{"id":361470,"date":"2025-12-21T00:40:13","date_gmt":"2025-12-21T00:40:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/361470\/"},"modified":"2025-12-21T00:40:13","modified_gmt":"2025-12-21T00:40:13","slug":"rivians-ai-pivot-is-about-more-than-chasing-tesla","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/361470\/","title":{"rendered":"Rivian\u2019s AI pivot is about more than chasing Tesla"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">RJ Scaringe is sitting in Rivian\u2019s Palo Alto offices, explaining why the adventure-themed EV company suddenly decided to build its own self-driving cars, when an unexpected guest glides by the window outside: Waymo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">A robotaxi from the Alphabet-owned company pulls up outside the office. The passenger, an analyst from Goldman Sachs, briefly takes a selfie before climbing inside. The Rivian founder and CEO chuckles at the scene.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cThat\u2019s amazing,\u201d he laughs. \u201cSo perfect.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">The arrival of the Waymo helps clarify the challenge that lies ahead for Rivian. A few hours earlier, Scaringe was onstage in front of an audience of hundreds of investors, reporters, and influencers <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/842213\/rivian-ai-autonomous-chip-specs\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">gathered for the company\u2019s announcement<\/a> of a huge, expensive, and undeniably risky bet on autonomy and AI. The goal, he said, is for Rivian to design its own AI chips that can help power higher levels of autonomy, eventually leading to Level 4 \u2014 no human supervision required within certain limits. Could Rivian achieve what has taken Waymo decades to accomplish, but on a much shorter timeline?<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">More importantly, can it do it safer and more effectively than Tesla, the other EV-only company that is attempting <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/news\/772508\/tesla-elon-musk-trillion-pay-package-robot\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">its own messy transformation<\/a> into an AI and robotics company? Rivian was founded as the outdoor lover\u2019s answer to Elon Musk\u2019s company: rugged, off-road worthy, and fully electric. Now it seems like it\u2019s trying to chase the mercurial billionaire down an AI rabbit hole.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Scaringe insists this isn\u2019t anything motivated by Tesla, but a recognition that the auto industry is staring up its own cliff. Advances in transformer-based encoding and large-parameter models prompted a fundamental shift in Rivian\u2019s thinking of the \u201cphysical AI\u201d of autonomous driving, he says. As such, Rivian began a clean-sheet redesign of its autonomy platform in early 2022. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/6\/6\/24172761\/rivian-r1t-r1s-refresh-update-motor-battery-price\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">With the introduction of its Gen 2 platform<\/a>, the company began building a \u201cdata flywheel\u201d to train a large driving model (sort of like an LLM, but for driving) using real-world driving data from its fleet. And because the model is trained end-to-end, Rivian says that improvements in sensors or compute directly enhance its capabilities, allowing the system to continuously improve as hardware advances.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Either Rivian pursues its own self-produced, vertically integrated autonomy strategy, or it risks being left in the dust by Waymo, Tesla, and others. Several times during the presentation, Scaringe notes that this isn\u2019t some bandwagon chasing, but rather a move born out of years of hard work and thoughtful design.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cI spent some time last night with the team talking about this right before we\u2019re about to show it today,\u201d Scaringe says onstage. \u201cAnd one of the lead engineers looked at me and said, \u2018Boy, we\u2019ve been working on this for years, and I haven\u2019t been able to talk about it. It\u2019s so cool. Tomorrow I can start to talk about what I do every day, all day long.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"kqz8fh1\" href=\"https:\/\/platform.theverge.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/Rivian-Universal-Hands-Free.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100\" data-pswp-height=\"2250\" data-pswp-width=\"3000\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\"><img alt=\"Universal Hands-Free will work on 3.5 million miles of road in North America.\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"fill\" class=\"x271pn0\" style=\"position:absolute;height:100%;width:100%;left:0;top:0;right:0;bottom:0;color:transparent;background-size:cover;background-position:50% 50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-image:url(&quot;data:image\/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' %3E%3Cfilter id='b' color-interpolation-filters='sRGB'%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3CfeColorMatrix values='1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 100 -1' result='s'\/%3E%3CfeFlood x='0' y='0' width='100%25' height='100%25'\/%3E%3CfeComposite operator='out' in='s'\/%3E%3CfeComposite in2='SourceGraphic'\/%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3C\/filter%3E%3Cimage width='100%25' height='100%25' x='0' y='0' preserveAspectRatio='none' style='filter: url(%23b);' href='data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABCAQAAAC1HAwCAAAAC0lEQVR42mN8+R8AAtcB6oaHtZcAAAAASUVORK5CYII='\/%3E%3C\/svg%3E&quot;)\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/Rivian-Universal-Hands-Free.