{"id":79167,"date":"2025-08-19T05:39:08","date_gmt":"2025-08-19T05:39:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/79167\/"},"modified":"2025-08-19T05:39:08","modified_gmt":"2025-08-19T05:39:08","slug":"meg-washington-on-her-new-album-gem-and-collaborating-with-paul-kelly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/79167\/","title":{"rendered":"Meg Washington on her new album Gem and collaborating with Paul Kelly"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Meg Washington has been thinking a lot about why she makes music.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">On the cusp of 40, she has become a fixture in Australian music and culture over the course of her almost-20-year career.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">An ARIA winner with her very first record, 2010&#8217;s I Believe You Liar, she&#8217;s been the voice of Bluey&#8217;s teacher Calypso since 2018, and last year co-wrote the <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2024-12-01\/how-to-make-gravy-movie-paul-kelly-hugo-weaving-interview\/104654220\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">movie based on the classic Paul Kelly song, How to Make Gravy<\/a>, with her husband, director Nick Waterman.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I love having a million different things happening and I love learning,&#8221; she tells Zan Rowe on Double J&#8217;s Take 5.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I love learning new ways to be creative.&#8221;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/programs\/take-5\/meg-washington-take-5\/105628150\" data-component=\"FullBleedLink\" class=\"RelatedCard_link__rsgR9 FullBleedLink_root__lTw_U interactive_focusContext__yRhc_ interactive_defaults__AKxUU FullBleedLink_showVisited__g3Xvz\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Hear Meg Washington Take 5 with Zan Rowe<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP RelatedCard_synopsis__cFwMW Typography_sizeMobile14__u7TGe Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Washington conjured a treasure island writing new album, Gem. She takes you through her &#8220;oasis&#8221; songs for her Take 5.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">But even with all her successes, Washington has been wondering lately: &#8220;Why make music in capitalism? Especially when it&#8217;s no longer your only gig?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">There was one answer she kept coming back to.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Because it&#8217;s in my nature. If I was on a desert island all by myself and there was nobody to listen to me, I would still sing because I&#8217;m there,&#8221; she says, with a laugh.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">That&#8217;s a feeling the singer-songwriter tried to capture in one of the songs <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/doublej\/featured-music\/feature-albums1\/meg-washington-gem-feature-album-review\/105659920\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/105659920\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">off her latest album, Gem<\/a>, &#8216;Honeysuckle Island&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">In it, she sings: &#8220;It&#8217;s all or nothing.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">As she tells Rowe: &#8220;I really do think that you have to completely surrender to the mission. You can&#8217;t half try.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Gem \u2014 which is Meg backwards \u2014 is Washington&#8217;s first album of original music since she left her major label and went independent a few years ago.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Striking out on her own led her to reflect on what it means to be a musician.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Meg Washington, a woman in her late 30s with long brown hair and wearing a sparkling dress, performs on stage, her arms out.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/bfbdedc06ab2cf9d9ea028fdbf6dc2f6\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Gem exposes Meg Washington&#8217;s dreams and aspirations. (Supplied: Batflower Records\/Michelle Pitiris)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I had to renew my vows to myself and to &#8216;The Muse&#8217; and whatever my art practice means to me,&#8221; she says.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;[And] it means the same thing now that it did when I was 14.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;[Now] I&#8217;m kind of showing up, in a [way] that before I didn&#8217;t really feel like I had the capacity to.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Polishing a Gem<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Washington approached making Gem, her fifth album, a bit differently to her previous records.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;In the past, my songwriting&#8217;s been very autobiographical,&#8221; she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">But writing deeply personal songs \u2014 about, for instance, a <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2014-07-07\/megan-washington-singer-songwriter-embraces-stutter\/5573250\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">broken engagement<\/a> for her second album There There \u2014 can have unintended consequences: Washington found herself &#8220;re-embodying&#8221; difficult emotions night after night on stage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;[On Gem] I wanted to write what I wanted to happen, not what was actually happening,&#8221; Washington says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;[I got to] sing about things that felt good.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"An album cover of Gem by Meg Washington, featuring a portrait of the singer, a 39-year-old woman, overlaid on a beach at sunset.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/7302d9a6b7a2ec4afea35958fcfd090c\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Meg Washington says Gem was like a place that she created in the songwriting process. (Supplied: Batflower Records)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">But it wasn&#8217;t just the lyrics that Washington wrote from a fresh perspective; it was also her music.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">While in the past she might have thought \u2014 even subconsciously \u2014 about how to get her song on the radio, Washington approached Gem with no such expectations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Instead, she wanted every song to use live instrumentation \u2014 &#8220;There are no machines in the music&#8221; \u2014 to build a stripped-back &#8220;landscape of a world&#8221;, which she has described as a &#8220;tropical fantasy beach world&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Washington told ABC News Breakfast earlier this month: &#8220;[Gem] is a concept album that I wrote about being on a treasure island.