{"id":59876,"date":"2025-08-11T11:43:27","date_gmt":"2025-08-11T11:43:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/59876\/"},"modified":"2025-08-11T11:43:27","modified_gmt":"2025-08-11T11:43:27","slug":"aussie-turns-down-1-5b-ai-offer-from-zuckerberg-information-age","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/59876\/","title":{"rendered":"Aussie turns down $1.5b AI offer from Zuckerberg | Information Age"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t    <img decoding=\"async\" id=\"ctl00_ContentPlaceHolder1_ucArticle_imgImage\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/zuck oakley glasses andrew tulloch.jpg\" alt=\"Main image Mark Zuckerberg wearing glasses, and inset Andrew Tulloch.\" style=\"border-width:0px;width:820px;\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Aussie Andrew Tulloch (inset) turned reportedly down a billion-dollar offer from Meta&#8217;s Mark Zuckerberg. Photo: Instagram \/ LinkedIn<\/p>\n<p>An Australian AI researcher has reportedly turned down a $1.54 billion dollar package from Meta chief executive Mark Zuckerberg.<\/p>\n<p>University of Sydney graduate and Perth native Andrew Tulloch accrued a reputation as a \u2018genius\u2019 during a ten-year tenure at Meta, where he initially worked on machine learning for Facebook before eventually securing one of the company\u2019s most technical roles as a \u201cdistinguished engineer\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Tulloch jumped ship to OpenAI in 2023, where he stayed for just over a year before joining the company\u2019s former chief technology officer Mira Murati to form AI research outfit Thinking Machines Lab.<\/p>\n<p>According to Murati, Thinking Machines has attracted at least $3.08 billion (US$2 billion) from investors and was valued at $18.53 billion (US$12 billion) in its <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/technology\/mira-muratis-ai-startup-thinking-machines-raises-2-billion-a16z-led-round-2025-07-15\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">first round of funding<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Such investment, however, has also attracted the attention of Zuckerberg, who recently undertook what the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/tech\/ai\/meta-zuckerberg-ai-recruiting-fail-e6107555\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Wall Street Journal<\/a> described as a \u201cfull-scale raid\u201d of employee poaching after Murati refused to sell her startup to him.<\/p>\n<p>And Tulloch \u2013 now a co-founder and leading researcher at the startup \u2013 was Zuckerberg\u2019s \u201cchief target\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Zuckerberg reportedly presented the Australian engineer with an employment package worth $1.54 billion ($US1 billion).<\/p>\n<p>People familiar with the matter told the Wall Street Journal when bonuses and stock performance were factored in, the package could have been worth more than $2.31 billion (US$1.5 billion) over at least six years.<\/p>\n<p>The mammoth offer was reportedly turned down by Tulloch, while Zuckerberg\u2019s headhunting yielded fully zero hires from Thinking Machines.<\/p>\n<p>Not an unusual offer<\/p>\n<p>In a statement given to Information Age, a Meta spokesperson disputed that Tulloch received an offer which was worth $1.54 billion.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe description of the offer is inaccurate and ridiculous,\u201d they said.<\/p>\n<p>In 2007, Tulloch graduated Christ Church Grammar in Claremont in Western Australia with an ATAR of 99.95.<\/p>\n<p>In 2011, he went on to achieve first class honours, a university medal in mathematics and the highest GPA in the Faculty of Science at the University of Sydney.<\/p>\n<p>Tulloch later completed a master\u2019s degree in mathematical statistics and machine learning at the UK\u2019s University of Cambridge, while Mike Vernal, a former Facebook executive who worked with Tulloch, told the Wall Street Journal the Australian researcher had become \u201cknown as an extreme genius\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Despite his accolades, Toby Walsh, chief scientist of the University of New South Wales AI Institute and a member of the ACS AI and Ethics committee, told Information Age Tulloch\u2019s reported offer might not be an outlier.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are a lot of \u2018acqui-hires\u2019 going on at the moment which are worth billions of dollars,\u201d said Walsh.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn that sense, it\u2019s in line with much of what\u2019s happening in the industry.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNot to mention, Andrew is a co-founder of Thinking Machines \u2013 he could have 10 or 20 per cent equity in the company which he\u2019d have to sacrifice for the offer,\u201d said Walsh.<\/p>\n<p>Walsh emphasised such equity could be \u201cworth billions at this point\u201d, while Zuckerberg\u2019s reported attempt to acquire Thinking Machines could have been worth between US$10 billion and US$20 billion in of itself.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/meta logo silhouettes shutterstock.jpg\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Meta is said to be playing catchup in the AI race. Photo: Shutterstock<\/p>\n<p>On <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/miramurati\/status\/1945166365834535247\" rel=\"nofollow\">X<\/a>, Murati said Thinking Machines was \u201cbuilding multimodal AI that works with how you naturally interact with the world\u201d and would share its first product \u201cin the next couple months\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Notably, Thinking Machines\u2019 website initially listed and linked to online profiles for all 39 of its founding team members, though this section of the website was quietly removed in early July.<\/p>\n<p>Meta playing catchup<\/p>\n<p>Speaking with Wall Street Journal, Meta spokesperson Andy Stone said the company was not interested in acquiring Thinking Machines.<\/p>\n<p>Notably, Meta has poached <a href=\"https:\/\/ia.acs.org.au\/article\/2025\/meta-spends--staggering--amounts-poaching-openai-talent.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">at least ten of OpenAI\u2019s researchers<\/a>, while more than 20 OpenAI researchers <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/technology\/artificial-intelligence\/former-openai-technology-chief-mira-muratis-ai-startup-taps-top-researchers-2025-02-18\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">followed Murati<\/a> when she launched Thinking Machines in February.<\/p>\n<p>Though Meta only last year <a href=\"https:\/\/ai.meta.com\/blog\/meta-llama-3\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">boasted<\/a> having the \u201cmost capable\u201d open source large language model in the AI race, Walsh said Meta\u2019s Llama is not \u201cby far the best model anymore\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo one seems to have a clear lead on anyone else,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf you look at what&#8217;s happened so far, there are a dozen or more competitive foundational language models.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI imagine [Meta] is playing catchup.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Walsh said OpenAI \u201cseems to have captured the public\u2019s attention\u201d with ChatGPT receiving 2.5 billion prompts a day, while research lab Anthropic\u2019s AI models seemed to be \u201cgaining a lot of the corporate market.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Zuckerberg, Musk and OpenAI\u2019s chief executive Sam Altman have also maintained competing ambitions to achieve human-level <a href=\"https:\/\/ia.acs.org.au\/article\/2024\/zuckerberg-announces-plans-for-human-level-ai.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">artificial general intelligence<\/a> \u2013 something that would secure a marked lead in the AI industry.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt makes some financial sense for Zuckerberg to be making these outrageous offers \u2013 and they are quite outrageous,\u201d said Walsh.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn other circumstances, I\u2019m not sure that anyone\u2019s worth a billion dollars for a year\u2019s work, even if they are a genius.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Aussie Andrew Tulloch (inset) turned reportedly down a billion-dollar offer from Meta&#8217;s Mark Zuckerberg. 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