{"id":565307,"date":"2026-03-26T09:19:10","date_gmt":"2026-03-26T09:19:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/565307\/"},"modified":"2026-03-26T09:19:10","modified_gmt":"2026-03-26T09:19:10","slug":"i-could-hear-my-baby-former-sasr-warrant-officer-reveals-interrogation-training-trauma-after-losing-newborn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/565307\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018I could hear my baby\u2019: Former SASR Warrant Officer reveals interrogation training trauma after losing newborn"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">WARNING: DISTRESSING CONTENT<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">The crying started inside a shipping container.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">The soldier had been forced into a stress position, exhausted after more than 24 hours without sleep and a forced march through rough terrain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-3mk41m-StyledText eze0guv9\">Sign up to The Nightly&#8217;s newsletters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-1r9pdr5-StyledSubText eze0guv8\">Get the first look at the digital newspaper, curated daily stories and breaking headlines delivered to your inbox.<\/p>\n<p>By continuing you agree to our <a href=\"https:\/\/thenightly.com.au\/subscription-terms\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Terms<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/sevenwestmedia.com.au\/privacy-policies\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Privacy Policy<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Loud music blared through speakers. Then another sound cut through the noise.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cThe other noises were of babies crying,\u201d he recalls.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Five months earlier, his infant daughter had died.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad, who grew up in Western Australia, had wanted to join the Australian Defence Force for as long as he could remember.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">At 16, he walked into an ADF recruiting office in Perth determined to join.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">In 1994, days after turning 17, Brad arrived at Kapooka, NSW to begin training. It was the beginning of his 28-year military career.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">After his initial employment training, he was posted to Townsville and then Sydney. By then, he had set his sights on something bigger.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">After five years in Sydney, he applied for selection to the Special Air Service Regiment \u2014 the elite Special Forces unit widely regarded as one of the most coveted postings in the Australian military.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">SAS selection is notoriously gruelling, with only a fraction of applicants completing the course.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad attempted selection at the start of 2004. He passed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">The next stage was an 18-month Reinforcement Employment (REO) cycle designed to prepare them for operational service within the regiment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">There was mention of having to undertake Resistance to Interrogation training.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">The course, run by the ADF\u2019s Intelligence Corps, was intended to prepare soldiers for the possibility of capture by enemy forces.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cWe received one or two lessons in relation to what to expect during RTI training, but they did not go into detail,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cThe training was basically just to give the \u2018big four and no more\u2019.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad left the lesson with a clear takeaway: \u201cThat I did not want to be captured.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad\u2019s revelations came after The Nightly exclusively revealed this week the Defence Force Ombudsman awarded $2.9 million for physical and psychological harm to 59 veterans who went through the training.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Later that year, Brad\u2019s life was turned upside down.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">In September 2004, his beautiful daughter was born.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cShe was a healthy baby,\u201d he said. \u201cAt six weeks old she was diagnosed with Spinal Muscular Atrophy Type 1, a terminal condition.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI immediately stopped my REO training cycle to stay at home and assist with her palliative care. Our daughter passed away at three months of age in late December 2004.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Within weeks, Brad returned to the regiment, throwing himself into work to escape the weight of his grief. Within months, he was directed to undertake RTI training.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">In May 2005, SAS recruits travelled to the Intelligence Corps\u2019 purpose-built interrogation facilities at Canungra, in the Gold Coast hinterland.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">The training began with an exercise designed to induce fatigue.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cWe were forced to march over rough terrain for about 24 hours,\u201d Brad said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">The soldiers were then loaded into trucks and driven to a nearby compound.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cA group of men in balaclavas, with aggressive military dogs, were yelling and screaming at us,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cSome of my colleagues started to fight back; however we were then told that we were not to resist.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">They were ordered to lie on the ground before being restrained. Hessian bags were put over their heads.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">The trainees were forced to navigate a series of challenges to disorient them before being separated into smaller groups for individual processing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Download The Nightly\u2019s FREE news app here for <a class=\"css-hwy1qg-StyledTextLink ezegcyi0\" data-link-type=\"article-inline\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/apps.apple.com\/au\/app\/the-nightly\/id6469956511\">Apple<\/a> or <a class=\"css-hwy1qg-StyledTextLink ezegcyi0\" data-link-type=\"article-inline\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/play.google.com\/store\/apps\/details?id=com.thenightlyau&amp;pcampaignid=web_share\">Android<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad says the \u201cprocessing\u201d stage was designed to \u201cdestroy our dignity\u201d. He was stripped before female staff attacked his \u201cmasculinity and sexuality\u201d. Afterwards he was given a hospital gown, earmuffs and a blindfold.