{"id":812211,"date":"2026-07-20T12:40:14","date_gmt":"2026-07-20T12:40:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/812211\/"},"modified":"2026-07-20T12:40:14","modified_gmt":"2026-07-20T12:40:14","slug":"barnaby-joyce-7-30-interview-mp-clashes-with-sarah-ferguson-over-pauline-hanson-and-immigration-policy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/812211\/","title":{"rendered":"Barnaby Joyce 7.30 interview: MP clashes with Sarah Ferguson over Pauline Hanson and immigration policy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Alexander Darling\" data-testid=\"author-avatar-image\" height=\"64\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/c32d6e07d7a1a31e2856e543cf9a3634c3f7d5021135fbbcc1b1da95ce1beb96.png\"  width=\"64\" class=\"sc-9a01536c-0 libeSR\"\/>Save<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-d1b14060-4 JmUoF\">You have reached your maximum number of saved items.<\/p>\n<p>Remove items from your <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/goodfood\/saved\" class=\"sc-3f16ee48-12 sc-d1b14060-2 jyLmZI iQLtAb\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">saved list<\/a> to add more.<\/p>\n<p>AAA<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI, I think \u2026 SIT DOWN! \u2026 Sorry, it\u2019s a dog.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Barnaby Joyce was about to answer a question on the ABC about whether he was comfortable with where his party leader, Pauline Hanson, was taking him, when he roared at a dog off-camera.<\/p>\n<p>It wasn\u2019t clear how close the dog was or what it was doing to raise his ire, but the strange outburst proved the climax of a live nine-minute interview during which he claimed Channel Seven had suggested Hanson meet with British right-wing agitator Tommy Robinson, and appeared to suggest that One Nation could try to identify illegal immigrants using the medical system and parking fine data.<\/p>\n<p>When he composed himself, Joyce said he had changed his views the way that many other Australians had.<\/p>\n<p>When journalist Sarah Ferguson asked if he had set a limit on how far he was willing to go in defence of Hanson, Joyce didn\u2019t answer directly.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen you say set a limit, you know, I\u2019ve heard other things today, like she supports returning to the White Australia policy. She doesn\u2019t, and she said that quite clearly on the stage,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Joyce roars at the offending dog.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/06d0edd913fcca80e25c6267dda4b6c35c891c889b5efde0186397cba52eb8e6.jpeg\"  class=\"sc-d34e428-1 ioInpc\"\/>Joyce roars at the offending dog.ABC<\/p>\n<p>Joyce appeared on the public broadcaster\u2019s 7.30 program following Hanson\u2019s highly publicised trip to Europe, in which she was seen relaxing in Italy with <a class=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/national\/pauline-hanson-and-gina-rinehart-spotted-poolside-in-italy-20260716-p60fzb.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">billionaire friend Gina Rinehart<\/a>, told the Conservative Political Action Conference in London not to apologise for being white, and appeared on a podcast <a class=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/politics\/federal\/mass-deportations-no-regrets-what-we-learned-from-hanson-s-tv-special-20260719-p60gls.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">and Channel Seven segment<\/a> with Robinson.<\/p>\n<p>Ferguson then asked whether he endorsed Hanson\u2019s call to bring Robinson to Australia, and Joyce immediately claimed Seven\u2019s program, Spotlight, had suggested Hanson and Robinson meet.<\/p>\n<p>When pushed on the fact Seven denied this, Joyce said he\u2019d read emails and had \u201ca different opinion\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>When asked if he agreed with Hanson\u2019s remarks in the Spotlight program that Muslims bred at cost to Australian taxpayers, Joyce again defended his leader: \u201cShe also said that obviously it\u2019s not a case of every person of the Islamic faith. There is an issue in Australia that if people go and into a form of balkanisation where you \u2026 where there\u2019s not an assimilation, where you go into a form of an alternate culture which is at odds with the egalitarian ethos of Australia, then that creates massive problems. And we saw that in Bondi.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"One Nation leader Pauline Hanson talking to Tommy Robinson.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/1784551212_130_bc245fdbe8fb0ce45b8513a1b2f343ac640069b6.jpeg\"  class=\"sc-d34e428-1 ioInpc\"\/>One Nation leader Pauline Hanson talking to Tommy Robinson.X\/@TRobinsonNewEra<\/p>\n<p>Earlier on Monday, Joyce had backed Hanson\u2019s call for mass deportations \u2013 which she later clarified to add that this applied only to people in Australia illegally \u2013 and he was pressed on this by Ferguson.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou said today you could wait until overstayers go to see a doctor or a nurse. So will you require GPs and doctors to report visa overstayers to authorities?\u201d Ferguson asked.<\/p>\n<p>The mysterious dog that had riled Joyce then resurfaced off-screen.<\/p>\n<p>Related Article<a href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/world\/europe\/farage-heaps-praise-on-hanson-as-rinehart-watches-on-in-pink-cowboy-hat-20260718-p60ge3.html\" tabindex=\"-1\" class=\"sc-cba76dee-0 hdiTqm\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Pauline Hanson speaks at CPAC.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/53fb1b90be6ba0bba5082fc518918b0e43f00501.jpeg\"  class=\"sc-d34e428-1 ioInpc\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI have to apologise for the dog,\u201d Joyce began his answer, though there was no disturbance obvious to viewers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDon\u2019t worry about the dog, just answer the question,\u201d Ferguson pressed calmly.<\/p>\n<p>Joyce bristled at this: \u201cDon\u2019t be rude, otherwise this interview will come to a grinding halt.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ferguson asked the question again, with Joyce interrupting before she could finish.<\/p>\n<p>Editor&#8217;s pick<a href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/world\/north-america\/why-the-world-cup-trophy-ceremony-might-be-about-to-get-very-awkward-20260720-p60go9.html\" tabindex=\"-1\" class=\"sc-cba76dee-0 hdiTqm\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"FIFA president Gianni Infantino starts to drag President Donald Trump away from Spain\u2019s trophy celebrations.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/eaf3f4f77e42765e6baf6070d7bd4ecd29b0a008.jpeg\"  class=\"sc-d34e428-1 ioInpc\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cOh no, Sarah that\u2019s ridiculous, unless you want to keep illegal immigrants here, then there\u2019s no point in calling them illegal &#8230;\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Asked a third time how One Nation would detect illegal immigrants to deport, Joyce said: \u201cFrom time to time, they\u2019re going to come across all range of things, whether it\u2019s health issues, whether it\u2019s parking fines, whatever it is. 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