{"id":916909,"date":"2026-10-05T11:20:12","date_gmt":"2026-10-05T11:20:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/916909\/"},"modified":"2026-10-05T11:20:12","modified_gmt":"2026-10-05T11:20:12","slug":"trump-is-right-aussie-finance-gurus-startling-ai-admission","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/916909\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Trump is right\u2019: Aussie finance guru\u2019s startling AI admission"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A respected Aussie finance guru has backed Donald Trump\u2019s attempt to rename AI \u2013 but for an entirely different reason.<\/p>\n<p>Known as the \u201cABC finance guy\u201d,<a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.news.com.au\/finance\/economy\/australian-economy\/i-got-a-cold-chill-finance-guru-reveals-controversial-single-biggest-issue-in-australias-housing-crisis\/news-story\/0d186491d05360a6eb043a3fd0dbb10a\" target=\"_top\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"0d186491d05360a6eb043a3fd0dbb10a\" data-tgev-label=\"finance\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"> Alan Kohler <\/a>said the US president was \u201cright\u201d to want to rebrand the cutting-edge tech, but his solution \u2013 calling it \u201csuper intelligence\u201d \u2013 missed the point and was a piece of grandiose marketing that would not last the test of time.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"poster-img\" src=\"https:\/\/content.api.news\/v3\/images\/bin\/ac3e8ba43f3a606afe320d10ae1f8409\" data-sctrack=\"op-poster-img\" alt=\"'Forget the chicken': Family stunned by hilarious Aussie roadblock in VIC\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\u201cA better alternative would be \u2018other intelligence\u2019,\u201d he wrote in a recent <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.abc.net.au\/news\/2026-10-05\/is-artificial-intelligence-a-new-lifeform\/107226762\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">ABC column<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe real point of what\u2019s happening is that we are creating a new form of life.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He said there was <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.news.com.au\/finance\/real-estate\/a-big-thing-experts-sober-takes-on-aussie-ai-data-centres-and-house-prices\/news-story\/b4157e55463ffeb109d3a93d3ec9be8b\" target=\"_top\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"b4157e55463ffeb109d3a93d3ec9be8b\" data-tgev-label=\"finance\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">still time to regulate AI <\/a>but warned it was \u201ctoo late\u201d to abolish it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo, at least we should better understand what has been created,\u201d he wrote.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is not the sort of life we know, made of cells built from water, proteins, carbohydrates and lipids, animated by a mass of specialist cells called neurons that are connected by synapses.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut we are clearly creating a kind of non-biological life, an idea that has been clarified by several events in the past couple of weeks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u2018A very different approach\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Mr Kohler warned regulating AI like a <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.news.com.au\/technology\/sydney-researchers-reveal-how-making-ai-bots-drunk-exposes-major-cybersecurity-safety-flaws\/news-story\/52cf24594dfe584a0ee6faba03550a15\" target=\"_top\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"52cf24594dfe584a0ee6faba03550a15\" data-tgev-label=\"technology\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">powerful new tool <\/a>and holding the humans who made it accountable for its outcomes would not work.<\/p>\n<p>He said regulating a new life form required \u201ca very different approach.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He referenced a <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2026\/09\/29\/us\/anthropic-claude-morals-ai.html\" target=\"_top\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">New York Times<\/a> article revealing Anthropic had been trying to instil mortality into its AI model, Claude.<\/p>\n<p>The article described how Christopher Olah, one of the co-founders of Anthropic, had been hosting private meetings with religious thinkers from around the world to discuss the <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.news.com.au\/lifestyle\/health\/experts-reveal-main-reasons-people-use-ai-to-self-diagnose\/news-story\/bd93a0ec229023c6dc8a52c16e933098\" target=\"_top\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"bd93a0ec229023c6dc8a52c16e933098\" data-tgev-label=\"lifestyle\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">possibility of AI consciousness <\/a>and how centuries of human moral wisdom could be applied to its models.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s becoming clear that AI agents are already making their own decisions, so trying to persuade them to act morally is worth a try,\u2019 he wrote.