{"id":44479,"date":"2025-08-05T04:42:19","date_gmt":"2025-08-05T04:42:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/44479\/"},"modified":"2025-08-05T04:42:19","modified_gmt":"2025-08-05T04:42:19","slug":"isnt-it-nice-we-both-hate-the-same-things-author-jessica-seaborn-knew-two-people-when-she-moved-to-sydney-then-they-left","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/44479\/","title":{"rendered":"Isn&#8217;t It Nice We Both Hate the Same Things author Jessica Seaborn knew two people when she moved to Sydney, then they left"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">The new novel Isn&#8217;t it Nice We Both Hate the Same Things starts with a text message exchange that begins on March 7 between friends: &#8220;I haven&#8217;t seen you in forever! We should catch up.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Before you know it, it&#8217;s Christmas and the friends in question still haven&#8217;t caught up.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Author Jessica Seaborn has been there.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I do have a friend where we seem to only message each other for the milestones,&#8221; Seaborn tells ABC News.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;So, she&#8217;ll reach out and go &#8216;I&#8217;m just letting you know we&#8217;re expecting another baby&#8217; and &#8216;just letting you know we&#8217;ve had our baby. This is her name&#8217; and she&#8217;ll be like &#8216;congratulations on your engagement&#8217;, &#8216;happy Christmas&#8217;, &#8216;happy birthday&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I looked at the text message history and it was just the milestones.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;And that is so sad, and maybe so true about some friendships.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Author Jessica Seaborn holding up a copy of her book with pink cover and two people illustrated on the cover\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/8fb1aebd9e1bddf1d504bb684a4311ea\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Seaborn was with friends talking about how hard it is to make friends when she realised that was the topic she needed to explore for book two. (Supplied)<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I just thought it was a really great way to start the novel and hopefully make people laugh and realise what they&#8217;re in for maybe.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Seaborn is the author of Perfect-ish, which was published by Penguin Random House in 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">That book underwent several name changes before Seaborn landed on the perfect, excuse the pun, title, whereas the title of her second novel has never changed.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Jessica Seaborn pulling copies of Perfect-ish out of a box, cover is illustrated, books stacked beside her, bookshelf behind\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/b419ddb4027bf8a0db06da3c27414e08\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Jessica Seaborn unboxing her first book Perfect-ish. (Supplied)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I was doing a lot of research into adult friendships,&#8221; Seaborn says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I knew that that&#8217;s what the book was going to explore, and I was researching a lot to form the plot.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;And when I was kind of trolling through the depths of searching terms like adult friendship or making new friends, someone had written a tweet like &#8216;you know making new friends is just finding someone who hates the same things as you do&#8217; and someone kind of had replied and said &#8216;isn&#8217;t it nice when that happens&#8217; and so I just merged the two.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Seaborn was also inadvertently, she says, influenced by The Simpsons, where a similar phrase has made its way onto television.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Two Simpsons characters facing each other - Principal Skinner talking with hand raised, a woman with purple hair listening\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/751f68bd9dc629f3557c8a1e9babcd03\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Pincipal Skinner poses the question &#8220;Isn&#8217;t it nice we hate the same things?&#8221; on The Simpsons. (Supplied: Disney+)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Isn&#8217;t it Nice We Both Hate the Same Things follows Charlie, who is in her early 30s and has always had a big group of friends, until she left her husband, and they all sided with him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">At the same time, she can feel her best friend Genevieve drifting away.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">She embarks on a mission to find new friends, and in the process is forced to reckon with her own insecurities and assess whether she really wants to spend time with certain people.<\/p>\n<p>Two reasons people want to make new friends<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;When I was doing research for the book, and I was researching friendship, they say there&#8217;s usually two reasons that someone feels they need to make new friends,&#8221; Seaborn says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;One of them is when you move somewhere new, which is how I could relate to it, moving to Sydney [from Brisbane].<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;The other one is ending a long-term relationship and losing all of your mutual friends.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;So, I brought both of those into the story.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Jessica Seaborn wearing sunglasses and a sleeveless top in front of the Opera House and Sydney Harbour Bridge\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/6094d6adbd9d6c8d644180bd1e058a92\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Seaborn in Sydney in 2014, shortly before moving there for work at the age of 21. (Supplied)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">When Seaborn moved to Sydney from Brisbane, she hardly knew anyone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;My move to Sydney, when I was 21, I moved for a job and I knew two people \u2026 and they left not long after I arrived, so I really had no one except for housemates that I met on the internet and colleagues,&#8221; Seaborn says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It took a while to form friendships.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I really didn&#8217;t have a lot of people, and it was quite a lonely experience and, I think, when I came out of COVID maybe, I felt it even more and I realised how much I had to make more of an effort to catch up with people.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;And I think it&#8217;s just a universal and relatable experience and I think it&#8217;s harder as you get older.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I think you do have to put yourself out there and it&#8217;s not necessarily a comfortable thing to do.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Putting friendships to the test<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Isn&#8217;t it Nice We Both Hate the Same Things also explores intergenerational friendships and friendships among family members. And it looks at what can happen when you test a friendship.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I felt like there was really no reason to explore a story that really explored making more friends unless you have a moment where you really have to test the friendship,&#8221; Seaborn says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;And that moment is: if I really needed somebody, who would turn up?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;That&#8217;s a question I ask myself a lot when I&#8217;m thinking about friendships or thinking about who I surround myself with.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I always ask myself, if I really needed this person would they turn up?&#8221;<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Jessica Seaborn head in hand sitting at a desk in front of a laptop and monitor with a large bookshelf behind her\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/5f471d56f34c5e4c3a2fdac6214e67ad\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Seaborn says it&#8217;s the quality of a friendship that matters. (Supplied)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Seaborn says people don&#8217;t necessarily need a lot of friends, it&#8217;s about the quality of those relationships that matter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;For me, friendship is quality over quantity,&#8221; Seaborn says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;And I think it&#8217;s important also as you get older to really keep putting yourself out there to meet new people and to make new friendships and I think you can meet people at different stages of your life that are just as important in your life.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Sometimes all you need are a few great people around you and they may be family or they may be friends or they may be colleagues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;But don&#8217;t feel so alone if you&#8217;ve just got a few good people because that&#8217;s still a great thing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\"><a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.penguin.com.au\/books\/isnt-it-nice-we-both-hate-the-same-things-9781761340109\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Isn&#8217;t it Nice We Both Hate the Same Things<\/a> by Jessica Seaborn is published by Penguin Random House.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"The new novel Isn&#8217;t it Nice We Both Hate the Same Things starts with a text message exchange&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":44480,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[64,63,38842,134,38837,38839,38840,38841,38838],"class_list":["post-44479","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-entertainment","tag-au","tag-australia","tag-best-friends","tag-entertainment","tag-isnt-it-nice-we-both-hate-the-same-things","tag-jessica-seaborn","tag-losing-friends","tag-making-new-friends","tag-novel"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44479","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44479"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44479\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/44480"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44479"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44479"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44479"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}