{"id":709182,"date":"2026-06-01T23:03:12","date_gmt":"2026-06-01T23:03:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/709182\/"},"modified":"2026-06-01T23:03:12","modified_gmt":"2026-06-01T23:03:12","slug":"the-impact-of-australia-only-buying-second-hand-us-submarines-under-aukus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/709182\/","title":{"rendered":"The impact of Australia only buying second-hand US submarines under AUKUS"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Under the initial AUKUS agreement, Australia was set to receive two used Virginia-class nuclear-powered submarines from the United States, plus one new model as early as 2032.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">But the plan has changed and now all three submarines will be second-hand, <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2026-05-31\/australia-to-buy-second-hand-united-states-submarines-aukus\/106742496\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/106742496\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a decision Defence Minister Richard Marles said would save &#8220;significant&#8221;<\/a> amounts of money and simplify fleet training and maintenance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The Virginia-class vessels are part of a stopgap phase to boost the Royal Australian Navy&#8217;s capabilities until the first AUKUS-class nuclear-powered submarines start arriving from about 2042.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Some analysts have been critical of the pivot, questioning whether relying on used submarines would reduce Australia&#8217;s naval capabilities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">But others say the older fleet could work in Australia&#8217;s favour.<\/p>\n<p>How old is old?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Under the original plan, the US was selling Australia two &#8220;used but refurbished&#8221; Block IV Virginia-class submarines.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2026-05-31\/australia-to-buy-second-hand-united-states-submarines-aukus\/106742496\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Australia scraps new Virginia-class submarines in AUKUS shake-up<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">The US, UK and Australia have announced they will &#8220;streamline&#8221; the purchase, with Australia no longer buying any new submarines, and acquiring three second-hand submarines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The third was intended to be a newer <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2023-11-09\/aukus-submarine-sales-timelines-revealed\/103083780\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/103083780\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Virginia-class model straight from the production line.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">But now the purchase would be streamlined and all three would &#8220;be of the same type&#8221;, Mr Marles said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;I cannot overstate the significance of that, both in terms of the submariners who are operating them, but also the people who are working on them to sustain those submarines,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Three men in suits and ties walk together outside with happy expressions\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/54fbbd5079f5271432e01ce8d975e0ea.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Richard Marles (centre) announced the AUKUS changes alongside John Healey (right) and Pete Hegseth in Singapore.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0 (Reuters: Edgar Su)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Marcus Hellyer, head of research at defence think tank Strategic Analysis Australia, said there had been a lot of &#8220;hand wringing&#8221; about acquiring older vessels.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">But the Block IV submarines only started entering service between 2020 and 2026, with the remainder of the fleet set to be finished by next year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;These are the boats the US is currently finishing, so they&#8217;re not old in a sense of old,&#8221; Dr Hellyer told the ABC.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re just old in that they will already have been in service.&#8221;<img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A man with grey hair and a beard, wearing a blue shirt and navy jacket, looking ahead.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/9dbb9a00c7bbc897b4d0be57c6436891.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Marcus Hellyer does not believe Australia&#8217;s submarine capabilities will be compromised without a new Virginia-class vessel.\u00a0 (ABC News: Ian Cutmore)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The average life span of the Block IV submarines is about 33 years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The first one is expected to arrive in Australia in 2032, with the additional vessels being delivered at intervals until 2038.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The first two boats would be refurbished ahead of delivery, with about 23 years of life remaining, according to the AUKUS plan outlined by the government in 2023.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;They will be 10 years old maybe, which for a boat with a 30 to 35-year life span, we&#8217;re not talking about old clunkers that are at the end of their life,&#8221; Dr Hellyer said.<\/p>\n<p>What capabilities does Australia need?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Virginia-class submarines are the latest class of nuclear-powered fast-attack submarines in service with the US Navy.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2026-06-01\/richard-marles-says-aukus-deal-unchanged-submarine-buy\/106743696\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Australia could still buy five US submarines if needed, Marles says<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Australia&#8217;s defence minister has defended a shake-up to AUKUS that would involve Australia buying three second-hand Virginia-class submarines from the United States.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The Block IV models were developed to replace the aging Los Angeles-class submarines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">They were designed for a wide range of missions, including anti-submarine warfare, intelligence gathering and strike operations using Tomahawk cruise missiles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The Block IV also has improved acoustic stealth capabilities, making them harder to detect by enemy forces.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;The Block IV is arguably the best submarine in the world right now,&#8221; said Jennifer Parker, maritime security expert at The Australian National University National Security College.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Woman in a navy suit standing on a bridge.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/dbabc434327b0b1c981509059ff2734e.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Jennifer Parker is positive about the fleet of three Block IV Virginia-class submarines.\u00a0 (ABC News: Callum Flinn)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The third, new submarine Australia had planned to buy from the US was either going to be a Block\u00a0V or <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2023-11-09\/aukus-submarine-sales-timelines-revealed\/103083780\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/103083780\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Block VII Virginia-class<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">A main feature of the Block V is the longer length, which increased the number of launch cells used for weapons such as Tomahawk cruise missiles.