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI was then dragged into a shipping container and seated on a hard, plastic mat,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI was placed in a stress position and was told not to move.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/03\/b53d1c4fdf56970d961f20053f06b28c66fe9f16.jpg\" alt=\"Satellite imagery shows a cluster of buildings within dense bushland near Canungra, Queensland, where interrogation training exercises have been conducted.\" class=\"css-16r7l45-StyledImage en5ut4d0\" loading=\"lazy\"\/>Satellite imagery shows a cluster of buildings within dense bushland near Canungra, Queensland, where interrogation training exercises have been conducted. Credit: Google Maps\/Google Maps<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad had been awake for days when he was put into the shipping container.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cThere was loud music interspersed with other noises,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cThe other noises were of babies crying. There was also a children\u2019s song being played on repeat.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad was severely sleep deprived and his mind started going to \u201cdreadful places\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cThis was the first time that I had been left alone with my thoughts since my daughter had died,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI had done everything I could to keep my mind busy and not think about her death.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cWhen I heard the baby crying, it triggered me. I started seeing and hearing my baby daughter.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Distress quickly overtook him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI started to panic and couldn\u2019t control myself,\u201d he said. \u201cI then started having a major psychotic episode.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad ripped off his goggles and earmuffs, and ran from the container in distress as guards tried to restrain him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI wasn\u2019t having any of it,\u201d he said. \u201cI ran out into the courtyard and was trying to find some way to escape.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI was beyond distressed. I was breaking down.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">The guards appeared unsure how to respond.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cDespite me saying that I needed to see a psychologist, the guards kept on saying that I just needed to go back into the shipping container and they would get me help,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI refused and maintained that I needed to see a psychologist. They instead took me to see the senior officer who was running the training.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">His response stunned Brad.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cAre you sure you don\u2019t want to continue with the training?\u201d the Intelligence Corps boss asked.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad \u201ccouldn\u2019t believe what I was hearing\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI told him that I needed to see a psychologist because I was in trouble,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">He later told a psychologist the sounds had triggered hallucinations of his daughter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI told him I couldn\u2019t deal with it and couldn\u2019t go back into that environment,\u201d he said. Brad felt judged.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cThere was no direct withdrawal from RTI training,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cIt was mentioned that if I withdrew, I would have to re-do it at a later date.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Eventually Brad was sent home alone, waiting hours at the airport before flying back to Perth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI felt shame, remorse and guilt. I was in a dreadful state,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI assumed my career was over as I hadn\u2019t completed the course.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">When he returned home he struggled to leave the house.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI became a hermit,\u201d he said. \u201cIt wasn\u2019t until one of the officers from the regiment came to see me that he understood what had occurred during my training.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cHe told me that the regiment was supportive of me. However, no-one ever apologised for putting me on that course.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad spent months in therapy with an external psychologist before returning to work. By the time he left the ADF, he had risen to the senior rank of warrant officer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">He says the interrogators\u2019 conduct should not have been tolerated.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cIf my men in SASR behaved the way the Intelligence Corps did, there would have been serious consequences,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cAs a result of the RTI training, there was a fair bit of animosity between the regiment and the Intelligence Corps.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Since leaving the ADF, Brad has learned that RTI training was filmed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI am deeply disturbed this was done without consent,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cIt upsets me to think my men were filmed being tortured and in such vulnerable states.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">For decades, Brad did not report what happened.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI believed doing so would have significantly impacted my career,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cThere is a real risk of being ostracised if you speak up.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cI\u2019m reporting it now because I feel comfort that there\u2019s a large group prepared to share their experiences.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">Brad still struggles to describe his experience of RTI training.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cLooking back, I can\u2019t describe it as anything other than really f&#8230;ed up,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">\u201cThere is no way on earth that I should have been put into that environment at that time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-9czhig-StyledParagraph e4e0a020\">If this story causes distress, please seek help:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"WARNING: DISTRESSING CONTENT The crying started inside a shipping container. 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