{"id":820816,"date":"2026-07-24T12:16:10","date_gmt":"2026-07-24T12:16:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/820816\/"},"modified":"2026-07-24T12:16:10","modified_gmt":"2026-07-24T12:16:10","slug":"whats-the-deal-with-nhl-gm-geniuses-who-fall-flat-after-switching-teams","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/820816\/","title":{"rendered":"What\u2019s the deal with NHL GM geniuses who fall flat after switching teams?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Seven years ago, the Detroit Red Wings pulled off the near-impossible: They made a move that absolutely everyone loved.<\/p>\n<p>Their own fans, who were thrilled. Other fan bases, who were grudgingly jealous. The media. The experts. The insiders. The nerds. All 200 hockey men.<\/p>\n<p>Everyone agreed: Hiring Steve Yzerman as general manager was a slam dunk.<\/p>\n<p>The news landed one Friday morning, somehow both <a href=\"https:\/\/nytimes.com\/athletic\/935261\/2019\/04\/20\/steve-yzerman-takes-the-red-wings-torch-and-a-framework-comes-into-view\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">coming out of nowhere<\/a> while also feeling like we\u2019d known it all along. Of course the captain was coming home. After an apprenticeship in Tampa Bay that saw him build the Lightning into a powerhouse, Yzerman was returning to Detroit to do the same for the team he\u2019d led to three Stanley Cup titles on the ice. The news received glowing reviews everywhere, with the possible exception of Tampa Bay, where a team already reeling from a historic playoff collapse in their first year without Yzerman <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/934303\/2019\/04\/19\/why-steve-yzermans-departure-may-lead-to-other-changes-among-lightning-brass\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">worried about what might come next<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Is Zach Werenski really committed to the Blue Jackets?<\/p>\n<p>Aaron Portzline and Sean McIndoe<\/p>\n<p>After all, this wasn\u2019t just the typical NHL homecoming, where a struggling team trots out a former player to buy some time with a skeptical public. In 2019, Yzerman was considered one of the very best GMs in the league. He\u2019d worked magic in Tampa, he\u2019d led Team Canada to gold, he\u2019d won GM of the Year. Now he was home, taking over a team ready to make the next step toward contention and beyond.<\/p>\n<p>It was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/1183285\/2019\/09\/06\/state-of-the-franchise-as-the-red-wings-rebuild-rolls-on-steve-yzerman-brings-a-new-hope-to-hockeytown\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a new hope<\/a>\u00a0because it couldn\u2019t fail. And then it did.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s really no arguing it. We can quibble over which adverbs to apply \u2014 did he fail spectacularly or just dramatically? \u2014 but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/7450167\/2026\/07\/17\/steve-yzerman-red-wings-general-manager\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the failure part isn\u2019t up for debate<\/a>. And among the many pieces of the fallout we\u2019re still sorting through sits Yzerman\u2019s reputation as a front-office genius, once pristine, now in shambles.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019ve been a hockey fan long enough, all of this might sound oddly familiar.<\/p>\n<p>Stop me if you\u2019ve heard it before. A GM establishes himself with one team, building a reputation that morphs from competent to smart to borderline infallible. They win plenty, maybe even a championship or two. Eventually they hit the open market, where other teams line up to meet them with open arms and blank checks. When one finally hires them, we all but get to work on the Cup engraving.<\/p>\n<p>And then it just doesn\u2019t work. And we\u2019re all left wondering: Wait, was that guy really as smart as we all thought?<\/p>\n<p>It happens time and again. Here are a half-dozen of the most notable.<\/p>\n<p>Glen Sather<\/p>\n<p>Maybe the most famous example of all, Glen Sather won five Cup titles in Edmonton, including one nobody saw coming after he\u2019d been forced to sell off Wayne Gretzky. And even as the sport\u2019s emerging economics hammered the small-market Oilers into submission, Sather kept them competitive. At one point, while lamenting the financial constraints he was working under, Sather <a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2024\/06\/26\/sports\/analyzing-glen-sathers-hits-and-misses-during-rangers-tenure\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">infamously said<\/a>, \u201cIf I had the Rangers payroll, I\u2019d never lose a game.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Then the Rangers hired him in 2000, and he got his wish, including several years of pre-cap freedom where he could basically throw unlimited money at any player he wanted. The result: A massive payroll, a bunch of broken-down former stars clogging up the roster and zero playoff appearances. Sather eventually found some success in his later years in New York, but never won another Cup title.