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;There is a big difference in terms of the land attack capability, because Block V has 40 cells against only 12,&#8221; Dr Hellyer said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">But that was a capability Australia did not necessarily need.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">He said it was more useful for America &#8220;because as we&#8217;ve seen, they just love launching lots of cruise missiles into countries they don&#8217;t like&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Beyond attack capabilities, submarines are used for intelligence and reconnaissance, anti-submarine warfare and special forces insertion.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2023-11-09\/aukus-submarine-sales-timelines-revealed\/103083780\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">US admiral outlines first AUKUS submarine sale<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">The first newly built nuclear-powered submarined can be expected to be sold to Australia in 2038, according to a senior US naval officer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;The biggest tasks for Australian submarines \u2026 regardless of what type of submarine we&#8217;re talking about, is submarine warfare,&#8221; Dr Hellyer said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;So to find and kill the other guys&#8217; submarines.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Ms Parker, who is a former naval officer, agreed that needing a submarine with a larger range of land attack missiles was not a priority for Australia.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;If I was actually looking at how we employ these submarines, I would be employing them predominantly in the Pacific and the Indian Ocean in an anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare role,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;So to find and sink warships and for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Several crew members walk on top of a submerged, docked submarine.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/adc9e80590f16548e038bc0da58903b7.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">A US Navy officer walks on the Virginia-class fast-attack submarine USS Minnesota. (Reuters: Colin Murty\/Pool)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">In 2023, the US commander of submarine forces, Vice Admiral Bill Houston, said the new Virginia-class submarines being sold to Australia would likely be the Block VII.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Ms Parker said not a lot was known about the model, except it did not have the additional payload length.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;That was almost a mythical submarine, the design of which doesn&#8217;t exist and they haven&#8217;t started building it,&#8221; she said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;We always thought that the third submarine would be a new build, but beyond that we never actually knew what capabilities it would have.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Timing could get risky<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Until the AUKUS fleet arrives, Australia is extending the use of 30-year-old Collins-class submarines, keeping the six boats in the water for an extra 10 years.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2026-05-23\/why-theres-more-talk-of-an-aukus-plan-b\/106705426\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Why there&#8217;s more talk of an AUKUS &#8216;plan B&#8217;<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Defence industry experts argue Australia should consider how to prevent a naval &#8220;capability gap&#8221; \u2014 or risk being left exposed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;We had the prospect \u2026 of almost having four classes of submarines operating at the same time \u2014 the last of the Collins class, two in-service Virginias, a brand new Virginia, and a brand new SSN-AUKUS. That gets pretty complicated,&#8221; Mr Marles said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;What we will have here is a simpler pathway.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Ms Parker said it would be beneficial to operate three of the same Virginia-class submarines instead of bringing another model into the mix.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;When you look at operating the same type of boat with the same type of systems on board, that means you reduce the workforce needed for the training,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I actually think this is a much more positive development.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">The downside would be there are <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2026-06-01\/richard-marles-says-aukus-deal-unchanged-submarine-buy\/106743696\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/106743696\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">fewer years available to operate the second-hand fleet.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A submarine moves through the water towards the camera, in the day time. The shoreline can be seen in the distance.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/ff694fef9a08f665897995c0abb94442.jpeg\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Australia is extending the use of 30-year-old Collins-class submarines. (ABC TV: Four Corners)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Ms Parker said that would only be an issue if <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2026-04-23\/shipbuilding-contract-delays-could-affect-aukus-submarines\/106596728\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/106596728\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">there were significant delays to the delivery<\/a> of the first SSN AUKUS-class submarines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">Australia is expected to be operating its first AUKUS-class submarine in the early 2040s, and then the plan is to deliver one every three years until the final three are completed in the 2060s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;The first Virginia will probably retire in the early 50s and the next one in the mid-50s,&#8221; Dr Hellyer said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph___QITb\">&#8220;We have to remember that in the big picture of AUKUS, the Virginias are only a kind of transition stage \u2026 they&#8217;re not a long-term solution.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Under the initial AUKUS agreement, Australia was set to receive two used Virginia-class nuclear-powered submarines from the United&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":626908,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[64,3402,63,242927,344854,344855,44,326897,3406,99185,303357],"class_list":["post-709182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-australia","tag-au","tag-aukus","tag-australia","tag-jennifer-parker","tag-marcus-hellyer","tag-new-plan-for-aukus-subs","tag-news","tag-nuclear-submarines","tag-richard-marles","tag-submarines","tag-virginia-class"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/709182","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=709182"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/709182\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/626908"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=709182"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=709182"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=709182"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}