{"id":59185,"date":"2025-08-11T04:46:24","date_gmt":"2025-08-11T04:46:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/59185\/"},"modified":"2025-08-11T04:46:24","modified_gmt":"2025-08-11T04:46:24","slug":"some-strategists-see-a-stock-bubble-and-its-not-the-mag-7s-fault","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/59185\/","title":{"rendered":"Some Strategists See a Stock Bubble \u2014 and It&#8217;s Not the Mag 7&#8217;s Fault"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Stock valuations are getting frothy again, but this time, it&#8217;s not all Big Tech&#8217;s fault.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, valuations of <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/massive-ai-investment-slowing-economy-recession-stock-market-crash-earnings-2025-6\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">the Magnificent Seven stocks <\/a>\u2014 Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, Meta, Alphabet, Nvidia, and Tesla \u2014 are back up after since bottoming in April. Yet, the group&#8217;s 12-month forward price-to-earnings ratio is still down from mid-2024, mid-2023, and 2020 levels.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, forward PE ratios on the next 20 stocks in the S&amp;P 500 continue to surge, topping levels seen earlier this year. Their valuations are also higher than at any point over the last decade.<\/p>\n<p>Arun Sai, a senior multi-asset strategist at Pictet Asset Management, calls the group the &#8220;Terrific 20.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>              <img xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"lazy-image \" encoding=\"UTF-8\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" data-content-type=\"image\/jpeg\" srcs=\"{&quot;https:\/\/i.insider.com\/688b77d73d5881a51c1e57c8&quot;:{&quot;contentType&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;aspectRatioW&quot;:1044,&quot;aspectRatioH&quot;:591}}\" alt=\"magnificent 7 vs terrific 20\"\/><\/p>\n<p>              Pictet Asset Management<\/p>\n<p>Some may see the rising forward expectations for a widening number of stocks as a sign of health, as the rally extends beyond just the most popular stocks.<\/p>\n<p>But when stocks rise because of <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/stock-market-bubble-ai-dot-com-crash-sp500-tech-valuations-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">multiple expansion<\/a> instead of earnings growth, it may be a sign that investor sentiment is becoming overheated.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;These companies span a broad set of sectors more closely tied to the real economy, including financials, energy, industrials, consumer, and legacy tech,&#8221; Sai wrote on Tuesday. &#8220;Names like Broadcom, Walmart, JPMorgan, Berkshire Hathaway, Visa, and GE Aerospace now account for ~17% of the MSCI US index, compared to 33% for the Mag 7.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Broader participation is a positive \u2014 when it&#8217;s driven by earnings,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;But when more of the market gets expensive, the narrative that &#8216;US equities aren&#8217;t overpriced, just a few exceptional companies are&#8217; becomes harder to justify.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sai compared the current environment to the so-called &#8220;Nifty Fifty&#8221; bubble in the 1960s. <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/stock-market-crash-ai-dot-com-bubble-dividend-investing-bernstein-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Richard Bernstein<\/a>, the founder of Richard Bernstein Advisors and former chief investment strategist at Merrill Lynch, said in June that there are parallels to another famous episode of euphoria\u2014the dot-com bubble of 2000\u2014as the market seems solely focused on an emerging technology.<\/p>\n<p>                      Related stories<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>                                <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazy-image \" viewbox=\"0 0 1 1\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/placeholder.png\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>                            Business Insider tells the innovative stories you want to know<\/p>\n<p>On Wednesday, Bernstein reiterated his skepticism of the rally, noting that the market is still relatively concentrated even if valuations are surging among more than just the top seven stocks. <\/p>\n<p>Trading of <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/leveraged-etfs-zero-day-options-asset-management-industry-becoming-predatory-2025-2\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">leveraged ETFs<\/a>, zero-day options, and low dollar-value stocks is also picking back up, signs of excess optimism, he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re a trader, I think you should take a deep breath and kind of look at what&#8217;s going on and realize that everybody&#8217;s in this huge speculative fervor,&#8221; Bernstein told Business Insider. &#8220;But if you&#8217;re an investor and you want to be a little patient, I don&#8217;t think it gets much better than this.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The reckless abandon is going to leave you with so many opportunities,&#8221; he continued. &#8220;It&#8217;s going to be like post-2000.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Most Wall Street strategists don&#8217;t see a dramatic pullback ahead, and few have made direct comparisons to prior bubble episodes. In recent days, however, some have extended quiet warnings to investors about the market&#8217;s near-term direction.<\/p>\n<p>Ulrike Hoffmann-Burchardi, CIO Americas and global head of equities at UBS Global Wealth Management, said in a note on Tuesday that &#8220;investors should be mindful of potential market swings in the coming weeks,&#8221; and that &#8220;capital preservation or phasing-in strategies can be effective in navigating near-term volatility.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>While valuations are no doubt extended, there&#8217;s no guarantee a major market top is near, and the AI trade may have room to run as the technology evolves.<\/p>\n<p>Meta and Microsoft, for example, <a target=\"_self\" class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/meta-earnings-call-report-stock-live-updates-2025-7\" data-track-click=\"{&quot;element_name&quot;:&quot;body_link&quot;,&quot;event&quot;:&quot;tout_click&quot;,&quot;index&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;,&quot;product_field&quot;:&quot;bi_value_unassigned&quot;}\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">reported strong earnings<\/a> beats this week and gave positive forward guidance, causing shares to soar. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Stock valuations are getting frothy again, but this time, it&#8217;s not all Big Tech&#8217;s fault. 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