goal. Genius.<\/p>\n

One of the great sights of the World Cup was seeing Kildunne and her fellow England teammates Meg Jones and Jess Breach celebrate scoring with the cowboy dance \u2013 one hand on the hip, the other throwing imaginary lassos above their heads, while bobbing side to side on their imaginary horses. Joyous.<\/p>\n

I just thought it was weird that other girls didn\u2019t play, because I knew how much I enjoyed itPhotograph: Alex Ingram\/The Guardian. Cardigan: Adidas<\/a>. Joggers: Gymshark<\/a>. Trainers: New Balance from Schuh<\/a>. Earrings: Missoma<\/a><\/p>\n

Kildunne scored another audacious try in the semi-final a week before, crossing the entire pitch as she swerved past player after player. She admits this try gave her an extra buzz because it came after a spat with the opposition. \u201cJust before, I\u2019d given one of the French girls a bit of chat, told her to shush \u2013 it got out on camera.\u201d Does she often sledge the opposition? \u201cI try not to, but the French woman pushed me and another one of the girls in the back. I\u2019ve done it before, when I\u00a0scored a try and a girl was getting in my ear. Before I\u00a0put the ball down, I waved at her. That caused a bit of havoc as well.\u201d Do her opponents think she\u2019s arrogant? \u201cI\u2019m sure people do, but I\u2019m not big-headed.\u201d<\/p>\n

We meet in Guildford, Surrey, at the training ground of Harlequins, her club team. Her self-belief is obvious from the off. She\u2019s a supreme athlete, and she knows it. But there\u2019s more. She\u2019s also a brand expert \u2013 the brand in question being Ellie Kildunne. To be fair, she is a\u00a0hugely marketable asset \u2013 brilliant, good fun, eloquent and thoroughly eccentric. Ask her to describe herself, and she does so in one word: chaos.<\/p>\n

One of the unusual things about Kildunne is that both she and her younger brother Sam play rugby (he is a winger for Ampthill club and has played for England rugby sevens) despite coming from a non-rugby household. She grew up in a remote farmhouse in West Yorkshire, but there were families with kids on either side, so she played football with the boys from an early age. Kildunne is a Liverpool fan, and she adored Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres. One day, she was playing outside with her neighbours and they were called in because they had to go to rugby training. If they were doing rugby, Kildunne reasoned, why shouldn\u2019t she? And that\u2019s how it all started. As\u00a0with football, she was the only girl on a boys\u2019 team. Did she feel weird? \u201cI didn\u2019t think about it, because it was my normal. I just thought it was weird that other girls didn\u2019t play, because I knew how much I enjoyed it. I knew I\u00a0was different. And I\u00a0don\u2019t think that\u2019s a bad feeling. It\u2019s cool to be different.\u201d<\/p>\n

Photographs: Alex Ingram\/The Guardian. Tracksuit: Adidas<\/a>. Trenchcoat: T\/Ala<\/a>. Vest: Cos<\/a>. Earrings: Missoma<\/a><\/p>\n

Has she always had that confidence? \u201cYes. I was talking to someone about it the other day. I remember having this thing in my head when people asked me why I played rugby. I must have been 11 at the time, and I said, \u2018If you go to a farmers\u2019 market and there are loads of green apples, but in the middle there\u2019s a red apple, which apple do you think about the most? You think about the red apple. I\u2019m that red apple.\u2019 I\u2019ve always been that red apple. I\u2019m not a sheep.\u201d<\/p>\n

Kildunne, aged 26, says her childhood was idyllic. Her mother (who works in marketing) and her father (who trains sales people) encouraged her and Sam to do whatever they wanted. Their home was so remote they weren\u2019t in a school catchment area, so her parents made sacrifices and educated the children privately. Did her school have great sports facilities? \u201cYeah, but I don\u2019t think that made me what I am today, because private schools are very traditional. I was told to play netball not rugby, and I wiggled my way in by getting my old rugby coach to come in and say, \u2018Give her a chance.\u2019\u201d She was allowed to play in the B team with the boys.<\/p>\n

