{"id":712323,"date":"2026-06-03T09:59:30","date_gmt":"2026-06-03T09:59:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/712323\/"},"modified":"2026-06-03T09:59:30","modified_gmt":"2026-06-03T09:59:30","slug":"anthropic-ipo-daniela-amodei-opens-up-on-ai-and-mythos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/712323\/","title":{"rendered":"Anthropic IPO: Daniela Amodei opens up on AI and Mythos"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\tPublished on\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\tJune 2, 2026\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>Exclusive:\u00a0In the lead-up to its IPO, Anthropic President and co-founder Daniela Amodei talks to\u00a0Forbes Australia\u00a0about containing its new model, Mythos, and why the frontier lab is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/innovation\/inside-the-anthropic-x-australia-alliance-what-the-550-billion-ai-giant-wants-from-canberra\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">anchoring in Australia.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"681\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/GettyImages-2274306310.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-191684\"  \/>Daniela Amodei, President and co-founder of Anthropic. Image: Getty<\/p>\n<p>Daniela Amodei appears on screen from San Francisco with an expansive, chatty warmth that cuts against the Silicon Valley stereotype. Having reported on California and its technocrats for two decades, it\u2019s a rarity to encounter a leader who beams in with such presence.<\/p>\n<p>Amodei is President and co-founder of Anthropic, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/investing\/anthropic-confidentially-files-for-its-highly-anticipated-ipo\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a soon-to-IPO AI safety and research lab<\/a> now facing a complex operational challenge. The company has built what internal benchmarks indicate is the most advanced computational intelligence on earth, yet for now, it is actively keeping the Mythos model under lock and key.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe want to do it the right way. It\u2019s going to be really complicated. It\u2019s gonna be confusing. It\u2019s going to be\u2026 there\u2019s not really anything that\u2019s ever been done like this before,\u201d Amodei tells\u00a0Forbes Australia, framing the core philosophy that governs the lab\u2019s deployment choices.<\/p>\n<p>The unreleased frontier model <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/innovation\/anthropic-is-talking-to-u-s-government-about-mythos-despite-tensions\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Mythos<\/a> represents a major shift in autonomous AI capabilities, particularly within the domain of cybersecurity. Rather than immediately deploying it in the public market to maximise commercial returns, Anthropic has initiated a restricted, staggered rollout -and placed Australia as a central pillar in the global effort to safely and effectively govern AI.<\/p>\n<p>The commitment to doing it \u2018the right way\u2019 carries real weight given the timing. The interview took place just 10 days before Anthropic officially filed its highly anticipated S-1 statement with the SEC, shedding light on the regulatory and corporate governance calculations happening behind closed doors immediately prior to announcing the IPO.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/investing\/anthropic-confidentially-files-for-its-highly-anticipated-ipo\/\" class=\"article-card__image-link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"684\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/GettyImages-2259733131.jpg\" class=\"attachment-1600x900 size-1600x900\" alt=\"\"  \/>\t\t<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/investing\/anthropic-confidentially-files-for-its-highly-anticipated-ipo\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\tAnthropic confidentially files for its highly anticipated IPO\t\t\t<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Public benefit architecture <\/p>\n<p>The Australian approach to tech, Amodei says, encapsulates what Anthropic is all about.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHopefully, it\u2019s not overly presumptuous or too much of a reach, but I think the concept of a public benefit corporation feels very Australian to me. It\u2019s this concept, it\u2019s this kind of intersection of\u2026 being a commercial entity is not in and of itself bad. Capitalism is not in and of itself evil. It\u2019s just that you have to have a balance, you know, commercial interests with the public benefit.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The 38-year-old former OpenAI executive references the pioneering Australian approach to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/innovation\/australias-under16s-social-media-ban-begins-today\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">regulating social media<\/a> as indicative of appropriately restrained capitalism. Unlike traditional technology conglomerates structured exclusively around maximising stakeholder returns, Amodei, her brother and CEO Dario, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/billionaires\/fortunes-of-anthropics-seven-cofounders-more-than-double-to-16-6-billion-each\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">their five fellow co-founders <\/a>not only incorporated Anthropic as a Public Benefit Corporation, they also plan on keeping it that way.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/GettyImages-2235057548.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-191688\"  \/>Anthropic co-founder and CEO Dario Amodei. Image: Getty<\/p>\n<p>Like many companies in the US, Anthropic, which is headquartered in San Francisco, is registered in the US state of Delaware. Unlike many companies, however, it is legally registered as a Public Benefit Corporation (PBC). <\/p>\n<p>According to academic reports, less than one per cent of US corporations are PBC entities. Once Anthropic is a public company, that ratio diminishes even further. Only about two dozen organisations operate as publicly traded PBCs. While the model is rare, it has been successfully implemented by globally recognised brands that have transitioned through an IPO without sacrificing their dual mandate. Prominent examples include the digital education giant\u00a0Coursera, which provides online learning and university partnerships worldwide, and\u00a0digital insurance organisation Lemonade.<\/p>\n<p>What sets PBC\u2019s apart is that in a standard C-corporation, directors are bound by a rigid fiduciary duty to maximise shareholder value; if a board deliberately depresses profits to chase a social goal, shareholders can sue them for a breach of that duty. A PBC fundamentally disrupts this math by creating a mandatory legal balancing act. Under state laws, directors are legally required to balance the financial interests of stockholders alongside the specific public benefit defined in their charter.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019ve always said from day one, we have to balance the public benefit. Legally, we\u2019re actually required to do that and there will be constraints on us, whether we\u2019re public or private,\u201d says Amodei. \u201cBoth in the structure and how we have communicated what Anthropic values are, it offsets a little bit of this expectation that the only thing we\u2019re created to do is make money.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Instead, the mandate that Anthropic is held to is to, according to its Delaware Certificate of Incorporation, is to \u201cresponsibly develop and maintain advanced AI for the long-term benefit of humanity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Australian alignment<\/p>\n<p>On the legal side, the executive tasked with structuring the IPO is Jeff Bleich, Anthropic\u2019s California-living General Counsel, who has a deep connection to our nation. Bleich was the US Ambassador to Australia during the Obama administration, and was in Canberra meeting with government officials the day we spoke with Amodei.