{"id":45225,"date":"2025-08-05T11:41:08","date_gmt":"2025-08-05T11:41:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/45225\/"},"modified":"2025-08-05T11:41:08","modified_gmt":"2025-08-05T11:41:08","slug":"openai-offer-sparked-instant-interest-from-meta-ai-engineer-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/45225\/","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI Offer Sparked Instant Interest From Meta, AI Engineer Says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Meta is making headlines for <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/meet-the-people-zuck-hired-for-his-ai-superintelligence-team-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">poaching<\/a> leading AI researchers and offering some compensation packages that <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ai-talent-warbargain-meta-openai-ex-google-hr-boss-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">reach into the nine figures<\/a>. Hiring AI-focused software engineers is becoming <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/big-tech-ai-talent-salaries-zuckerberg-altman-murati-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">intensely competitive<\/a> across Big Tech and <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ai-talent-wars-startups-compete-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">AI startups.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This as-told-to essay is based on a conversation with Yangshun Tay, a 35-year-old AI engineer currently based in Singapore. Tay previously worked for five years at Meta and now runs <a target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.greatfrontend.com\/?gnrs=business_insider\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">GreatFrontEnd<\/a>, a startup that helps software developers improve their skills.<\/p>\n<p>This interview has been edited for length and clarity. Meta and OpenAI didn&#8217;t respond to requests for comment.<\/p>\n<p>I interviewed with OpenAI a while ago, but I only decided to <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/yangshun_i-got-an-openai-offer-without-doing-a-single-activity-7355823072177762304-ZMAB\/\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">post about their offer<\/a> on Tuesday. Within the next 12 hours, Meta sent me an email <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/yangshun_i-received-an-email-from-my-ex-last-night-activity-7356264674868256768-jUoE\/\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">congratulating<\/a> me on my OpenAI offer and asking if I&#8217;d be interested in working with them.<\/p>\n<p>What was amusing to me was that I initially thought they didn&#8217;t know I had previously worked at Meta. But when I replied to their email, they actually noted that they knew about my background there. They knew exactly who I was.<\/p>\n<p>I worked at Meta for over five years before leaving to build my own company, <a target=\"_blank\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.greatfrontend.com\/?gnrs=business_insider\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;click_type&quot;:&quot;other&quot;,&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;outbound_click&quot;}\" rel=\" nofollow noopener\">GreatFrontEnd<\/a>, which is a platform for front-end engineers to upskill themselves. We have around 10 people now, though we&#8217;re not looking to scale it extremely big. We&#8217;re keeping it running while we explore new ideas and products.<\/p>\n<p>Meta isn&#8217;t leading the AI race<\/p>\n<p>I was very surprised that Meta reached out so quickly because I don&#8217;t actually have a background in AI research. I&#8217;m more on the applied engineering side. Even for the OpenAI role, it&#8217;s for software engineering \u2014 building ChatGPT and working with those teams. So I was surprised Meta was also hiring for AI engineering positions.<\/p>\n<p>                      Related stories<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>But I&#8217;m probably not going back to Meta. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re leading the AI race right now, even though they&#8217;ve <a target=\"_self\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/meet-the-people-zuck-hired-for-his-ai-superintelligence-team-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">made a lot of high-profile hires<\/a>. I&#8217;m just not too bullish on Meta after working there for over five years.<\/p>\n<p>The Meta outreach wasn&#8217;t really an offer anyway. Since I&#8217;ve been gone for more than two years, I&#8217;d have to re-interview if I wanted to join back.<\/p>\n<p>The opportunity cost of being an employee is high<\/p>\n<p>Being in demand as an AI engineer is great, but <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/big-tech-layoffs-hiring-mircosoft-google-meta-ai-why-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">it&#8217;s also a little stressful<\/a>, and I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s sustainable. To be honest\u2014 I&#8217;d prefer to build my own things right now &#8211; maybe start new AI products or ventures.<\/p>\n<p>The opportunity cost of being an employee is quite high because AI is moving so fast. By being an employee and building ideas for somebody else, you&#8217;re losing out on the opportunity to build a product that could eventually become very big.<\/p>\n<p>I think it&#8217;s great for top talent, but there are a lot of <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/software-engineer-offers-thousands-job-referral-linkedin-2025-4\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">engineers struggling to find jobs,<\/a> as well. Based on my experience, AI advancement really relies on breakthroughs that come from just a few people. You don&#8217;t need too many \u2014 just a few smart, cream-of-the-crop people to have major breakthroughs and extremely disproportionate impact. That&#8217;s why Meta is willing to <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ai-talent-warbargain-meta-openai-ex-google-hr-boss-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">pay so much for top talent<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But talent moves around so frequently in the Bay Area between tech companies. Even if Meta has a breakthrough, it&#8217;s not going to stay within Meta&#8217;s walls for long. Every big company is building their own AI models now. There&#8217;s <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/google-data-centers-cloud-welcome-aboard-ai-crazy-train-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">a model arms race going on right now<\/a>. You see companies beating each other every other day in terms of benchmarks.<\/p>\n<p>I think it&#8217;s overall good for humanity and AI advancement \u2014 so Meta is actually doing everyone a favor.<\/p>\n<p>AI is changing how teams work<\/p>\n<p>Many CEOs are claiming they&#8217;re <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/amazon-jassy-ceos-warning-workers-ai-bring-massive-change-2025-6\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">replacing their workforce with AI, <\/a>and those without special skills are definitely more at risk. AI is great at doing stuff that&#8217;s well-practiced and has been done many times. A lot of work in <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/ai-coding-tools-popular-github-gemini-code-assist-cursor-q-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">software engineering<\/a> falls into this category \u2014 there&#8217;s already a solution, you just need someone to implement it.<\/p>\n<p>AI handles that well, which leaves people to focus on what matters more: creativity and innovation. That&#8217;s where top talent comes in \u2014 they&#8217;re the ones innovating.<\/p>\n<p>The hiring environment now is nowhere close to what I experienced during my previous years at Meta. The salaries were great back then, but nowhere near what Meta is paying for AI talent now.<\/p>\n<p>I posted to raise my profile<\/p>\n<p>After I posted about my OpenAI offer, it wasn&#8217;t just Meta that reached out. Several other companies, mostly smaller companies I hadn&#8217;t heard of, sent cold emails.<\/p>\n<p>Posting about the offer was more for marketing purposes. My plan was to say I have some offers, but I&#8217;m not taking them. It&#8217;s just to raise my profile and for future projects.<\/p>\n<p>I was seriously considering joining OpenAI, but ultimately I think the timing is too good to pass up. Right now is a great time to build and start a company.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Meta is making headlines for poaching leading AI researchers and offering some compensation packages that reach into the&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":45226,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[256,254,255,64,63,105],"class_list":{"0":"post-45225","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-artificial-intelligence","8":"tag-ai","9":"tag-artificial-intelligence","10":"tag-artificialintelligence","11":"tag-au","12":"tag-australia","13":"tag-technology"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45225","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=45225"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45225\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/45226"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=45225"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=45225"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=45225"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}