{"id":803691,"date":"2026-07-16T09:57:16","date_gmt":"2026-07-16T09:57:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/803691\/"},"modified":"2026-07-16T09:57:16","modified_gmt":"2026-07-16T09:57:16","slug":"abc-chair-kim-williams-fronts-up-to-live-sky-news-interview-with-chris-kenny-as-accusations-of-bias-engulf-the-public-broadcaster","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/803691\/","title":{"rendered":"ABC chair Kim Williams fronts up to live Sky News interview with Chris Kenny as accusations of bias engulf the public broadcaster"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>ABC chair Kim Williams has denied the ABC takes editorial positions on key national issues in a tense interview with Sky News host Chris Kenny.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams said he had &#8220;no idea how the overwhelming majority of people at the ABC vote, and nor would I seek to find out&#8221;, as the public broadcaster was engulfed by accusations of bias.<\/p>\n<p>Kenny questioned Mr Williams on how he could claim there was no &#8220;green left bias&#8221;, no position on climate change, net zero or Indigenous issues.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams replied: &#8220;I&#8217;d most certainly contest that with you&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Kenny said he could not argue there was no &#8220;alarmist line&#8221; on climate change as an example.<\/p>\n<p>Mr\u00a0Williams doubled down.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Chris, I don&#8217;t think the ABC is an advocate in any of these environments. It reports in relation to issues of consequence in a disciplined and fair-minded fashion,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE&#8217;: WILLIAMS REFUSES TO DISCUSS PRESENTERS&#8217; BELIEFS<\/p>\n<p>Mr\u00a0Williams also\u00a0side-stepped commenting on the political views of\u00a0high-profile presenters as Kenny quizzed him on a line-up he considered stacked with &#8220;leftists&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kenny brought up &#8220;self-avowed leftist&#8221; and late-night radio host Phillip Adams and his replacement\u00a0David Marr, suggesting he was a\u00a0&#8220;green left&#8221; journalist.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams said he would not wade into assuming their political beliefs.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, there are a number of people at the ABC that have a diversity of views,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not here to give individual report cards on commentators or personalities at the ABC&#8230; It&#8217;d be highly inappropriate for me to do that, and you know that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He then said the ABC had allowed presenters of the &#8220;conservative persuasion&#8221; to host slots as well.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kenny said the bias he saw did not stop at those two, mentioning high profile ABC presenters Sarah Ferguson, Laura Tingle and John Lyons, and pushing Mr Williams for comment.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams said: &#8221; Frankly, I don&#8217;t know how they vote, and I don&#8217;t know if they vote that they may well register out of issues of principle, a vote that is invalid&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>WILLIAMS BACKS ISRAEL COVERAGE AFTER ABC FACED RC\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams defended the ABC&#8217;s coverage of the war in the Middle East, particularly its reporting on Israel&#8217;s conduct.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kenny pointed to a key error mentioned during Royal Commission hearings last week about an inaccurate report on 14,000 babies being on the brink of death within 48 hours in Gaza.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams reiterated the ABC had corrected the story and apologised to its audience before the hearing.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>But Kenny said Mr Williams was missing a &#8220;key point&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think the important point is that this shows a propensity to always believe the worst about Israel, even if it is completely implausible,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams replied: &#8220;Chris, it came from a UN source and from UN documentation&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It is a regrettable error, it was corrected,&#8221; he added.<\/p>\n<p>Kenny then played a clip of Tingle suggesting the Bondi terror attack had &#8220;nothing to do with religion&#8221; and a video of Media Watch host Paul Barry counting the times Kenny himself had done segments on antisemitism.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams contended he did not have all the context to the latter clip, but rejected they showed anti-Israel bias.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think you need to do a much better job in demonstrating that,&#8221; Mr Williams\u00a0said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kenny accused Mr\u00a0Williams of verballing him, and clarified he did not believe reporting had been antisemitic but instead demonising of Israel.<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams defended the ABC&#8217;s commitment to objective journalism.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The ABC has bent over backwards to try to reflect a diversity of views in relation to really,\u00a0really unpleasant conflicts that persist in the Middle East, and to do so in a way that reflects the best principles of objective journalism,&#8221; he said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>He labelled the ABC&#8217;s coverage &#8220;one of the most disciplined bodies of coverage&#8230; overall of the unattractive events in the Middle East that have happened since October the seventh, 2023&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;WHY DID YOU FEEL THE NEED TO GET RID OF JUSTIN STEVENS?