{"id":49824,"date":"2025-08-07T07:20:20","date_gmt":"2025-08-07T07:20:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/49824\/"},"modified":"2025-08-07T07:20:20","modified_gmt":"2025-08-07T07:20:20","slug":"are-direct-water-vapor-emissions-endangering-anyone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/49824\/","title":{"rendered":"Are direct water vapor emissions endangering anyone?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dear moderators,<\/p>\n<p>I appreciate that you opened this topic pertaining to the role of water in Earth climate, although with a narrow (and in my opinion somewhat unfortunate) focus on anthropogenic \u201cwater vapour emissions\u201d. <\/p>\n<p>1) I put this framing in quotes because I think that reduction of anthropogenic interferences with global water cycle and especially with land hydrology to \u201canthropogenic water vapour emissions\u201d is neither possible nor reasonable. <\/p>\n<p>2) I am afraid that discussing \u201d water emissions\u201d from fuel combustion, irrigation (or, e.g. laundry drying :-)) without considering possible (and in my opinion possibly quite significant) \u201cnegative emissions\u201d may be seriously misleading. There may be, and likely were, many possible sources of a such \u201cnegative emissions\u201d, for example: soil destruction, land deforestation, wetland drying, landscape drainage by agricultural meliorations, by river regulations and by building infrastructure that prevents soaking and speeds up runoff.<\/p>\n<p>3) In view of the circumstance that these \u201cnegative emissions\u201d were not mentioned in your post, I am somewhat afraid that they were not considered in the attribution of 4% of the \u201cincrease over background\u201d (Do you mean an increase in average global absolute air humidity?) to \u201cdirect anthropogenic sources\u201d. If so, the attribution would have been very questionable already for this single reason.<\/p>\n<p>4) Moreover, I have a feeling that your post omitted the hint that changes in latent heat flux accompanying \u201cpositive\u201d or \u201cnegative\u201d \u201cwater vapour emissions\u201d could have a significant influence on mean global surface temperature (GMST). As suggest results of a modelling study published by Lague et al<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.1088\/1748-9326\/acdbe1\" rel=\"nofollow ugc noopener\" target=\"_blank\">https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.1088\/1748-9326\/acdbe1<\/a> ,<\/p>\n<p>prevailing \u201cpositive\u201d emissions might cool Earth surface and paradoxically result in global average absolute air humidity decrease, due to lowering water vapour supply from the ocean. Oppositely, in their \u201cdesert land\u201d scenario, lowering water supply from land resulted in a GMST increase that caused global increase in the average absolute air humidity.<\/p>\n<p>5) In view of the preceding remarks, I doubt that discussing \u201cwater vapour\u201d merely as a possible source of greenhouse effect makes a sense. I am afraid that clouds and latent heat flux (both also playing a significant role in Earth surface temperature regulation) are so intricately combined with water vapour formation that all these mechanisms of Earth climate regulation cannot be assessed separately from each other.<\/p>\n<p>6) For all the above reasons, I respectfully disagree with you opinion that (although it is not worth of the effort, because anthropogenic \u201cdirect water vapour emissions\u201d are allegedly small in comparison with \u201cwater vapour feedback\u201d to other anthropogenic climate forcings), \u201cwater vapour\u201d could be, at least \u201cin principle\u201d, legally treated as an air pollutant, the same way as other anthropogenic air pollutants, including carbon dioxide. <\/p>\n<p>7) I think that due to above mentioned complexity, water vapour is significantly different from all other pollutants. I am afraid that even a suggestion that it COULD be legally treated the same way as other pollutants is potentially dangerous, because it may be highly confusing for broad public and it might easily cause a huge legal turmoil.<\/p>\n<p>Could you comment?<\/p>\n<p>Best regards<br \/>Tom\u00e1\u0161<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Dear moderators, I appreciate that you opened this topic pertaining to the role of water in Earth climate,&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":49825,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22],"tags":[64,63,75,128],"class_list":["post-49824","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-environment","tag-au","tag-australia","tag-environment","tag-science"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49824","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=49824"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/49824\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/49825"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=49824"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=49824"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=49824"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}