At school, she was well behaved (not a single detention), academic (all A*s and As in her GCSEs), but still chaos. If she wasn\u2019t forgetting things, she was losing them, whether it was her gum shield or boots for rugby or her planner for work. Her weekends were dedicated to sport \u2013 rugby league Saturday morning, rugby union Saturday afternoon, football Sunday. \u201cI\u00a0played as much sport as I could, for as long as I could.\u201d<\/p>\n

Were she and Sam competitive? \u201cIncredibly. Over everything. We were so close, but we were really competitive. We still are, but it\u2019s a lot more collaborative now. He watches my games and I watch his, and we talk about stuff in the most honest way \u2013 like, \u2018That pass was shit!\u2019\u201d Nice, I say. She laughs. \u201cBut when you get a compliment you know it\u2019s meant.\u201d<\/p>\n

Kildunne began playing rugby league for Keighley Albion and rugby union for Keighley, then moved on to West Park Leeds and Castleford. Kildunne was so single-minded she didn\u2019t even consider that her parents might object when, aged 16, she told them she wanted to leave Yorkshire for Gloucester so she could join the semi-professional women\u2019s rugby club Gloucester-Hartpury. Her parents weren\u2019t happy and, for the first time in her life, they told her no. But she wasn\u2019t going to be deterred. After much talk, and the shedding of many tears, they conceded. Two years later, in autumn 2017, she made her England debut as a substitute against Canada. Of course, she scored a try. And it\u2019s gone on like that ever since. She has played 57 times for England scoring 235 points.<\/p>\n

Kildunne against Canada in 2017 (top), during the Women\u2019s Rugby World Cup final between Canada and England in September (centre) and celebrating their win (above). Photographs: Tom Jenkins\/The Guardian; Naomi Baker\/Getty Images<\/p>\n

I admit to her I know sod all about rugby. She seems delighted. \u201cI love that. That\u2019s cool. I don\u2019t like it when journalists know all about rugby, because they just ask me the rugby questions you can search on Wikipedia, whereas I want people to know Ellie, not Ellie Kildunne the rugby player.\u201d I reckon I\u2019m not the only rugby ignoramus who\u2019s a fan of hers. At the World Cup she made a splash, not just with the brio and audacity of her play, but with her cascade of corkscrew curls, big grin (few people smile as they\u2019re playing any sport, let alone rugby) and, of course, the cowboy dance.<\/p>\n

Where does the dance come from? \u201cMe and Meg. Nobody knows this part of the story. We went on holiday with a few of the girls to Zante [also known as Zakynthos] a few years ago, just before Covid, and we had quad bikes. And we were, like, should we just be cowboys? Go and eat doughnuts and stuff. We were just being silly, like jumping off walls into the pool. Then when Meg came back into the Red Roses, we were in New Zealand [for the 2021 World Cup, which took place in 2022 due to Covid] and a\u00a0bit bored on this day off, and there were scooters, and\u00a0we were, like \u2026 should we play cowboys?\u201d So what does it mean to be a cowboy? \u201cHave fun!\u201d<\/p>\n

Do you have to be hard to play rugby? \u201cIt depends what position you play, but you\u2019ve got to be pretty hard. The biggest thing is mentally you\u2019ve got to be tough. I\u2019m not going to be running into people. My job is to avoid people.\u201d You still get whacked though, don\u2019t you? \u201cYou do. People want to hit you. There are times when I question why the hell am I doing this?\u201d Really? \u201cWell, when it\u2019s raining outside, and someone\u2019s just stood on my hand, my toes are freezing and I\u2019m running into someone who\u2019s tackling me \u2013 you do think, why do I do this?\u201d She stops, and smiles. But I never think I don\u2019t want to do this. I wouldn\u2019t do anything else for the world.\u201d<\/p>\n

What\u2019s the worst injury she\u2019s suffered? \u201cAch, I\u00a0haven\u2019t had major injuries,\u201d she says dismissively. \u201cI\u2019ve broken my hand, torn my hamstring, torn my calf, had shoulder\u00a0surgery. They\u2019re not too bad, touch wood, but it\u2019s all part of it.\u201d I wonder what she considers a\u00a0serious injury.<\/p>\n

This is the golden age of women\u2019s sport. What British women have achieved over the past couple of years will shape the next generation<\/p>\n

