{"id":360550,"date":"2025-12-20T14:07:11","date_gmt":"2025-12-20T14:07:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/360550\/"},"modified":"2025-12-20T14:07:11","modified_gmt":"2025-12-20T14:07:11","slug":"finance-minister-nicola-willis-is-looking-for-rock-solid-not-rock-star-economy-in-2026","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/360550\/","title":{"rendered":"Finance Minister Nicola Willis is looking for \u2018rock solid\u2019 not \u2018rock star\u2019 economy in 2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">By taking years to get the books back into surplus, aren\u2019t we vulnerable to the next big external shock \u2013 be it a global financial crisis or natural disaster?<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Willis\u2019 initial response sounds a bit like something former Finance Minister Grant Robertson might have said to me when I asked him similar questions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">It certainly positions her in a more moderate place than many critics on the left believe her to be \u2013 one of the reasons some political commentators saw the debate playing well for her with the public.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">One major trade union even tried to argue (unsuccessfully) that the whole debate was a \u201cfalse flag\u201d operation on the part of the right.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/economy\/nation-of-debt-higher-taxes-deeper-spending-cuts-inevitable-as-economy-suffers-from-long-covid\/SCTSNUPIXZFV7LLVZVOS6K4FQM\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/economy\/nation-of-debt-higher-taxes-deeper-spending-cuts-inevitable-as-economy-suffers-from-long-covid\/SCTSNUPIXZFV7LLVZVOS6K4FQM\/\">New Zealand\u2019s debt position<\/a> is still far more modest relative to the rest of the world,\u201d Willis argues.<\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"Ruth Richardson and the Taxpayers' Union are concerned about New Zealand's long-term economic security.\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>Ruth Richardson and the Taxpayers&#8217; Union are concerned about New Zealand&#8217;s long-term economic security.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe are on a faster track back to surplus than many of the countries we compare ourselves to. You know, Australia isn\u2019t forecasting a surplus at any point in the future,\u201d Willis says. \u201cCanada, the UK, and others are not on anywhere near as fast a track back to balanced books as we are. So in that relative global sense, we are okay placed right now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI continue to believe it\u2019s really important that we get the books back in balance and bend that debt curve down.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThat\u2019s not universally politically agreed, by the way,\u201d she says, adding a reminder that the opposition parties do still present her fiscal approach as severe and conservative.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">We do need buffers for future shocks, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThe tight operating allowances that we\u2019ve had in our Budgets and that we\u2019re forecasting for the future involve real restraint and trade-offs. They are far smaller operating allowances than the previous Government had.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cMy critics on the right are really great at the headline of: we should cut spending. If I could do that tomorrow in a painless way, I\u2019d be 100% there. But actually, trade-offs [are] required.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">More extreme saving would not be good for the economy or New Zealanders \u201cin the short, medium, or long run\u201d, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">By way of example, Willis points to a part of the Taxpayers\u2019 Union manifesto which advocates for the removal of all Working for Families tax credits.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThat would mean that 330,000 low-income New Zealand families with young kids would be, on average, $180 a week worse off,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThe idea of turning around to New Zealand right now and saying, the thing that\u2019s required for our economy is that I slash the incomes of some of our lowest-income parents &#8230; that, to me, is not a sensible course.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Willis says she is always open to ideas for making greater savings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cBut please set out for me what those plans are and what they add up to. You get the people who say: You should be getting rid of the Ministry for Women\u2019s Affairs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThat\u2019s $12 million. Yeah. We\u2019re talking about multibillion-dollar challenges.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cYes, the Government needs to be up for ongoing efficiency, ongoing savings, and we are. But the course that we have projected is one in which there aren\u2019t unnecessary levels of human cruelty.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">On Tuesday, Treasury delivered an<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/economy\/treasury-update-shows-there-is-still-no-surplus-in-sight-for-the-government-as-debt-pile-grows\/UA7S77WVFJFKPIBEXPHZ3ZA26U\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/economy\/treasury-update-shows-there-is-still-no-surplus-in-sight-for-the-government-as-debt-pile-grows\/UA7S77WVFJFKPIBEXPHZ3ZA26U\/\"> ugly update<\/a> to the Crown accounts, full of debt and deficit numbers to bolster fiscally conservative critics.