&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>Kenny quizzed\u00a0Mr Williams on the departure of former\u00a0news director Justin Stevens, after news of his departure was unceremoniously broken just before a Senate Estimates hearing.<\/p>\n<p>A cagy\u00a0Hugh Marks, managing director of ABC News, did little to dispel suggestions Mr\u00a0Stevens was pushed from the role at the time.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kenny asked Mr Williams why he felt &#8220;the need to get rid of&#8221; Mr Stevens.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams deflected responsibility to the managing director.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think (Mr Marks) has made it\u00a0very clear that that he wanted to see a different focus. That he wanted to see something that was going to better accord with settings that that measured up in terms of a performance-oriented ABC,&#8221; he said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kenny then asked if Mr Stevens&#8217; replacement Simon Robinson&#8217;s new mission, in part, was to &#8220;make the ABC more pluralistic, less biased&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams said he had &#8220;every confidence&#8221; Mr Robinson held pluralism &#8220;very close to his heart&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He comes with all of the embedded values of the Reuters Trust principles, which are the oldest set of editorial policies operational on the planet,&#8221; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Kenny asked: &#8220;Is that an area where the ABC needs to improve under his leadership?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams said &#8220;one can always improve&#8221; in all things.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Kenny pressed further.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;So you can improve on being more pluralistic, even though there&#8217;s no bias problem?&#8221; he asked.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams shot back: &#8220;Chris, you are relentless.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>KIM WILLIAMS ENTERS LION&#8217;S DEN<\/p>\n<p>The public broadcaster&#8217;s chair agreed to face one of his fiercest critics for the first time on Thursday, after the ABC and its ombudsman fronted the antisemitism Royal Commission last week.<\/p>\n<p>The longtime media executive took the reins at the ABC in 2024, with a proclaimed vision to prioritise bold and robust news coverage.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>He has overseen the broadcaster&#8217;s news and entertainment offerings in a tumultuous period of continued international conflicts, one federal election, and the nation&#8217;s worst ever terror attack.<\/p>\n<p>But the ABC has also made a string of editorial blunders, and issued dozens of corrections, in that time.<\/p>\n<p>Kenny has\u00a0frequently\u00a0criticised\u00a0the taxpayer-funded ABC for\u00a0perceived &#8220;bias&#8221; and &#8220;partiality&#8221; contrary to its legislated charter.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>He\u00a0took umbrage with coverage of the war in the Middle East on multiple occasions\u00a0and has accused the broadcaster of\u00a0erroneous\u00a0and &#8220;pro-Palestine&#8221; reporting, as well as &#8220;green&#8221; advocacy.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr\u00a0Williams, who has held a slew of high-profile positions across Australian media and sports,\u00a0previously\u00a0criticised\u00a0the broadcaster for &#8220;bland&#8221; coverage that\u00a0often ignored\u00a0the arts.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I have an uncompromising view that the ABC is the Australian campfire and I&#8217;m very firmly wedded to the notion that it needs to reflect on what the charter means in terms of having contemporary relevance,&#8221; he told ABC Radio Sydney upon assuming the role of chair.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams has recently<a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.skynews.com.au\/business\/media\/taxpayerfunded-abc-chair-kim-williams-takes-aim-at-one-nation-while-claiming-editorial-neutrality\/news-story\/a144621a02473606600c58197b33f9e0\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"a144621a02473606600c58197b33f9e0\" data-tgev-label=\"business\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\"> insisted the ABC was not biased, before claiming One Nation was a &#8220;policy free zone&#8221; moments later.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Mr Williams holds one of the most powerful positions at the broadcaster and as a board member has a statutory duty to ensure it maintains independence.<\/p>\n<p>It comes as a recent Sky News Pulse \/ YouGov poll showed 55 per cent of voters <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.skynews.com.au\/australia-news\/politics\/australians-support-one-nations-plan-to-strip-abc-of-taxpayer-funding-and-impose-subscription-model-in-bombshell-poll\/news-story\/c5d7fe8633bf4bd62d4d3ab82c2a31ef\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"c5d7fe8633bf4bd62d4d3ab82c2a31ef\" data-tgev-label=\"australia-news\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\">supported moving the ABC away from full taxpayer funding<\/a> and towards a user-pays model.<\/p>\n<p>ABC IN THE SPOTLIGHT<\/p>\n<p>Just last week, the <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.skynews.com.au\/australia-news\/politics\/watch-live-abc-and-sbs-to-front-antisemitism-royal-commission-amid-claims-of-antiisrael-bias\/news-story\/429fd51c719161bc53e187a81009988b\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"429fd51c719161bc53e187a81009988b\" data-tgev-label=\"australia-news\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">ABC and SBS were called before the Royal Commission on Antisemitism and Social Cohesion<\/a> over their reporting on the conflict in the Middle East and antisemitism.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>ABC Ombudsman Fiona Cameron said the ABC had at times been slow to correct high-profile errors.