{"id":346036,"date":"2025-12-13T20:16:06","date_gmt":"2025-12-13T20:16:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/346036\/"},"modified":"2025-12-13T20:16:06","modified_gmt":"2025-12-13T20:16:06","slug":"from-bosnia-to-brisbane-what-child-refugee-jasmina-joldic-learned-about-peace-hate-and-the-fragility-of-society-australian-politics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/346036\/","title":{"rendered":"From Bosnia to Brisbane: what child refugee Jasmina Joldi\u0107 learned about peace, hate and the fragility of society | Australian politics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Jasmina Joldi\u0107 was nine when she found out she was born into a religion.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Her mother, Selma, was trying to explain to little Jasmina and her older sister, Amela, why their father had been taken away by armed men.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI didn\u2019t know who I was, or what I was, until the war started,\u201d Joldi\u0107 says of the labels that would \u2013 she realised in an instant on that day her Tata was taken away \u2013 put a violent end to an idyllic childhood.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Until that moment, Enver and Selma Joldi\u0107 had been shielding their two young daughters from a state and society that was collapsing around them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cWe knew that things weren\u2019t right when Dad was taken to a concentration camp and Mum couldn\u2019t explain to us what that was,\u201d Joldi\u0107 says. \u201cAnd where he was.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Imagine, Joldi\u0107 says, being nine and hearing that \u201cthey\u201d have taken your father away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cThey are your neighbours,\u201d she says. \u201cThey have come in with guns to take him away. And you don\u2019t know where he is. And you don\u2019t know when he will be back.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Then, for the first time in your life, the conversation goes deeper. You start to talk about religion, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cYou\u2019re trying to grapple with big terms,\u201d she says. \u201cAnd big ideas.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Joldi\u0107 learns that she was born, though not raised, Muslim.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Her mother tells her: \u201cYou know, twice a year, we go to lunch at our grandparents\u2019 place where our family gathers?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cAnd it\u2019s like: \u2018oh that\u2019s religion?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I know where that leads \u2013 it can destroy a society,\u2019 says Jasmina Joldi\u0107 of Australia\u2019s escalating anti-immigrant rhetoric. Photograph: David Kelly\/The Guardian<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Joldi\u0107 was born a citizen of Yugoslavia. It is July 1992 and the Balkan socialist federation is crumbling. A three-way conflict has erupted in Bosnia between Orthodox Serbs, Muslim Bosniaks and Catholic Croats. Life for the Joldi\u0107 family, as for hundreds of thousands more, would be irrevocably upended.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The events of that day 33 years ago forced the Joldi\u0107s upon a path, beset by trauma and triumph, that would see them flee their homeland and eventually put down roots in Brisbane\u2019s southern suburbs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">It was a journey that made Joldi\u0107, now 43, more determined to achieve. After a distinguished career in the public service, she rose to become the director general of Queensland\u2019s department of justice and attorney general. When the new LNP government put the broom through William Street a year later, Joldi\u0107 was among those swept out. She is now the higher education deputy secretary in the federal government, and knows a thing or two about the machinations of government. As she listens to escalating anti-immigrant rhetoric \u2013 both in Australia and globally \u2013 the \u201cdemonising\u201d of the other \u2013 Joldi\u0107 is gripped by what she says as \u201calmost PTSD\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cThat can escalate really quickly,\u201d she says. \u201cI know where that leads \u2013 it can destroy a society.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The peace agreement to end the Bosnian war \u2013 brokered in Dayton, USA \u2013 was signed in Paris on 14 December 1995, almost 30 years ago to the day that Joldi\u0107 sits on the timber veranda of a cafe in Tarragindi, Brisbane.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">So much has changed over those intervening three decades for Joldi\u0107 \u2013 including her perspective of those Dayton Accords.<\/p>\n<p> Dayton split the nation in two: Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska, or the Serb Republic<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Thrashed out in an air force base in Ohio by the leaders of Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia during Bill Clinton\u2019s administration, Dayton split the nation in two: Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska, or the Serb Republic.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The result was what some scholars call <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/the-dayton-peace-accords-at-30-an-ugly-peace-that-has-prevented-a-return-to-war-over-bosnia-268424#:~:text=Ethnic%20cleansing%20and%20war%20crimes%20marked%20the,force%20was%20deployed%20to%20secure%20the%20peace.\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201can ugly peace\u201d<\/a> \u2013 a complicated patchwork of ethnic blocs stitched together in a complex power-sharing agreement held in check by each side\u2019s power of veto.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">From her perch on the deck of the cafe where she is more than a customer \u2013 the Turkish owner\u2019s daughter plays soccer with her niece \u2013 Joldi\u0107 looks out and sees a Sikh family taking a dog for a walk through the park. Two young girls squeal as they ride scooters down the concrete embankment of an ephemeral creek. Kookaburras cackle from their perch in black and towering ironbark. A man mows his lawn. She says there is a German word for the relationship to this place she learned from her years as a child refugee in Berlin \u2013 Stammkundin. It means \u201ca regular\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cAs Bosnians,\u201d she says, \u201cWe\u2019ve always been quite sceptical about what Dayton has done to our country.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cThat scepticism arose from the fact that agreement froze us in time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cFor me, I think when Gaza happened and when Ukraine happened, I started to shift my views and think: well at least it stopped the war.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cIt stopped the killing. It stopped the bloodshed on the Balkans.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">So much blood was shed in the Bosnian war it introduced a chilling euphemism to the English language, a translation of the Serbo-Croatian phrase \u201cetnicko ciscenje\u201d \u2013 ethnic cleansing.