<\/p>\n<p>Ken Holland<\/p>\n<p>A familiar name for Wings fans, Ken Holland was GM in Detroit for over 20 years before Yzerman arrived, winning three Cup titles as GM and another as an assistant. In 2009, Sports Illustrated\u2019s list of the top 10 executives of the decade had Holland in <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20100117053624\/http:\/sportsillustrated.cnn.com\/2009\/magazine\/specials\/2000s\/12\/19\/top.executives\/index.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">second place across all of pro sports<\/a>, trailing only the New England Patriots\u2019 Scott Pioli and ahead of names such as Theo Epstein and Billy Beane; they wrote that he \u201cassiduously has kept this well-oiled machine purring with artful final-pieces-of-the-puzzle deals and signings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When he became available in 2019, the Oilers snapped him up almost immediately in what <a href=\"https:\/\/edmontonsun.com\/sports\/hockey\/nhl\/edmonton-oilers\/jones-ken-holland-would-be-good-choice-for-edmonton-oilers\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">seemed like a perfect fit<\/a>. Five extremely uneven years later, he was out, with his reputation so diminished that the Kings hiring him was met with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6360611\/2025\/05\/15\/ken-holland-kings-gm-hired\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">headlines such as this<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Peter Chiarelli<\/p>\n<p>After winning the Cup in Boston, Peter Chiarelli was riding so high that the Bruins <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JRyIgatcTAs\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">proudly posted his trade deliberations online<\/a>. He was hired in Edmonton in 2015 in the aftermath of the Connor McDavid lottery win, heralded as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.espn.com\/nhl\/story\/_\/id\/12757345\/nhl-hiring-peter-chiarelli-signals-big-culture-change-edmonton-oilers\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">the culture change the team needed<\/a>. These days his four-year stint is remembered for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/7404300\/2026\/06\/29\/nhl-offseason-trades-hall-larsson-subban-weber-2016\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cthe trade is one for one\u201d<\/a> and not much else, and he hasn\u2019t held a GM job since.<\/p>\n<p>By the way, that\u2019s two Oilers GMs, and we didn\u2019t even mention Stan Bowman. If you have any doubts about the danger of can\u2019t-miss GMs with one successful stint on their resumes, ask an Edmonton fan.<\/p>\n<p>  Dale Tallon<\/p>\n<p>Before Bowman pushed the Hawks over the finish line, it was Dale Tallon who built them into a quasi-dynasty. His four years in Chicago <a href=\"https:\/\/www.espn.com\/nhl\/columns\/story?columnist=burnside_scott&amp;id=4326789\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">ended weirdly<\/a>, but he was the one who took a floundering team and added Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane and Marian Hossa, not to mention hiring Joel Quenneville. The Panthers put him in charge for most of the next decade, and achieved just about nothing over that time beyond introducing <a href=\"https:\/\/sports.yahoo.com\/trending-topics-dale-tallon-seeks-undo-progress-panthers-made-without-124903322.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">the \u201ccomputer boys\u201d punchline<\/a> to the hockey world. Once Tallon was out, Bill Zito arrived and quickly transformed the Panthers into the league\u2019s model success story.<\/p>\n<p>Brian Burke<\/p>\n<p>Brian Burke was already an experienced GM by the time he arrived in Anaheim, having held the role in Hartford and Vancouver. But with the Ducks he hit home run after home run, landing Scott Niedermayer and Chris Pronger and bringing back Teemu Selanne before rolling to a 2007 Cup win with a team <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2007\/10\/03\/sports\/hockey\/03ducks.html?_r=0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">built in his old-school image<\/a>. Then he left for Toronto, to great fanfare and (initially) fan and media adoration. A few years, several blockbusters, multiple soundbites and no big wins later, he was fired and we were wondering <a href=\"https:\/\/grantland.com\/the-triangle\/brian-burke-fired-toronto-maple-leafs\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">how it all went wrong<\/a>. A further stint in Calgary failed to salvage what was left of his reputation.