<\/p>\n<p>The region is important to Anthropic because we have shown willingness to institute guardrails, she says.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/GettyImages-2207039674.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-191686\"  \/>Anthropic\u2019s Daniela Amodei and Snapchat founder Evan Spiegel. Image: Getty<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe model of how Australia has approached social media is one of the reasons we\u2019re so excited to have an office there and to work very closely with the Australian government. You have been very impressive leaders in wanting to say, look, it\u2019s not that this stuff is inherently bad, but it needs some bumpers, right? It needs some guardrails.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Which makes it an ideal operational testing ground for Anthropic\u2019s safety-oriented DNA.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe importance of developing this technology in a strong democracy \u2013 a place where people have the right to use their voice in representative government to express what they think is the right way to handle a technology like this \u2013 is very important to us. Australia is a leader in that set of values,\u201d says Amodei.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/innovation\/anthropic-to-open-sydney-office-as-claude-usage-booms\/\" class=\"article-card__image-link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1350\" height=\"900\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/GettyImages-2159671948-1.jpg\" class=\"attachment-1600x900 size-1600x900\" alt=\"\"  \/>\t\t<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/news\/innovation\/anthropic-to-open-sydney-office-as-claude-usage-booms\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><br \/>\n\t\t\t\tAnthropic to open Sydney office as Claude usage booms\t\t\t<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The dual-use realities of \u2018Mythos\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Operational \u2018bumpers\u2019 have already been implemented in the rollout of\u00a0Mythos. Amodei explains that internal evaluations showed the system can accelerate biomedical research applications, and revealed dual-use capabilities in cybersecurity.<\/p>\n<p>Testing confirmed that Mythos can autonomously identify software vulnerabilities and implement defensive patches, as well as the inverse.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe do a lot of safety testing on our models, and one of the first things that we observed about Mythos is that it has these very powerful cybersecurity capabilities. And in some ways, that\u2019s very good for cyber defenders, because if someone were to launch a cyber attack, Mythos is very good at detecting it and patching vulnerabilities.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>Amodei is clear-eyed, however, about the downside of giving an AI model significant power to autonomise.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCyber is a dual-use technology. So what that meant was, it\u2019s also very good at cyber warfare. And so, we decided that we can\u2019t put this into general availability right now, because we believe it\u2019s going to cause a lot of problems in the world if we do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/GettyImages-2278648727.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-191694\"  \/>Anthropic President Daniela Amodei speaks during the Snowflake Summit. Image: Getty<\/p>\n<p>Consequently, Anthropic has blocked general public access to the software. The current rollout is restricted  to select commercial enterprises, financial infrastructure institutions, and democratic government agencies. Amodei states that the containment policy is designed to give defensive networks a head start before equivalent capabilities are introduced widely by competitors.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur worry is, if it were available to everybody, there is potential for a rogue actor to pick it up and use it for cyber warfare against a state, against a financial institution to hack credit card information, or to try to bring down critical infrastructure.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAll of those things are possible. Not to be dystopian and scary, but cyber warfare is, unfortunately, incredibly prevalent now.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Daniela Amodei<\/p>\n<p>For the Northern California-born founder, the strict containment of\u00a0Mythos\u00a0is driven by an acute awareness of recent tech history. The danger, she notes, is that the market will default to treating frontier AI with the same hands-off, laissez-faire approach that characterised the early days of Web 2.0, trapping developers in toxic incentive loops.<\/p>\n<p>Preventing that downward trajectory operates in direct tension with typical market pressures, where artificial intelligence developers face intense commercial incentives to deploy software rapidly. This was a part of what led to her and Dario\u2019s departure from OpenAI late in 2020.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cFor the 7 co-founders, rather than running away from something, we were running towards something. The idea that you could build an organisation where the goals of it were just fundamentally different\u2026 This core vision that we want to do it the right way,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>As Anthropic prepares to cross the threshold into the public markets, the ultimate test of this corporate experiment begins. Whether Wall Street\u2019s capital structure can truly tolerate the moral fortitude required to suppress a product like\u00a0Mythos\u00a0remains an open question. But for Amodei, who, alongside her brother, now also sits on the board of directors that governs the PBC, navigating the dual-use realities of frontier systems requires unyielding commitment to both humanity and governance.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is not just about building something to enrich ourselves alone, right? The goal is to build this in a way that\u2019s good for everybody. And that is nuanced, because the technology itself is nuanced in what it can do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Forbes Women\u00a0is a global network of female business owners, entrepreneurs and changemakers. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com.au\/women\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up to Forbes Women here.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Published on June 2, 2026 Exclusive:\u00a0In the lead-up to its IPO, Anthropic President and co-founder Daniela Amodei talks&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":712324,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[256,2729,254,255,64,63,99,1874,5476,3324,105,5571],"class_list":["post-712323","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-ai","tag-anthropic","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-au","tag-australia","tag-business","tag-entrepreneurs","tag-investing","tag-productivity","tag-technology","tag-workplace"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/712323","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=712323"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/712323\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/712324"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=712323"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=712323"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=712323"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}