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Universal Hands-Free will work on 3.5 million miles of road in North America.  Image: Rivian<\/p>\n<p>Hands-free, eyes-off, and beyond<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Rivian certainly isn\u2019t shy about sharing details now. The company\u2019s \u201cAI and Autonomy Day\u201d is set up like a Silicon Valley high school science fair. Tours take us throughout the Rivian office to see various projects: the new chip that will help power its AI ambitions, complete with microscopes to inspect the silicon in extreme close-up; its new in-car, AI-powered voice assistant that can navigate you to your favorite winery or pick the right song by Jelly Roll; and the lidar sensor that will help its vehicles drive themselves by creating a 3D picture of the world around it. There\u2019s even an R2 wrapped to look like R2-D2 from Star Wars.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">The most notable thing I get to experience is a test drive with an early preview of Rivian\u2019s new hands-free point-to-point capability. A software update, released soon after the event, allows Rivian owners to operate \u201chands-free\u201d on 3.5 million miles of road in the US and Canada. The point-to-point capability will come at a later date and will unlock even more partial autonomous driving. Think of it as Rivian\u2019s answer to Tesla\u2019s Full Self-Driving feature.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Rivian says that starting next year, if a road has clear, painted lane lines, drivers will be able to use hands-free driving. It\u2019ll be part of a paid package called Autonomy Plus, offered either as a one-time purchase of $2,900 or a monthly $49.99 subscription. (By comparison, Tesla offers its premium FSD option for $8,000 upfront or a $99-per-month fee.) Rivian\u2019s Autonomy Plus package will be available free to all customers until March 2026.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup qnnwq2 _1xwtict9\">The most notable thing I get to experience is a test drive with an early preview of Rivian\u2019s new hands-free point-to-point capability.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">I get to experience about 45 minutes of this feature from the passenger seat of an R1S as it drives through a series of tricky scenarios around Palo Alto. A Rivian engineer sits in the driver\u2019s seat, ready to take control if anything goes wrong, but he mostly keeps his hands in his lap and his feet off the pedals as the R1S navigates intersections, traffic signals, and a bevy of pedestrians, cyclists, and other vulnerable road users.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">The car seems to handle itself just fine, with the engineer only once taking control of the vehicle to avoid getting stuck at a red light. At one point, we thread a narrow path between a passing truck on one side and a cyclist in a bike lane on the other \u2014 and while I think we come a little too close to the cyclist, the car didn\u2019t slow down or wobble in the lane. Days after the event, I learn of <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2025\/12\/12\/inside-rivians-big-et-on-ai-powered-self-driving\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">other test rides<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=I0VXkDTt8dQ\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">with more disengagements<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=yoQzld8B4Zg&amp;t=147s\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">than mine<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">There\u2019s none of the jerkiness or hesitancy that I typically associate with a first-gen driver-assist system. Maybe that\u2019s because in addition to 11 cameras, the system is also receiving data from five radar sensors, helping it form a more complete view of the world around it. Tesla\u2019s FSD system, by comparison, is camera-only.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">With more cars equipped with partial automation hitting the road, safety researchers are growing increasingly worried about driver attention and the potential for these systems to cause crashes. But Rivian subscribes to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/11\/26\/24306519\/adas-partial-automation-driver-attention-steering-iihs\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">theory that drivers should work with the hands-free system<\/a> by adjusting the steering or pushing the accelerator without disengaging it. Rivian can switch between two different types of steering controllers that allow the driver to input their own steering when they want, Nick Nguyen, director of product and programs for autonomy, tells me.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cWe\u2019re big believers in collaboration,\u201d he says. \u201cWe want you to interact with it as much or as little as you want.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"kqz8fh1\" href=\"https:\/\/platform.theverge.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/R2_Lidar_5_c861c6.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100\" data-pswp-height=\"2000\" data-pswp-width=\"3000\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\"><img alt=\"The company\u2019s new lidar sensor will come with the R2.