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Loading&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Historically, I&#8217;ve always populated my songs really densely with stuff: information, chords, lyrics, things, images, blah, blah, blah,&#8221; Washington explains.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;There&#8217;s always a &#8216;big sing&#8217;. There&#8217;s always a huge note in the bridge. Every song has got so much in it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;When I was writing this record, I was really conscious of having enough space in the music to enjoy myself and for the audience to enjoy themselves too.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;[I wanted] to have the record be like a church or like a quiet place to go.&#8221;Meg Washington&#8217;s Take 5 songs:Sade \u2014 &#8216;No Ordinary Love&#8217;The Bangles \u2014 &#8216;Eternal Flame&#8217;Kevin Morby \u2014 &#8216;Harlem River&#8217;Eugenio Bennato \u2014 &#8216;Ogni uno&#8217;The Roches \u2014 &#8216;Hammond Song&#8217;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">That&#8217;s something she was able to do with the assistance of her singing teacher \u2014 the same one she&#8217;s had throughout her life \u2014 who helped her with her technique.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;As I&#8217;ve gotten older, my voice has really mellowed,&#8221; Washington says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I used to push a lot of air through all the time, but now I&#8217;ve learnt how to close my folds.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;Over the last five or so years, I&#8217;ve really found just singing to myself, with myself, really unlocked a new relationship to my voice.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Instead of being a musically complex album based on her experiences, Gem then is both a manifestation, and a statement of intent.<\/p>\n<p>Making gravy with Paul Kelly<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">One of the clearest examples of that manifestation is on album closer &#8216;Fine&#8217;, featuring Paul Kelly.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Meg Washington, a woman in her late 30s with wet hair, stands on a beach at sunset, wearing a blue button-down shirt.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/c6abfadf37ac710197ccb6a21947110e\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Meg Washington says Gem is a concept album that she wrote about being on a treasure island. (Supplied: Batflower Records)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">In the song, Washington and Kelly declare: &#8220;I&#8217;m the reason that I sing,&#8221; and &#8220;I&#8217;ve been looking at the future and everything&#8217;s gonna be fine.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8216;Fine&#8217; also appears in the movie How to Make Gravy, as sung by a choir of prisoners, including Brendan Maclean. It won Washington, Maclean and the choir an AACTA Award for Best Original Song.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;I was writing it in the apartment at the same time that we were writing the film,&#8221; Washington recalls.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;We were looking for a song for the choir to sing in the movie and I was tying myself into knots and ribbons trying to figure out what they would sing about and what it would be and what it would say.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Waterman suggested using &#8216;Fine&#8217; in the movie, leading Washington to think about what the song would mean from an inmate&#8217;s perspective.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;[It&#8217;s] the same sentiment: an affirmation to the future,&#8221; she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Things came full circle when, on December 21, or <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2024-12-21\/what-is-gravy-day-how-to-make-gravy-paul-kelly\/104754246\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Gravy Day<\/a>, last year, Washington was playing a gig in Melbourne, and Kelly joined her on stage to sing &#8216;Fine&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It just was awesome to sing together,&#8221; she says.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It felt really natural for him to be the other voice on this [album] version of it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"A black-and-white photo of Megan Washington, a woman in her late 30s, with Paul Kelly, 70, his arm around her.\" class=\"Image_image__5tFYM ContentImage_image__DQ_cq\"  src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/c650985c723a5f355ab41c9c79712abf\" loading=\"lazy\" data-component=\"Image\" data-lazy=\"true\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"Typography_base__sj2RP FigureCaption_text__zDxQ5 Typography_sizeMobile12__w_FPC Typography_lineHeightMobile20___U7Vr Typography_regular__WeIG6 Typography_colourInherit__dfnUx\" data-component=\"Typography\">Meg Washington says having Paul Kelly feature on the album version of Fine just brought everything home. (Supplied: Batflower Records)<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Writing songs was a respite for Washington while she was making How to Make Gravy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;It was a familiar place in which I kind of know what to do,&#8221; she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">It also gave her the opportunity to reconnect with her raison d&#8217;\u00eatre; that thing she&#8217;d be doing on a desert island.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;For the first time, the garden was a garden again,&#8221; she says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">&#8220;When you start making your passion your career, you turn the garden into a factory and other people come and work there. And it can be sort of gnarly.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But with this record, there was nobody else. And it was just a peaceful, quiet sanctuary that I just loved dwelling in.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Hear Meg Washington&#8217;s full interview with Zan Rowe on the <a class=\"Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/programs\/take-5\" data-component=\"Link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Take 5 podcast<\/a> and ABC listen app.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Gem, which is <a class=\"Link_link__kR0xA Link_link__5eL5m ScreenReaderOnly_srLinkHint__OysWz Link_showVisited__C1Fea Link_showFocus__ALyv2\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/listen\/doublej\/featured-music\/feature-albums1\/meg-washington-gem-feature-album-review\/105659920\" data-component=\"Link\" data-uri=\"coremedia:\/\/article\/105659920\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Double J&#8217;s Feature Album<\/a>, is out now.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph_paragraph__iYReA\">Meg Washington&#8217;s Gem tour kicks off at the Ian Potter Centre for Performing Arts, Melbourne, on October 10, before heading to Sydney and Brisbane.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Meg Washington has been thinking a lot about why she makes music. 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