Kildunne is not built like a prop forward (rugby\u2019s classic brick shithouse \u2013 think Joe Marler, as seen in Celebrity Traitors). But look at some of the photos of her on Instagram and you can see just how defined she is \u2013 six-pack, washboard stomach, ripped biceps. She says she was reluctant to muscle up in the early days. It simply wasn\u2019t her idea of womanhood. \u201cI remember being at school and everyone wanted to be a Hollister model \u2013 tiny runway models \u2013 and everyone wanted the thigh gap. I didn\u2019t want to put on loads of muscle mass because I was young and impressionable, and you see what you see on social media.\u201d But Kildunne came to understand her lack of strength was holding her back. \u201cI\u00a0got a stress fracture in my knee because I\u00a0wasn\u2019t strong enough. So I realised I needed to knuckle down and get stronger and more robust. I had to flick a\u00a0switch and learn to enjoy the gym; enjoy being strong.\u201d And\u00a0she does now.<\/p>\n

Thankfully, she says, the Hollister ideal is changing. Kildunne points out that the more there are visible, successful women in sports such as rugby, bodybuilding\u00a0and weightlifting, the greater the variety of role models for girls and young women. \u201cNow there are so many women of different sizes and with muscles, and they\u2019re prepared to show them off\u00a0on\u00a0their\u00a0personal Instagrams. So, where it used to be\u00a0the tiny, slight women on magazine covers, now you\u2019ve got people like Ilona\u00a0Maher, the American rugby player, who is a superstar and incredibly strong. Now, the younger generation has Ellie Kildunne to look up to.\u201d For\u00a0a\u00a0second, I assume she\u2019s talking about somebody else. But I soon discover she often talks about herself in the third person.<\/p>\n

\u201cI\u2019m proud of my body. My body is what\u2019s made me an Olympian and a world champion. I\u2019ve got muscles on my arms and shoulders when I\u2019m wearing a dress and I\u2019ve got strong legs. I do have a bit of tone on my tummy. And all this helps make me a good rugby player, and keeps me on the pitch.\u201d<\/p>\n

Even when she started playing rugby for Gloucester-Hartpury, she didn\u2019t really believe she could make a\u00a0career of it. The ticket sales and salaries still fall far short of the elite men\u2019s game, which, in turn, falls far short of elite football. A couple of years ago, Kildunne said top-ranked British players, such as herself, made \u00a340,000-\u00a350,000 a year from the game. She wasn\u2019t talking about a salary; that was a combination of club wages, fees for playing international matches and the few advertising\/marketing opportunities that existed. And even this would have been unimaginable a few years ago.<\/p>\n

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What about now? \u201cIt\u2019s way better than what it was then. I think it\u2019s against my contract to say what I\u2019m on, but you get your England salary, which was upped just before the World Cup, your Quins salary, your PWR (Premiership Women\u2019s Rugby) salary, and then your commercial brands. We\u2019ve gone from doing free appearances to signing deals with brands. It\u2019s\u00a0a\u00a0nightmare for mortgages, because we get paid in all these different formats.\u201d<\/p>\n

But, she says, it\u2019s about so much more than the money. Kildunne has often said it\u2019s easy to have great\u00a0moments in sport, but she wants to be part of something bigger, something more significant. She is determined to be in the vanguard of a movement revolutionising women\u2019s sport. And she\u2019s convinced that this is finally happening.<\/p>\n

The Red Roses have won the World Cup twice before this year (1994 and 2014), but women\u2019s rugby was smaller then. \u201cThis is the golden age of women\u2019s sport. I truly believe that. It\u2019s not just what the Red Roses have achieved, but what British women have achieved in general in sport over the past couple of years is going to shape the future for the next generation.\u201d<\/p>\n

Kildunne says the Lionesses led the way by winning football\u2019s Euros in 2022. Back then, she was invited as a guest to the Sports Personality of the Year ceremony (Spoty), and she couldn\u2019t believe it when England women\u2019s football captain Leah Williamson knew who she was. For all that self-assurance, she still didn\u2019t expect anyone to recognise her, let alone fete her. When a fan asked for a selfie at a match a few years ago, she thought she was being asked to take the fan\u2019s photo, which she did. The fan had to explain that she wanted Kildunne in the frame.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m not the player who\u2019ll do ice baths, eat fish and a rice cake every night and wake up at 5am to do my stretchesPhotograph: Alex Ingram\/The Guardian<\/p>\n