\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"fill\" class=\"x271pn0\" style=\"position:absolute;height:100%;width:100%;left:0;top:0;right:0;bottom:0;color:transparent;background-size:cover;background-position:50% 50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-image:url(&quot;data:image\/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' %3E%3Cfilter id='b' color-interpolation-filters='sRGB'%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3CfeColorMatrix values='1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 100 -1' result='s'\/%3E%3CfeFlood x='0' y='0' width='100%25' height='100%25'\/%3E%3CfeComposite operator='out' in='s'\/%3E%3CfeComposite in2='SourceGraphic'\/%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3C\/filter%3E%3Cimage width='100%25' height='100%25' x='0' y='0' preserveAspectRatio='none' style='filter: url(%23b);' href='data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABCAQAAAC1HAwCAAAAC0lEQVR42mN8+R8AAtcB6oaHtZcAAAAASUVORK5CYII='\/%3E%3C\/svg%3E&quot;)\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/R2_Lidar_5_c861c6.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The company\u2019s new lidar sensor will come with the R2. Image: Rivian<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">The real test is still to come. Rivian\u2019s Gen 3 system will include the company\u2019s proprietary silicon chip and the same sensor stack <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/6\/6\/24172761\/rivian-r1t-r1s-refresh-update-motor-battery-price\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">as Gen 2<\/a>, with one crucial addition: lidar. The laser sensor is not typically found in privately owned vehicles, featuring more prominently in robotaxis like Waymo. Rivian is planning to add it to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2024\/3\/7\/24093215\/rivian-r2-revealed-ev-suv-price-specs-price\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">upcoming more affordable model, the R2<\/a> \u2014 and taking a huge risk in the process.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Lidar is pricey, but those costs are coming down. Rivian wouldn\u2019t disclose its lidar supplier, but the difference between a camera-only system like Tesla\u2019s and one with multiple sensors is stark. During the presentation, James Philbin, Rivian\u2019s vice president for autonomy and AI, shows a side-by-side visual comparison of Rivian\u2019s autonomy software identifying and interpreting objects ahead using only its cameras; cameras and radar; and the trifecta of cameras, radar, and lidar. The latter setup is the clear victor, spotting several hidden objects and even pedestrians that the camera-only or camera-plus-radar approaches could not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">In our interview, Scaringe clarifies that the R2 will begin production next year without lidar or the Gen 3 autonomy computer, both of which won\u2019t be added until the end of 2026. On Reddit, Rivian fans are upset that the company couldn\u2019t better time the rollout so that early adopters wouldn\u2019t be left to choose between a less powerful R2 right away or a more powerful one later. But Scaringe insists that demand for R2 is already so high that Rivian doesn\u2019t expect a significant sales impact.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">What could impact sales is a janky, unreliable system. But Scaringe assures me that Gen 3 is anything but. The AI computer will feature a dual-chip setup capable of 1,600 trillion operations a second (TOPS), a figure that he claims would have been unimaginable a few years ago.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">But what actually matters is how fast the computer processes information, like pixels for camera-based robotics. Rivian says its Gen 3 system will be able to process 5 billion pixels a second, which is not a common specification you hear tossed around in the AI world, but one Scaringe believes should impress people even more than the TOPS measure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup qnnwq2 _1xwtict9\">Scaringe insists that demand for R2 is already so high that Rivian doesn\u2019t expect a significant sales impact.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cTesla recently talked about theirs,\u201d he says. \u201cI\u2019ll let you Google it, but it\u2019s a lot less.\u201d (It\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tesla.com\/fsd\/safety\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">1 million pixels per milisecond<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">The next major milestone is \u201ceyes-off\u201d driving, where users no longer need to watch the road and, according to Scaringe, can fully reclaim their time to read, use their phone, or relax. Beyond that lies personal Level 4 capability, where the vehicle operates entirely on its own on certain roads, no human supervision required.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Whether Rivian ultimately gets there will depend on whether the company can create trust around its products. And that will require a transparent <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/transportation\/812439\/eyes-off-driving-level-3-legal-liability-crash\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">approach to legal liability<\/a> that most automakers, Rivian included, have yet to fully embrace.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Scaringe notes that as autonomy improves, human driving will shrink from roughly 80\u201390 percent of miles today to 10\u201320 percent within a few years, and eventually to zero. At that point, a driver\u2019s personal skill level becomes irrelevant to risk assessment, and insurance must shift accordingly, he says. Rivian has a partnership with Nationwide for its insurance claims, but has yet to work out how it will accept liability for crashes that occur in its autonomous vehicles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cThis is like the ticky-tacky of the real work streams to make this all real,\u201d Scaringe says. \u201cBeyond the technology, but actually, like, the business systems that need to be designed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"kqz8fh1\" href=\"https:\/\/platform.theverge.