{"id":481677,"date":"2026-02-15T13:48:13","date_gmt":"2026-02-15T13:48:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/481677\/"},"modified":"2026-02-15T13:48:13","modified_gmt":"2026-02-15T13:48:13","slug":"im-a-british-expat-in-germany-brexit-made-my-pension-more-complicated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/481677\/","title":{"rendered":"I\u2019m a British expat in Germany. Brexit made my pension more complicated"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tThere are intricacies to life as a long-term British expat in the post-Brexit world\t\t\t\t\t                <\/p>\n<p>A British woman who moved to Germany in 1985 considers the country her home, but said <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/brexit?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Brexit<\/a> has made claiming a <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/pensions?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">pension<\/a> and caring for aging relatives in the UK more difficult.<\/p>\n<p>Sheona Gillespie, 62, was posted in <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/germany?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Germany<\/a> with the <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/british-army?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">British Army<\/a> from 1985 to 1990. She met her now-husband, another Briton who had also been stationed in Germany with the army, and the pair decided to move there permanently.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019ve hardly lived in the UK,\u201d Gillespie told The i Paper. \u201cWe moved around when I was a child because my parents were both in the <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/military?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">military<\/a>, so Germany really is home.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When she finished working in the army aged 26, there was no doubt in Gillespie\u2019s mind about whether she would stay in Germany or return to the UK. They moved to the western city of Krefeld in North Rhine-Westphalia near D\u00fcsseldorf.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[My husband and I] both started working for German companies and just had a whale of a time travelling around mainland <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/europe?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Europe<\/a>,\u201d she said. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019d go to a lot of rock concerts and football games. It was exciting being in Europe in the 90s \u2013 a lot of fun. It was easy to get around and the <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/cost-of-living?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">cost of living<\/a> at the time was much lower than in the UK.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When Gillespie and her husband had their daughters, who are now 29 and 27, they sent them to German schools, which they found \u201cvery different\u201d to those in England. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cTransferring them back to the UK for school wasn\u2019t something we were going to do,\u201d she said. \u201cSo we stayed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>After that, they never considered moving back, and now live in the town of Erkelenz, about 30 miles south-west of Krefeld. Their daughters have stayed in Germany, too.<\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"427\" width=\"760\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/comp-1770655801.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4225270\"  \/>Gillespie and her husband attending a football match between Borussia M\u00f6nchengladbach<br \/>and Bayer Leverkusen <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey both consider themselves culturally British \u2013 we <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/opinion\/the-thing-that-really-irks-me-about-people-who-refuse-to-learn-another-language-3655226?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">speak English at home<\/a> and watch English-speaking television \u2013 but when they are with Germans, they are fully German,\u201d she said. \u201cThey, like us, don\u2019t consider the UK their home.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>However, moving to Germany when she was only 20 years old, Gillespie did not fully grasp the implications of living abroad at the age of 60.<\/p>\n<p>Gillespie\u2019s mother, who is based in the UK, has been unwell, meaning she has had to travel back and forth every other month to care for her.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s something I never thought about, and I wish I had paid more attention earlier and prepared better for this,\u201d she admitted.<\/p>\n<p>Before <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/news\/world\/brexit-rethink-emerging-europe-labour-politics-4210822?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Brexit<\/a>, Gillespie could have  brought her mother over to live with her in Germany.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere might be a way to do it now, but it is so much more difficult,\u201d she said. \u201cI just wish someone had mentioned to me what living abroad would mean with <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/inews-lifestyle\/sibling-estrangement-parent-care-responsibility-3983320?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ageing parents<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Gillespie also did not considered her pension when she relocated to Germany. She said the British and German pension schemes were similar in many ways.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHere [in Germany], you have a pay-as-you-earn (PAYE) type of scheme where you pay into the pension fund,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"738\" height=\"606\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/SEI_284224315.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4225207\"  \/>Gillespie with her husband and two daughters at Legoland Deutschland <\/p>\n<p>Since Gillespie was 40, she has received a letter each year from the German pension authority outlining her contributions, when she can retire, and how much she will get per month: \u20ac2,700 (\u00a32,349).<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI can retire at 67, which is again, really <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/inews-lifestyle\/money\/pensions-and-retirement\/state-pension-100-retirement-risk-4168720?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">similar to the UK<\/a>,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>At 50, Gillespie was invited to the German pension authority offices to review her pension contributions and check there were no gaps in her payments. It was at this meeting that she was reminded she would also have a British pension to claim.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019d get a small pension from my five years in the military, and a small workplace pension,\u201d she said. \u201cIt had never occurred to me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The adviser she saw in Germany at the time, when the UK was still a part of the EU, told her that he would make a call to a \u201cpension guy in Newcastle\u201d and link the British and German pensions.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhat would happen is that when I claimed my German pension, the bit that comes from the UK would have been paid by the UK pension authority,\u201d she explained. \u201cThey pay it to Germany and then the German pension authority would give it to me in one lump sum.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That, however, has changed since Brexit. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cNow, it doesn\u2019t get paid in one lump sum,\u201d she said. \u201cThe Germans pay me my German pension, and I have to claim my UK pension myself.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It should, according to Gillespie, be a straightforward process. \u201cYou do it all online,\u201d she said. \u201cThere are lots of forms, you give them all the documents they require, and they send it over.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But it means yet another step that would not have existed before Brexit.<\/p>\n<p>Gillespie\u2019s husband has recently had to follow the same process. He was surprised to hear that, because he had an extra lump of money coming from his UK pension, he would have to pay a \u00a3200 a month to the German healthcare system.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur health insurance is deducted from your salary at source like in the UK while you\u2019re working,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s about 13.5 per cent of your <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/wages-and-salaries?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">salary<\/a>, and the employer contributes the same. I\u2019ll have to essentially <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/inews-lifestyle\/money\/pay-into-pension-reeves-wrong-scrap-salary-4043110?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">pay that amount<\/a> (13.5 per cent) out of my British state pension to German healthcare when I get it upon turning 67.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNone of this about pensions had crossed my mind when I made the decision to live here,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>Still, Gillespie does not regret her decision in the least.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGermany is my home,\u201d she said. \u201cBut I do miss a <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/topic\/pubs?ico=in-line_link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">British pub<\/a> and having common cultural connections with other Brits.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\t\tYour next read<\/p>\n<p>        <a class=\"post_in-line_link\" href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/news\/world\/i-was-navalnys-close-friend-trumps-cosy-business-ties-to-putin-are-ridiculous-4237546?ico=in-line_link\" title=\"I was Navalny\u2019s close friend. 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