<\/p>\n<p>Neil Smith<\/p>\n<p>Maybe the most extreme example we\u2019ll ever find, Smith spent over a decade as GM of the Rangers, and was the one who finally ended their record drought. He inherited a team that wasn\u2019t all that good and built them into a Presidents\u2019 Trophy and eventually Stanley Cup-winning powerhouse through a masterclass of aggressive moves. He waited for the right opportunity for a second act, then lasted a few weeks with the Islanders before being <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2006\/07\/19\/sports\/hockey\/19isles.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">replaced by a backup goalie<\/a>. He was never a prominent figure in the NHL again.<\/p>\n<p>To be clear, this isn\u2019t a universal phenomenon, and there absolutely have been established GMs who\u2019ve succeeded elsewhere. Jim Rutherford won a Cup in Pittsburgh after winning in Carolina, the only modern GM to pull off that feat. Cliff Fletcher rebuilt the Leafs after a decade and a Cup in Calgary. Bryan Murray barely missed a beat going from Anaheim to Ottawa, David Poile won a ton of games in Washington and then Nashville, and Lou Lamoriello exceeded all expectations with the Islanders.<\/p>\n<p>But it\u2019s also hard not to notice that many of the GMs who rank high on any list of all-time greats \u2014 a list that would begin with the immortal Sam Pollock and also include legends such as Harry Sinden, Serge Savard and Bill Torrey plus more modern names such as Pierre Lacroix and Doug Wilson \u2014 never took a second job anywhere.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe that was a good thing, because man, a lot of these so-called geniuses sure seem to fall flat on their face when they\u2019re asked for a repeat performance.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s weird, right?<\/p>\n<p>Every situation is different, and the fact that somebody succeeded in one market doesn\u2019t guarantee that they\u2019ll do it again somewhere else. But it doesn\u2019t feel like it should be possible for a guy to go from being in the conversation as the very best in the world at their job to the very worst. That would be like McDavid signing in New York in a few years and immediately struggling to hit 40 points, or Quinn Hughes getting to Minnesota and slotting in as a third-pair guy, or Patrick Roy being dealt to Colorado and immediately turning into Andr\u00e9 \u201cRed Light\u201d Racicot. Aging curves and injuries aside, that just doesn\u2019t happen to players.<\/p>\n<p>And with a handful of exceptions, it really doesn\u2019t happen with coaches either. Maybe you point to examples such as Don Cherry in Colorado, or Marc Crawford anywhere but Colorado. But teams <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6343534\/2025\/05\/09\/nhl-coaches-joel-quenneville-mike-sullivan\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">love their recycled coaching retreads<\/a> for a reason: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/5525111\/2024\/05\/29\/nhl-coaching-hires-retread-mill\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">They almost always work<\/a>, at least for a while.<\/p>\n<p>Just not with GMs. There was a time when NHL teams seemed to be learning the lesson, with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/609053\/2018\/10\/24\/down-goes-brown-nhl-gms-dont-get-second-chances-anymore-which-might-change-how-your-favorite-team-is-run\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a noticeable trend emerging away from hiring second-time GMs<\/a>. That was probably an overcorrection, and these days we\u2019re back to seeing retreads such as Jason Botterill, John Chayka and Jarmo Kek\u00e4l\u00e4inen get second chances despite so-so results in their first stops.<\/p>\n<p>But even given that, it\u2019s hard to ignore just how many of the consensus picks for the best GMs in the league are first-timers. You can start with recent Cup winners such as Eric Tulsky, Bill Zito, Kelly McCrimmon and Julien BriseBois. Mix in recent GM of the Year honorees such as Bill Guerin, Don Sweeney and three-time winner Jim Nill, plus widely praised names such as Mike Grier. That\u2019s a wide array of backgrounds \u2014 former players, front-office assistants and an agent, with approaches both old school and new \u2014 but none had ever been GMs for another NHL team.<\/p>\n<p>By contrast, who\u2019s the most successful GM on a second stint? With Doug Armstrong done in St. Louis and Chris MacFarland only just starting in Nashville, we\u2019re left with \u2026 who, maybe Kyle Dubas? Unless you think Don Waddell has been knocking it out of the park in Columbus, that\u2019s pretty much your only option.<\/p>\n<p>This has to mean something. I\u2019m just not sure what. But let\u2019s throw a couple of possibilities out there.<\/p>\n<p>Lesson 1: We\u2019re just really bad at evaluating GMs. If the hockey world keeps anointing guys as geniuses who then immediately fail in their next stop, it seems like the most obvious lesson is that we\u2019re bad at this. Maybe the reason Yzerman went from mastermind to chump is that he was never a mastermind in the first place \u2014 and maybe he\u2019s not a chump now. His team won, and we all gave him the credit. Then his new team lost, and we blamed him. Maybe it\u2019s all a lot more complicated than that.