{"id":48463,"date":"2025-08-06T18:25:09","date_gmt":"2025-08-06T18:25:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/48463\/"},"modified":"2025-08-06T18:25:09","modified_gmt":"2025-08-06T18:25:09","slug":"toto-wolff-admits-a-long-term-mercedes-problem-tripped-us-over-again-after-u-turn-with-george-russells-car","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/48463\/","title":{"rendered":"Toto Wolff admits a long-term Mercedes problem \u2018tripped us over\u2019 again after U-turn with George Russell\u2019s car"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Mercedes returned to the podium for the first time in four rounds, as George Russell sealed third place in the 2025 F1 Hungarian Grand Prix for his sixth rostrum this year.<\/p>\n<p>The Silver Arrows endured a sombre stretch after <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/tag\/george-russell\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Russell<\/a> won the Canadian Grand Prix from pole position back in June, while rookie <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/tag\/andrea-kimi-antonelli\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Andrea Kimi Antonelli<\/a> also had his debut F1 podium in P3. Russell also gave <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/tag\/mercedes\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Mercedes<\/a> their sole pole and win of the 2025 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/formula-1-calendar\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">F1 season<\/a> in Montreal.<\/p>\n<p>Neither Russell nor Antonelli could build on their performances in the Great White North, as Mercedes struggled across the Grands Prix in Austria, Britain and Belgium. But after finishing fifth at the Red Bull Ring and Spa plus P10 at Silverstone, Russell got P3 in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/tag\/hungarian-grand-prix\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Hungarian GP<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Ferrari star <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/news\/george-russell-and-anthony-davidson-agree-on-why-charles-leclerc-became-a-sitting-duck-in-hungarian-grand-prix\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Charles Leclerc\u2019s likely skid plank wear issues in the Hungarian GP<\/a> helped to see Russell return to the rostrum. But Antonelli could only finish P10 at the Hungaroring after he qualified P15, for the 18-year-old\u2019s second points-paying result in the last eight Grands Prix.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/GettyImages-2227518237-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Mercedes driver George Russell on track during qualifying for the 2025 F1 Hungarian Grand Prix\" \/>Photo by Andrea Diodato\/NurPhoto via Getty ImagesToto Wolff admits Mercedes\u2019 correlation problems caused their rear suspension upgrade U-turn<\/p>\n<p>Another reason behind Russell\u2019s rostrum in Budapest was that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/news\/kimi-antonelli-admits-ive-been-struggling-since-mercedes-made-one-mistake-with-his-car\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Mercedes removed their rear suspension upgrade at the Hungarian GP<\/a>. Their update debuted at Imola and then revived in Montreal caused instability issues, which saw the Briton and Antonelli lose their confidence.<\/p>\n<p>READ MORE: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/news\/who-is-george-russell-life-outside-of-f1-from-net-worth-to-height\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Mercedes driver George Russell\u2019s life outside F1 from net worth to height<\/a><\/p>\n<p>   Position Constructors&#8217; Standings PointsPts    1    559  2    260  3    236  4    194 <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/news\/mercedes-have-opted-to-remove-upgrade-which-has-given-kimi-antonelli-and-george-russell-trouble-in-2025\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Mercedes will not bring their failed rear suspension upgrade back<\/a>, with team principal <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/tag\/toto-wolff\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Wolff<\/a> now suggesting that it will end up \u201cin a bin\u201d. The Silver Arrows chief also admits the update\u2019s failure has shown that his Brackley bunch are yet to fix their long-term correlation problems.<\/p>\n<p>Wolff explained to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.the-race.com\/formula-1\/why-a-deceptive-mercedes-upgrade-is-being-chucked-in-a-bin\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">The Race<\/a>: \u201cUpgrades are here to bring performance, and there\u2019s a lot of simulation and analysis that goes into putting parts on the car.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThen they\u2019re just utterly wrong, and you need to go back to the analogue world and put it on the car and see what it does, and it doesn\u2019t do what it should do.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s the tricky bit for everyone in Formula 1. How do you bring correlation from what the digital world tells you into the real world? That has been a feature [of Mercedes\u2019 problems], and this is the last example of how it tripped us over.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Andrea Kimi Antonelli got his confidence in Mercedes\u2019 W16 back without the update<img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/GettyImages-2228337569-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"Mercedes driver Andrea Kimi Antonelli on track during the 2025 F1 Hungarian Grand Prix\" \/>Photo by James Sutton \u2013 Formula 1\/Formula 1 via Getty Images<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/news\/gary-anderson-spotted-win-win-upgrade-on-george-russells-mercedes-at-the-canadian-grand-prix\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Gary Anderson thought Mercedes\u2019 Canadian GP rear suspension upgrade was a \u2018win-win\u2019<\/a> as it helped Russell earn their only pole and win of the season so far. The update was meant to help Mercedes control their rear tyre temperatures by increasing the anti-lift under braking.<\/p>\n<p>READ MORE: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.f1oversteer.com\/drivers\/who-is-andrea-kimi-antonelli-age-nationality-height-dad-stats\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Know all about 2025 Mercedes F1 driver Andrea Kimi Antonelli including stats<\/a><\/p>\n<p>CategoryGeorge RussellAndrea Kimi Antonelli2025 points17264Grand Prix results140Grand Prix qualifying131Grand Prix wins10Grand Prix poles10Grand Prix podiums61Best finish1st3rdDisqualifications00Retirements02Retirements (classified finish)00Fastest laps22Grand Prix points finishes148Sprint results30Sprint Qualifying21Sprint wins00Sprint poles01Sprint podiums00The 2025 F1 teammate head-to-head battle of George Russell and Andrea Kimi Antonelli<\/p>\n<p>But while it worked at the Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve, the upgrade caused more problems than it fixed at the Red Bull Ring, Silverstone and Spa. So, it was not used at the Hungaroring, and will likely not be seen again after the summer break with Wolff now keen to put it \u201cin a bin\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Antonelli would no doubt be glad to see Mercedes throw the failed upgrade in a bin, as the 18-year-old got his confidence in the W16 back at the Hungarian GP. While he qualified P15 with a 1:16.386, he did post a 1:15.693 for P11 in Q2 which was deleted due to track limits.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am really happy that my confidence in the car has come back this weekend,\u201d he said, via the F1 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.formula1.com\/en\/latest\/article\/antonelli-pleased-with-point-after-tough-and-never-ending-hungarian-grand.1XGw3UNpvZ0lVf3MVSPOAC\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">website<\/a>. \u201cI leave Budapest feeling much more comfortable after moving back to the previous rear suspension. Qualifying was just a shame, as the pace was clearly there.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Mercedes returned to the podium for the first time in four rounds, as George Russell sealed third place&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":48464,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[572],"tags":[12295,64,63,3875,32451,945,806,805,803,804,85,4703],"class_list":["post-48463","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-motosport","tag-andrea-kimi-antonelli","tag-au","tag-australia","tag-george-russell","tag-hungarian-grand-prix","tag-mercedes","tag-motor","tag-motor-sports","tag-motosport","tag-motosports","tag-sports","tag-toto-wolff"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48463","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=48463"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/48463\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/48464"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=48463"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=48463"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=48463"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}