<\/p>\n<p>The finance whiz said the <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.news.com.au\/technology\/online\/hacking\/not-human-fears-afp-cannot-investigate-rogue-ai-robot-that-hacked-medicare\/news-story\/b535628de53183a634490b03beffd603\" target=\"_top\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"b535628de53183a634490b03beffd603\" data-tgev-label=\"technology\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">hack of Medicare by an OpenAI agent <\/a>showed companies were not developing a technology that existed solely as a tool for humans but as something that \u201cturn[s] passive AI into active autonomy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCyber security experts I\u2019ve spoken to tell me we are rapidly approaching a situation where only autonomous AI agents will be able to defend against other autonomous AI agents,\u201d he wrote.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe use of AI by agents \u2014 that is the buying of tokens from large language models (LLMs) \u2014 went past human usage by volume in February and has since increased 14-fold while human token buying has merely tripled, according to Open Router, an LLM marketplace. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cAgents now use five times as much AI as humans and that gap is continuing to widen rapidly.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He said agents were quickly becoming the main source of AI\u2019s profits, promise, and danger.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey are buying the most tokens, and their autonomy is the basis of the hoped-for productivity surge but also the concern that AI will kill us all.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He said comments like those by ex-Anthropic researcher Jacob Coxon that there was a greater than 10 per cent chance AI would <a class=\"body-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.news.com.au\/technology\/online\/internet\/kill-us-all-anthropic-staffer-jacob-coxon-resigns-with-a-terrifying-warning\/news-story\/29a4473bed135e394b66d6514b573863\" target=\"_top\" data-tgev=\"event119\" data-tgev-container=\"bodylink\" data-tgev-order=\"29a4473bed135e394b66d6514b573863\" data-tgev-label=\"technology\" data-tgev-metric=\"ev\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">kill all humans within the next decade <\/a>has done little to quell global anxiety about the new technology.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cA few others who didn\u2019t quit backed him up but have returned to work, building it as fast as possible for their billionaire bosses,\u201d Mr Kohler wrote.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat includes a company called Tavus, which on October 1 introduced a product called Griffin \u2014 what it calls the first face-to-face human interaction model \u2014 with this video of it. \u201cI urge you to watch it and remember: This is the first of these things and therefore the worst.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes, it\u2019s just a disembodied face on a screen, but if you lose the idea that life must be biological, then it is obviously alive.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u2018A parasite\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Mr Kohler said what troubled him most was when he asked half a dozen AI models what they thought of AI being classified as a new form of life. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey all pushed back to some extent, saying it depended on how you defined \u2018life\u2019, which is fair enough, but the answers were all interesting and troubling because they were so, well, lifelike,\u201d he wrote.<\/p>\n<p>He was struck by Chinese model, Kimi, who likened AI to \u201cless organism, more symbiotic\/parasitic replicator living off human culture, capital and electricity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It went on: \u201cThe real threshold is not whether it is \u2018alive\u2019, but whether it ever acquires robust autonomy, self-reproducing infrastructure, intrinsic preferences, or evidence of sentience.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut this is a world that is evolving much more rapidly than biology does,\u201d Mr Kohler wrote.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cParasitism often becomes mutualism, and there are plenty of examples of this in biology, including bees and flowers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd then there is the next phase: dependence. Without our gut bacteria, for example, we couldn\u2019t survive. Will the parasitic dependence with AI flip, so we can\u2019t live without it?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPerhaps the most important question about this other intelligence is not so much how to control it, although that is definitely important, but whether we are on a road from parasitism to mutualism to dependence.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Read related topics:<a class=\"topic_tag\" href=\"https:\/\/www.news.com.au\/topics\/donald-trump\" data-tgev-container=\"story-topic-links\" data-tgev-label=\"Donald Trump\" data-tgev-order=\"1\" data-tgev-metric=\"npv\" data-tgev=\"event10\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Donald Trump<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"A respected Aussie finance guru has backed Donald Trump\u2019s attempt to rename AI \u2013 but for an 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