{"id":820038,"date":"2026-07-24T03:35:41","date_gmt":"2026-07-24T03:35:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/820038\/"},"modified":"2026-07-24T03:35:41","modified_gmt":"2026-07-24T03:35:41","slug":"abc-and-anthropic-global-ai-giant-seeks-access-to-decades-of-radio-and-television-archives-for-model-training","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/820038\/","title":{"rendered":"ABC and Anthropic: Global AI giant seeks access to decades of radio and television archives for model training"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Calum Jaspan\" data-testid=\"author-avatar-image\" height=\"64\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/ed13c528ff29429d0a4267821595c52ca2cdc4cc.png\"  width=\"64\" class=\"sc-9a01536c-0 libeSR\"\/><\/p>\n<p data-testid=\"article-datetime\" class=\"sc-5cbbddda-5 hxoHkT\">Updated July 22, 2026 \u2014 10:36am,first published July 22, 2026 \u2014 9:00am<\/p>\n<p>Save<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-d1b14060-4 JmUoF\">You have reached your maximum number of saved items.<\/p>\n<p>Remove items from your <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/goodfood\/saved\" class=\"sc-3f16ee48-12 sc-d1b14060-2 jyLmZI iQLtAb\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">saved list<\/a> to add more.<\/p>\n<p>AAA<\/p>\n<p>The ABC was asked by Anthropic to share decades of radio and television content in return for compensation to train its large language models, the broadcaster\u2019s boss says, though the AI giant denies it is currently in negotiations with the ABC.<\/p>\n<p>Hugh Marks said the tech giant, <a class=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/business\/companies\/this-brother-and-sister-helped-start-a-company-five-years-ago-now-they-are-worth-11-billion-each-20260601-p602kp.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">which was recently valued at $US965 billion ($1.4 trillion)<\/a>, wants access to the ABC\u2019s archives to train its Claude AI chatbot, but that media companies like the public broadcaster are in a disproportionate bargaining position. He made the comments during a panel session focused on the impact of artificial intelligence on media companies with fellow executives on Tuesday night.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Hugh Marks said the tech giant wants access to the ABC\u2019s radio archives to train its Claude AI chatbot.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/9a3b1db9c72b842e8616d590a86aeaeb1c059727.jpeg\"  class=\"sc-d34e428-1 ldCIuB\"\/>Hugh Marks said the tech giant wants access to the ABC\u2019s radio archives to train its Claude AI chatbot.Dominic Lorrimer<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne of the interesting things for us in that discussion is that they want access to our audio content,\u201d Marks said when asked by journalist and radio host Hamish Macdonald about the ABC\u2019s ongoing negotiations over a commercial deal with Anthropic.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey want access to the work that you and your colleagues are doing now, and have done over generations.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It is rare for media executives to make such a revealing comment about ongoing commercial negotiations. Nine CEO Matt Stanton declined to comment on the finer details of <a class=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/business\/companies\/microsoft-agrees-to-pay-nine-for-journalism-in-major-ai-deal-20260702-p60c3z.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a recent deal<\/a> the company inked with Microsoft to use content from its titles, including this masthead.<\/p>\n<p>Seeking access to the ABC\u2019s news content is a \u201cgiven\u201d, Marks said, as tech giants like Anthropic, Microsoft and OpenAI want legitimacy for the information presented to those using their chatbots.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIncreasingly, as the world moves to video, they also want video content,\u201d Marks added.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Marks said tech giants like Anthropic, Microsoft and OpenAI want legitimacy for the information presented to those using their chatbots.\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/1783134790_467_903585e46cde86ee195ab560b3bb0300fe36b5ef.jpeg\"  class=\"sc-d34e428-1 ldCIuB\"\/>Marks said tech giants like Anthropic, Microsoft and OpenAI want legitimacy for the information presented to those using their chatbots.Bloomberg<\/p>\n<p>An Anthropic spokesperson said it was not in talks with the ABC over a licensing deal: \u201cWe were surprised by these comments as we are not in commercial negotiations with ABC for licensing their content,\u201d the spokesperson said.<\/p>\n<p>During the panel discussion \u2013 which included News Corp\u2019s local executive chair Michael Miller, Stanton, SBS managing director Jane Palfreyman and Reuters editor-in-chief Alessandra Galloni \u2013 the executives argued for the need for financial compensation for trusted news content and the reputations of their mastheads, developed over decades.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe are in a disproportional bargaining position,\u201d Marks said.<\/p>\n<p>Related Article<a href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/technology\/moon-landing-why-this-chinese-ai-model-rattled-global-sharemarkets-20260720-p60gr1.html\" tabindex=\"-1\" class=\"sc-cba76dee-0 hdiTqm\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Kimi K3\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/1784760073_629_8c65c791b5e2cce52ff8f5b420bf668c238b69511c08eb1c9f7b1b45fddf360c.gif\"  class=\"sc-d34e428-1 ioInpc\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have these global businesses that have got trillion dollar investment balances, that have power and seem to have convinced some governments around the world that for some reason they should be able to take IP, where maybe they can\u2019t take water or land or goods or other things. But for some reason they seem to think that IP is a free thing they can take from us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The panel session was held as part of a new format for the ABC\u2019s Andrew Olle Media Lecture, delivered earlier in the night by Galloni, who urged further collaboration between Australian media companies as AI uptake increasingly redefines the role media plays in society.<\/p>\n<p>The ABC revised its principles on the use of artificial intelligence last month, introducing Claude as its AI tool of choice for its staff across the organisation.<\/p>\n<p>The Business Briefing newsletter delivers major stories, exclusive coverage and expert opinion. <a class=\"inline-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/link\/follow-20170101-p56j4t\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up to get it every weekday morning<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Save<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-d1b14060-4 JmUoF\">You have reached your maximum number of saved items.<\/p>\n<p>Remove items from your <a href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/goodfood\/saved\" class=\"sc-3f16ee48-12 sc-d1b14060-2 jyLmZI iQLtAb\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">saved list<\/a> to add more.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Calum Jaspan\" data-testid=\"author-avatar-image\" height=\"40\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/1768870210_233_ed13c528ff29429d0a4267821595c52ca2cdc4cc.png\"  width=\"40\" class=\"sc-9a01536c-0 libeSR\"\/><a class=\"sc-cba76dee-0 hdiTqm sc-b5b9fd03-2 jcGta-D\" href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/by\/calum-jaspan-p536wx\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Calum Jaspan<\/a> is a media writer for The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age, based in Melbourne. Reach him securely on Signal @calumjaspan.10Connect via <a class=\"sc-cba76dee-0 hdiTqm sc-b5b9fd03-5 czsZcI\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/calumjaspan_?lang=en\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">X<\/a> or <a class=\"sc-cba76dee-0 hdiTqm sc-b5b9fd03-5 czsZcI\" href=\"https:\/\/www.smh.com.au\/business\/companies\/mailto:calum.jaspan@nine.com.au\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">email<\/a>.From our partners<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Updated July 22, 2026 \u2014 10:36am,first published July 22, 2026 \u2014 9:00am Save You have reached your maximum&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":820039,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[256,254,255,64,63,105],"class_list":["post-820038","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-artificial-intelligence","tag-ai","tag-artificial-intelligence","tag-artificialintelligence","tag-au","tag-australia","tag-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/820038","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=820038"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/820038\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/820039"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=820038"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=820038"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=820038"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}