How times have changed. Now, she\u2019s expected to be on the shortlist for this year\u2019s Spoty and she gets stopped regularly. But it still surprises her. \u201cI was in the petrol station the other day and a policeman tapped me on the back, and I was, like, \u2018I\u2019ve done nothing wrong, officer.\u2019 And he said, \u2018You\u2019re Ellie Kildunne, aren\u2019t you? I just want to say congratulations.\u2019 I said, \u2018God, I thought you were going to take me away and lock me up.\u2019 I thought, that\u2019s crazy \u2013 you know who I am, and you\u2019re inspired by what we\u2019ve achieved.\u201d<\/p>\n

A while ago, Kildunne\u2019s boyfriend, a businessman called Cameron Sommerville-Bailey, said he cleaned her boots for her because \u201cyou can\u2019t expect the world\u2019s best player to clean her own\u201d. Sommerville-Bailey used to feature regularly in her social media, but has been absent recently. Are they still together? \u201cNo. We\u00a0split just before the Six Nations. It was very amicable. We\u00a0lived together for four-five years. I still love him to pieces, but it was the best for where we are. I couldn\u2019t have asked for someone better, right down to washing my boots. It was his love language!\u201d Is there a new boot cleaner on the scene? \u201cNo, there is not.\u201d She says she doesn\u2019t have much time to think about her love life at the moment. There is so much going on \u2013 the rugby, a\u00a0podcast series, loads of promotional work.<\/p>\n

What\u2019s her life like away from rugby? \u201cChaos,\u201d she says instantly. In what way? Well, she says, she lives her life the way she plays her rugby: nobody can predict what she\u2019ll do next. She can\u2019t keep still, she has to keep moving, and she has endless micro-obsessions that come and go. \u201cI got diagnosed with ADHD last year, which was really good for my understanding of why I\u00a0can be fine with the way my life is, but when I explain it to someone else, it blows their mind.\u201d<\/p>\n

What does she mean? \u201cI\u2019ll go to bed and I can\u2019t go to sleep, because I\u2019m thinking I want to change my room around and I can see what it looks like in my head. So I\u00a0have to get up and do it. Then I got a huge canvas, and I was in bed and I couldn\u2019t stop thinking about painting it, so I had to get up and paint it through the night.\u201d<\/p>\n

Then there\u2019s her thing with music. \u201cI wanted to learn how to play a song on guitar. And, again, I couldn\u2019t go to sleep because I\u2019m thinking about this God-damned guitar. So I bought two guitars. I painted one of them because I thought it would be cool as a canvas. It looks rubbish. And the other one I bought so I could play this song on it.\u201d Can she play the guitar? \u201cNo!\u201d That\u2019s the point, she says. That\u2019s the chaos. \u201cThen I got a keyboard because I heard a song and decided I wanted to learn how to do that on the keyboard.\u201d Can she play the keyboard? \u201cNo!\u201d she says. \u201cI couldn\u2019t learn it in a day. I spent the whole day trying. Did not move from that seat.\u201d She\u2019s also got a drum kit in her garage. Can she play that? \u201cNo. No!\u201d<\/p>\n

Then there\u2019s her main obsession: photography. She\u2019s actually pretty good, she says. She still likes to turn up to events with a camera round her neck, so\u00a0people think she\u2019s the official photographer. It\u00a0makes it easier to mix with people, she says. They ask her to take a\u00a0photo of them, she obliges and it\u2019s an icebreaker. \u201cThere are cameras all over my house. I love cameras.\u201d How many? \u201cWell, professional cameras, I\u2019ve probably got four. Then I\u2019ve got two different vlog cameras and a couple of digital cameras. That\u2019s my switch-off; when I\u2019m at rugby, I\u2019m so focused on rugby.\u201d<\/p>\n