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>She was also asked\u00a0whether there had been a broader pattern of \u201cerroneous reporting\u201d critical of Israel that had been corrected too late or inadequately on Thursday afternoon.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Antisemitism envoy Jillian Segal told the Royal Commission that the ABC needed an independent oversight body, after suggesting the broadcaster marked its own homework.<\/p>\n<p>Editorial Director Gavin Fang disputed the need for an additional body.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;m not sure how another oversight body might function in addition to that existing oversight body, which already has the power to review and to examine the ABC content,&#8221; Mr Fang told the Royal Commission.<\/p>\n<p>Since October 7, 2023, the ABC&#8217;s ombudsman has received a surge of complaints, reaching its peak in the months following the terror attacks in Israel.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>According to the national broadcaster, in 2024-25, there were 4,192 complaints handled by the ABC ombudsman&#8217;s office, more than a quarter of them being related to Middle East coverage.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>To date, the ABC ombudsman has recorded breaches for five instances of ABC coverage concerning the Middle East.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The broadcaster said no complaints of bias had been upheld by the ombudsman in relation to ABC News coverage of the Middle East.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>A recent\u00a0<a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.skynews.com.au\/business\/media\/abc-bosses-front-senate-estimates-hearing-after-shock-resignation-of-news-director-justin-stevens\/news-story\/0ad8820d7cc774fa848662290812a297\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"0ad8820d7cc774fa848662290812a297\" data-tgev-label=\"business\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Senate Estimates hearing<\/a> saw those working under Mr Williams in the ABC&#8217;s news division grilled on a series of scandals and perceived failures.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mr Fang was left to defend the <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.skynews.com.au\/australia-news\/politics\/disgraceful-example-of-bias-abc-gaslighting-readers-with-article-claiming-tickle-v-giggle-ruling-was-victory-for-womens-rights\/news-story\/cf65ab8585441b4685b9e54f610c0b06\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"cf65ab8585441b4685b9e54f610c0b06\" data-tgev-label=\"australia-news\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\">ABC\u2019s coverage of the Giggle vs Tickle &#8216;what is a woman&#8217; case<\/a>, under heavy scrutiny from Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson. \u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>She also clashed with\u00a0Managing Director\u00a0Hugh Marks and told him there was &#8220;a\u00a0culture of defensiveness that needs to be eradicated from the ABC&#8221;.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"poster-img\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/5a5e7072c4939f985a378a1fd8389304.jpeg\" data-sctrack=\"op-poster-img\" alt=\"Hanson wants to scrap $1.3 billion funding to ABC \u2018w**kers\u2019\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/p>\n<p>In an exclusive interview with <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.skynews.com.au\/australia-news\/politics\/australians-support-one-nations-plan-to-strip-abc-of-taxpayer-funding-and-impose-subscription-model-in-bombshell-poll\/news-story\/c5d7fe8633bf4bd62d4d3ab82c2a31ef\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"c5d7fe8633bf4bd62d4d3ab82c2a31ef\" data-tgev-label=\"australia-news\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\">Sky News<\/a>, Pauline Hanson rejected Mr Williams\u2019 characterisation of One Nation and accused the broadcaster of longstanding political bias.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey&#8217;ve been very biased towards me for many years, even back in 1996 when I was first elected,\u201d Ms Hanson said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen you want to report the truth without, you know, having to go at me all the time trying to pull me down, then I&#8217;ll answer your questions.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As well as claims of bias, the ABC has suffered significant reputational damage in recent years, amid a string of editorial failures and public scandals.<\/p>\n<p>The ABC was ordered to pay more than $400,000 to former Australian commando Heston Russell after losing defamation proceedings brought by him.<\/p>\n<p>It was later discovered the ABC doctored a video by adding gunshots to footage of an Australian soldier firing out of a helicopter at what appeared to be an Afghan civilian.<\/p>\n<p>In another high-profile legal case, the ABC was forced to pay $150,000 over the unlawful sacking of journalist Antoinette Lattouf.<\/p>\n<p>The ABC lost further credibility when it was accused of\u00a0<a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.skynews.com.au\/australia-news\/politics\/almost-identical-sky-news-host-chris-kenny-exposes-abc-committing-same-journalistic-sin-as-bbc-in-doctoring-footage-of-president-donald-trump\/news-story\/5a13ddca1c58deb7b3a62dd9b9a9cb64\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" target=\"_blank\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"5a13ddca1c58deb7b3a62dd9b9a9cb64\" data-tgev-label=\"australia-news\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\">doctoring a speech by US President Donald Trump<\/a>\u00a0about the US Capitol riots. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Former ABC News director Justin Stevens resigned recently, following more than 65 corrections and admissions of fault in a single year.<\/p>\n<p>ABC managing director Hugh Marks later admitted the broadcaster had quietly been preparing to replace Mr Stevens for 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