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">On Thursday, Stats NZ released <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/back-in-growth-gdp-data-shows-economy-expanded-by-11-in-third-quarter\/premium\/Z7DUKCW23REZDAXZPSJ5RAQ6C4\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/back-in-growth-gdp-data-shows-economy-expanded-by-11-in-third-quarter\/premium\/Z7DUKCW23REZDAXZPSJ5RAQ6C4\/\">better-than-expected GDP<\/a> growth figures that have been widely celebrated as a sign that the economy is back in recovery.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">How are ordinary New Zealanders supposed to interpret the whipsaw nature of the headlines?<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">The two releases don\u2019t really change the underlying story, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">The GDP relates to the turning of the immediate economic cycle, and the Treasury half-year economic and fiscal update (Hyefu) relates to the structural foundations of the economy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThis week, what we\u2019ve seen is actually efforts to get the foundations in place,\u201d Willis says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cAt the data level, we are starting to see that growth coming through in a pretty broad-based way. You are seeing firms doing the things you want to see them doing for the future, investing in machinery and equipment and plant. You are seeing the construction sector, the manufacturing sector, the job-rich sectors growing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">That bodes well for the future in terms of job opportunities and income opportunities, which is what New Zealanders look to, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThat will be happening in a stable inflation environment, that\u2019s very positive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">When you relate it back to the government books, it means we now have \u201cconditions in which we can execute the path that we\u2019ve laid out\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Confidence, or what the PM famously called New Zealand\u2019s mojo, is coming back, Willis says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">There\u2019s no doubt the business community, and particularly sectors like agriculture and manufacturing, are upbeat going into 2026, but what about younger Kiwis? They have been <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/migration-worst-of-brain-drain-has-passed-but-low-population-growth-still-an-economic-headwind\/premium\/XYODL6YONJA5HI462DHISE2I3E\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/migration-worst-of-brain-drain-has-passed-but-low-population-growth-still-an-economic-headwind\/premium\/XYODL6YONJA5HI462DHISE2I3E\/\">leaving New Zealand<\/a> in record numbers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cOn the Kiwis leaving thing, I really feel that very keenly,\u201d Willis says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Building a country that \u201chas what it takes\u201d to keep young people here was a big part of why she went into Parliament, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe need good government to make sure that people want to stay here, because we are small, and we are at the bottom of the world, and we don\u2019t want this to be a country that talented, hard-working people feel they need to leave in order to live their aspirations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWhat we\u2019ve seen throughout our history is that when our employment market is underperforming relative to Australia, where we go through tough economic times, you do see more people choosing to leave.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cBut it\u2019s also been the case that as our economy recovers, more people choose to stay, which is another reason why the economy really matters.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Willis is optimistic that the trend has shifted. She cites<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/migration-worst-of-brain-drain-has-passed-but-low-population-growth-still-an-economic-headwind\/premium\/XYODL6YONJA5HI462DHISE2I3E\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/migration-worst-of-brain-drain-has-passed-but-low-population-growth-still-an-economic-headwind\/premium\/XYODL6YONJA5HI462DHISE2I3E\/\"> the latest data from Stats NZ.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe are seeing fewer people leaving now, and to me, you know, that is because the economy\u2019s getting better. These two things are related, so we have to stick to that course of making the economy better.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">The economy was supposed to be getting better this time last year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Growth collapsed in the second quarter of this year and undermined confidence in the recovery.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">What does she think happened?<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI think it\u2019s that we were feeling fragile. We\u2019d only had the first beginnings of a recovery that had been very hard fought. We\u2019d come through an extremely difficult period. So it didn\u2019t take much to knock the stuffing out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">She still sees US tariff policy \u2013 and President Donald Trump\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/live-updates-trump-announces-sweeping-tariffs-including-10-on-nz-goods-in-liberation-day-speech\/TMC5Z65R7RB6FE34KG2GVYZABE\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.nzherald.co.nz\/business\/live-updates-trump-announces-sweeping-tariffs-including-10-on-nz-goods-in-liberation-day-speech\/TMC5Z65R7RB6FE34KG2GVYZABE\/\">Liberation Day show<\/a> \u2013 as a big factor in the slump, even though demand for New Zealand exporters has meant the worst fears were never realised.