<\/p>\n<p>More specifically \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Lesson 2: A front office isn\u2019t just a GM. There was a time when it largely was, when guys such as Pollock and Sinden and Fletcher were wheeling and dealing based largely on their own gut instincts. These days, almost every team has ranks of assistants and analytics and consultants, not to mention an army of scouts. The GM might hire a lot of those people, and ultimately the buck stops with the boss. But that doesn\u2019t mean you can airlift a guy out of one job into the next and expect anywhere near the same results.<\/p>\n<p>Lesson 3: We\u2019re too quick to ignore what\u2019s already been built. You may have noticed a pattern with some of these high-profile GM success stories that don\u2019t hold up: A lot of them sure seem to involve teams where key pieces were already in place. Sather already had Gretzky. Holland had Yzerman himself, plus Nicklas Lidstrom and others. Bowman had Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane. We tend to hand-wave that stuff away under the guise that everybody inherits something, and that\u2019s largely true. But maybe we need to pump the brakes on crowning the next great GM based on what somebody else built.<\/p>\n<p>Lesson 4: The NHL evolves faster than we want to think. This is a different way of looking at the problem. Maybe it\u2019s not that the smart GMs get dumb. Maybe the Sathers and Hollands and Burkes and Yzermans of the hockey world really were as smart as we all wanted to think, and maybe they stayed that way. The problem wasn\u2019t that they changed, but that the league did.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, maybe expecting Yzerman to be as good a GM in 2026 as he was in 2016 is no more unrealistic than expecting him to lace up the skates and go be the player he was in 1996. What works today won\u2019t work tomorrow, and everyone gets left behind eventually. Tulsky is making this all look easy now, but maybe in a decade he\u2019ll be the old and out-of-touch guy struggling to keep up with these new-fangled ideas as he guides the Houston Scarlet Aeros to another last-place finish.<\/p>\n<p>Lesson 5: Maybe nobody is good at this and it\u2019s mostly luck. You knew this was coming if you\u2019ve read my thoughts on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/937331\/2019\/04\/22\/down-goes-brown-the-2019-playoffs-are-total-chaos-is-that-good-it-depends-on-your-door\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the role of luck in the NHL<\/a> over the years. And sure, it obviously can\u2019t all be luck, and it would be depressing if it was. Besides, while it\u2019s not always easy to figure out who the great GMs are, it sure seems like there are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/athletic\/6876384\/2025\/12\/11\/nhl-worst-general-managers-teams-job\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">legitimately bad ones<\/a>, which means there\u2019s at least some skill in play here somewhere.<\/p>\n<p>But maybe a lot of this all comes back to our desperate need as fans to feel like the right result always plays out in the end. If a team wins, their GM must be smarter than everyone else because the idea that everyone is basically rolling the same dice and flipping the same coins and some guys are just getting luckier on the results is kind of a bummer. It\u2019s at least possible that being a successful GM is a little bit of skill mixed in with a lot of luck, and even if the first part of that equation is a long-term trait, that doesn\u2019t mean the latter half will be.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not sure. But I do know one thing: The next time a team breaks the bank to hire a sure-thing GM prodigy based on their success at their last stop, I\u2019m going to be one of the skeptics. There\u2019s something weird going on with these guys, and it should make us rethink how we feel about the job they\u2019re being hired to do.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Seven years ago, the Detroit Red Wings pulled off the near-impossible: They made a move that absolutely everyone&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":820817,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[556],"tags":[64,63,575,85],"class_list":["post-820816","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-nhl","tag-au","tag-australia","tag-nhl","tag-sports"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/820816","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=820816"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/820816\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/820817"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=820816"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=820816"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=820816"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}