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018When Gaza happened and when Ukraine happened, I started to shift my views and think: well at least it stopped the war,\u2019 Jasmina Joldi\u0107 says of the Dayton Accords. Photograph: David Kelly\/The Guardian<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">At Srebrenica, 30 years ago, more than 8,000 Muslim men were detained and executed by the forces of Republika Srpska. The world watched the first legally recognised genocide in Europe since second world war in horror.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Joldi\u0107 watched in a one-bedroom apartment for refugees in Berlin when those indelible images of Bosnian Serb forces advancing upon the besieged city came through the TV. She can still picture the scene. Her father, wearing purple tracksuit pants and a singlet \u2013 \u201cthe central heating was really hot\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI remember absolutely everything,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI vividly remember Dad saying: \u2018oh my God Selma, they are gonna kill them. They are going to absolutely slaughter them.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">***<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">On the other side of the Brisbane river in New Farm, where the poncianas are exploding with in blooms of red, Ian Kemish also vividly recalls the Balkans of the mid 1990s. He and Joldi\u0107 have struck up a friendship as both try to make sense of the legacy Srebrenica and Dayton, which they experienced from very different perspectives, 30 years ago.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Back then Kemish was a 30-something mid-level Australian diplomat. He remembers the flight from Zagreb to Sarajevo, strapped into the fuselage of a big Ukrainian Antonov. Donning a flak jacket and helmet. Driving through \u201csniper alley\u201d, from airport to capital, the driver positioning the car between trucks \u2013 \u201cjust in case\u201d. Sarajevo besieged by Serbian secessionists. Its people, so well dressed and groomed amid the chaos and ruins.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">There was a ceasefire at the time but, nonetheless, \u201cone heard shooting in the distance pretty much constantly\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>While ending the killing is the imperative, the political solution can be elusiveIan Kemish<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cSarajevo was a sombre place,\u201d he recalls. \u201cThe minarets everywhere are really striking. But also, at that time, every bit of spare land either had cabbages growing in it or it had graves in it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Yugoslavia had been famed for its coexistence of religion, Kemish says. Christians, Orthodox and Catholic, Muslims and Jews living and worshipping alongside one another for centuries. Now, a new brand of politician had stoked the fires of ethnic nationalism. Ancient hatreds erupted, Kemish says. Neighbours turned on neighbours.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Dayton, Kemish says, froze the frontiers where they were, left nationalists in power. Tensions remain and continue to flare. The political framework that is the legacy of the accords is \u201cpretty creaky\u201d, the scepticism of it warranted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cWhen I think about various peace agreements, it\u2019s almost always this way,\u201d Kemish says. \u201cWhile ending the killing is the imperative, the political solution can be elusive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">But, like Joldi\u0107, Kemish believes the achievements of Dayton have only become more impressive with time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cI keep coming back to one point, which is that, 30 years of peace, in a strict military sense, is a very worthwhile achievement,\u201d he says. \u201cGiven the circumstances in which those agreements were struck\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The retired diplomat and novelist is working on a second book, set after the Bosnian war. It is, he says, about people who carry hidden histories and hidden traumas into peaceful places.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Is it the palm trees or the humidity, Joldi\u0107 wonders?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">She commutes to work in Canberra now \u2013 but there is something in the Brisbane air that tells Joldi\u0107 she is home the moment she steps out of the plane.<\/p>\n<p>Jasmina Joldic: \u2018We came to Australia not speaking the language. It was hot. It was humid. Shops were shutting at 5pm.\u2019 Photograph: David Kelly\/The Guardian<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cWe are typical migrants, it was the only area that we could afford,\u201d she says, explaining her parents\u2019 decision to settle in Rochedale South on Brisbane\u2019s outer southern fringe two decades ago.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cIt was really strange, to be very honest. Imagine this teenage kid growing up in Berlin &#8230; Brisbane about 24 years ago looked very, very different. We came to Australia not speaking the language. It was hot. It was humid. Shops were shutting at 5pm.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Now, her uncle and aunt \u201clive just around the corner\u201d, her sister got married and moved \u201cthree streets away\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cSo we are all in Rochedale South \u2013 proper migrants,\u201d she says. \u201cWe put our roots down, and that\u2019s home. And, gosh, we love that community\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Joldi\u0107\u2019s was one of the families who founded the city of Bijeljina thousands of years ago. It is part of the Serb Republic \u2013 and though she remains connected to and proud of her Bosnian heritage, Joldi\u0107 has cut ties with her ancestral hometown.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">But that is not the story Joldi\u0107 is here to tell today.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Joldi\u0107 wants to demonstrate the contribution migrants make to enriching Australia, culturally and economically. And she is here out of a sense of duty, to make that point, in a time of rising rhetoric around immigration and race.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cWe have a responsibility, as a nation, not to take social cohesion for granted,\u201d she says. \u201cIt can happen quickly and it can escalate and it can escalate horribly wrong. Cohesion is everyone\u2019s responsibility.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">It is a responsibility, Joldi\u0107 says, to protect the peace and prosperity we enjoy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">\u201cAnd, God, how lucky are we?,\u201d Joldi\u0107 says. \u201cHow lucky are we?\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Jasmina Joldi\u0107 was nine when she found out she was born into a religion. 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