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/gettyimages-2250628296.jpg?quality=90&amp;strip=all&amp;crop=0,0,100,100\" data-pswp-height=\"2668\" data-pswp-width=\"4000\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\"><img alt=\"Rivian\u2019s RAP1 chip, or the first-generation Rivian Autonomy Processor.\" data-chromatic=\"ignore\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-nimg=\"fill\" class=\"x271pn0\" style=\"position:absolute;height:100%;width:100%;left:0;top:0;right:0;bottom:0;color:transparent;background-size:cover;background-position:50% 50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-image:url(&quot;data:image\/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,%3Csvg xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg' %3E%3Cfilter id='b' color-interpolation-filters='sRGB'%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3CfeColorMatrix values='1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 100 -1' result='s'\/%3E%3CfeFlood x='0' y='0' width='100%25' height='100%25'\/%3E%3CfeComposite operator='out' in='s'\/%3E%3CfeComposite in2='SourceGraphic'\/%3E%3CfeGaussianBlur stdDeviation='20'\/%3E%3C\/filter%3E%3Cimage width='100%25' height='100%25' x='0' y='0' preserveAspectRatio='none' style='filter: url(%23b);' href='data:image\/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAABCAQAAAC1HAwCAAAAC0lEQVR42mN8+R8AAtcB6oaHtZcAAAAASUVORK5CYII='\/%3E%3C\/svg%3E&quot;)\"   src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/gettyimages-2250628296.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Rivian\u2019s RAP1 chip, or the first-generation Rivian Autonomy Processor. Image: Bloomberg via Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">In Palo Alto, the reactions to Rivian\u2019s announcements are enthusiastic. All the influencers and analysts I talk to are impressed with what they\u2019re being shown. But despite this, the company\u2019s stock falls 6 percent the day of the event to close at $16.43 per share. Tesla, meanwhile, continues to trade at over $460 per share. Rivian\u2019s stock has since bounced back slightly, and while the company has eked out a gross profit in the past, it\u2019s still facing a very tough road ahead with the elimination of the EV tax credit and the enormous capital costs that will be needed to realize its AI dreams.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">And there\u2019s still the issue of why Rivian is doing this in the first place. While fans may be left scratching their heads over why their favorite outdoor brand is chasing after Tesla with its AI strategy, the company is doing the necessary work to keep itself relevant in a new era, says mobility investor Reilly Brennan.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cHaving an AI strategy is growing into a necessary component for public auto companies in this era \u2014 at least the ones that want public market comps on the high end of the continuum, a la Tesla,\u201d Brennan tells me. \u201cConsider it like those overachieving high school students trying to get into Harvard: It\u2019s not a requirement that they both started a charity and play the contrabassoon, but it sure seems like everyone else who gets in is doing it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">There\u2019s peer pressure, and then there\u2019s the necessity of finding new ways to earn money off your customers. A $50-a-month autonomy subscription could be a lucrative new revenue stream for Rivian, which needs to become profitable to survive.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">Scaringe sounds like a true convert. He thinks that we\u2019re rapidly approaching a time in which AI will become as accessible as \u201crunning water and electricity,\u201d he says during the presentation. No mention is made of how much running water and electricity is consumed by AI, which, for a company that <a href=\"https:\/\/go.skimresources.com\/?id=1025X1701640&amp;xs=1&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fgoogle.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dsite%253Atheverge.com%2Brivian%2Bclimate%26oq%3Dsite%253Atheverge.com%2Brivian%2Bclimate%26gs_lcrp%3DEgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRg60gEINjg1M2owajeoAgCwAgA%26sourceid%3Dchrome%26ie%3DUTF-8\" rel=\"sponsored nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">purports to care about the environment<\/a>, could quickly become a problem.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">And Rivian is not fully committed to following Musk\u2019s ceaseless, clout-chasing pursuit of robotaxis and humanoid robots \u2014 though Scaringe admits that both remain a possibility. The company spun off its own robotics division <a href=\"http:\/\/v\" rel=\"nofollow\">as Mind Robotics<\/a> earlier this year, after all.<\/p>\n<p class=\"duet--article--dangerously-set-cms-markup duet--article--standard-paragraph _1ymtmqpi _17nnmdy1 _17nnmdy0 _1xwtict1\">\u201cThe part of the problem that\u2019s not solved is the Level 4,\u201d he tells me, standing up because he has several more interviews ahead, and my time is up. \u201cAnd so that\u2019s our focus, on the tech.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Follow topics and authors from this story to see more like this in your personalized homepage feed and to receive email updates.Andrew J. HawkinsClose<img alt=\"Andrew J. 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