I\u00a0don\u2019t see this World Cup as the pinnacle of our careers. We\u2019ve got the ball rolling, and it will take us into places we\u2019ve\u00a0never been beforePhotograph: Alex Ingram\/The Guardian. Styling: Bemi Shaw. Hair and makeup: Alice Theobald at Arlington Artists using Rhug Wild Beauty and Huda. Jumper: Adanola<\/a>. Roll neck: Uniqlo<\/a>. Shorts: Zara<\/a>. Trainers: Onitsuka Tiger<\/a>. Socks: Marks and Spence<\/a>r. Earrings: Missoma<\/a><\/p>\n

And finally, there\u2019s her penchant for DIY tattoos. \u201cI\u00a0just randomly bought a tattoo gun off Amazon. Who does that? Well, I do.\u201d How much did it cost? \u201c\u00a330.\u201d She shows me a dot on her finger. \u201cThat represents my\u00a0brother.\u201d And two dots on another finger. \u201cThat\u2019s my mum and dad.\u201d To be honest, as tattoos go, they\u2019re rubbish. Then there\u2019s the tattoo on her leg. \u201cI tattooed myself on my ankle, but it was shit.\u201d She corrects herself. \u201cIt is shit. It\u2019s meant to be a heart.\u201d But she\u2019s not letting a lack of talent hold her back. \u201cI\u2019ve tattooed a few of the Red Roses and a few of the GB sevens girls. My most recent one was John Mitchell, our head coach. I did him after the World Cup. His first-ever tattoo, and if you know Mitch, he\u2019s a bit of a hard nut. Everyone was like, \u2018You gave him a tattoo? As if!\u2019 And I was, like, \u2018Yeah, I did.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n

I\u2019m getting exhausted just listening to all her activities. Does she drive herself mad? \u201cAll the time. But I drive myself mad when I\u2019ve got nothing on. I know I need to calm down. My mum and dad say to me, \u2018Just calm down, don\u2019t be on your phone, don\u2019t be thinking about the next thing, project, idea, just relax.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n

But she thinks her inability to sit still is also what makes her a great sportswoman. Whatever she turns her attention to \u2013 painting, photography, tattooing or rugby \u2013 her focus is absolute. The only difference is that when it comes to rugby, she\u2019s a world-beater. She spends lots of\u00a0her spare time watching videos of rivals and teammates playing, studying their every physical move and mental reaction. \u201cI hyper-focus on how quickly can this person in my own team catch the ball then pass it, and I watch it over and over again so I know how to time my run. Before a match, I\u2019m, like, \u2018OK, what does this woman do? She steps off her right foot about 70% of the time, left foot 30%. What\u2019s her mental state? Does she lose her head easily? How can I\u00a0get into that, without being an arsehole?\u2019 I think about all those things.\u201d<\/p>\n

You really are a freak, I say. She grins. \u201cI am. It makes me the player I am. I\u2019m not the player who\u2019ll do ice baths, who\u2019ll eat fish and a rice cake every night, and wake up at 5am and do my stretches. That type of stuff doesn\u2019t bother me. But I put in so much work that people don\u2019t see. John always says I\u2019m a freak. We do a 1,200m test and I smash everyone at that. No one gets near me, but I\u2019m also the fastest. Normally, sprinters are not very good at the 1,200m. I\u2019m good at both, so he says I\u2019m\u00a0a\u00a0freak of nature. I take it as a positive.\u201d<\/p>\n

Kildunne\u2019s late for training, so she has to leave. As\u00a0she heads off, she reminds me that this is just the start \u2013 for her, for her fellow Red Roses and for women\u2019s sport. \u201cI\u00a0don\u2019t see this World Cup as the pinnacle of our careers. We\u2019ve got the ball rolling, and it will take us into places we\u2019ve\u00a0never been before.\u201d She\u2019s got so much\u00a0ahead of her, she says. \u201cI am a very optimistic person. I never want to be at the peak of my career. I\u00a0just want to keep on going and going, till I can\u2019t walk\u00a0any\u00a0more.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Ellie Kildunne says it\u2019s not quite sunk in yet. A couple of months on from winning the Rugby…\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":332285,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[567],"tags":[64,63,760,85],"class_list":{"0":"post-332284","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-rugby","8":"tag-au","9":"tag-australia","10":"tag-rugby","11":"tag-sports"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332284","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=332284"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332284\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/332285"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=332284"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=332284"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=332284"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}