<\/p>\n<p><img  alt=\"Donald Trump's tariffs spooked markets. Photo \/  Patrick Smith\/Getty Images\" class=\"article-media__image responsively-lazy\" data-test-ui=\"article-media__image\"\/>Donald Trump&#8217;s tariffs spooked markets. Photo \/  Patrick Smith\/Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cIt\u2019s always the perceived blow rather than the actual blow,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cObviously, exports have stayed strong, and we have managed the tariffs as an economy really well. But, for a mum and dad looking at the headlines, it was like, what? The New Zealand economy is now going to be hit with massive tariffs and the world\u2019s in flux? Can we really handle this right now?<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cSo I do stand by the view I shared at the time, which is that it had a psychological impact.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">She accepts that addressing some big structural issues may have slowed things down, but says New Zealanders have increasingly understood \u201cat an emotional level\u201d there were bigger issues than just the cyclical recovery.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cNew Zealand has some fundamental underlying economic issues that require being addressed,\u201d she says, taking a line that would presumably land better with the likes of the Taxpayers\u2019 Union.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWhether that\u2019s the fact that in the past, too much of our growth, in my view, has come off the back of us selling houses to each other, rather than really having productive investments happening across the economy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWhether that\u2019s the fact that basic literacy and numeracy skills of our school leavers haven\u2019t been keeping up with the needs of the modern workforce.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWhether that\u2019s the fact that the Resource Management Act has been holding back investment in everything from quarries through to ports.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">These are the issues that people have started to contemplate more closely as they look to the cyclical recovery, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cOur job as a Government, going into next year, is to give people confidence that we can actually fix those problems as a country.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">There are no silver bullets, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cBut we can make progress on them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Looking out to 2026, Willis is, more than anything, looking for a stable economy in which Kiwis feel confident to invest and build wealth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWhat I\u2019m looking for is not a rock star economy, I just want a rock-solid economy,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cI want those foundations to be in place so that we can build on that, and people can have that sense of stability and security.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Her message for Kiwis heading into the holiday break would be to try to see New Zealand the way it is perceived by people internationally.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Channelling the positivity of a hypertheoretical US tech investor, Willis reels off a list of things we take for granted in this country.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cThey say to me, wow, in a world that\u2019s really worried, with conflict on its borders, you are secure at the bottom of the world, surrounded by ocean.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cYou have all of these natural resources (some of which you don\u2019t even use currently, whether it\u2019s rare earth minerals or others).<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cYou have stable institutions. You fundamentally have pretty good social cohesion compared to a lot of other countries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cYou have a Government that\u2019s pro-reform and pro-business. You have some incredible entrepreneurial stories that have emerged from your country, whether it\u2019s Rocket Lab, Xero, Halter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cAnd you have really high activity levels at the small business and entrepreneurial level. You guys have got good stuff!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">For various reasons, New Zealanders haven\u2019t been telling ourselves that story, she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cWe\u2019ve been telling ourselves the story, that is true, which is we\u2019re also a country that\u2019s been through a massively tough time, very high cost of living, and it\u2019s been very challenging for many people.<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">\u201cOur job as a Government is to say, well, let\u2019s look at the good story, let\u2019s build on it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"vUWuwjCGukMuO\" style=\"display:none\">Liam Dann is business editor-at-large for theNZ Herald. He is a senior writer and columnist, and also presents and produces videos and podcasts. 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