A dispute at a Southern California MMA gym morphed into a greater battle over transparency and fairness.<\/p>\n
After a death in the family disrupted work and finances, a member told the r\/legaladvice<\/a> subreddit that the gym answered a cancellation request by seeking large cancellation fees without providing the signed membership agreement.<\/p>\n Here’s what to know<\/p>\n In a post on Reddit<\/a>, the member described signing a 12-month agreement priced at $219 a month, along with a $415 sign-up fee. The poster said three months had been paid, bringing the total paid to $1,072.<\/p>\n The member said they asked the gym to consider a hardship exception. According to the post, management first wanted $1,500 to cancel, then reduced that amount to $1,250 and asked whether the member had Zelle. The member also shared a message allegedly sent by management.<\/p>\n It read: “We did been flexible, sorry for your loss we all go through tuff times and i completely understand you! But it’s how life goes with rules and policies, if you have a car payment you also gonna stop paying your car? Or you continue honor your agreement.”<\/p>\n The poster said they followed the gym website’s stated cancellation process by submitting the request in writing and giving 30 days’ notice. Still, they wrote that the key issue is they were “never given or emailed a copy of the membership agreement when I signed up.”<\/p>\n Replies in the thread focused more on recordkeeping than on the tone of the exchange. One commenter urged<\/a> the poster to “request the contract again and again and again and do it so that you have a paper trail of the requests.”<\/p>\n More background<\/p>\n One commenter used<\/a> the poster’s figures to calculate the full 12-month cost at $3,043. From that perspective, they deduced the gym was not necessarily imposing a simple cancellation fee, but instead seeking to recover part of the unpaid balance, and giving the original poster a break with the $1,250 figure.<\/p>\n Other commenters took a different view. One wrote<\/a>, “They’re banking on you folding under the guilt trip,” and several replies said any attempt to collect would likely turn on whether the gym could actually produce the agreement it says was signed.<\/p>\n The request for payment by Zelle also drew skepticism.<\/p>\n “I would def not send anyone money unless they produce the contract,” a commenter wrote<\/a>. “Also via Zelle? I get it’s a MMA gym but all of this seems really informal for a business.”<\/p>\n What can be done?<\/p>\n The most repeated advice was straightforward. Keep requesting the contract in writing and document every attempt. Another commenter said<\/a> it was a red flag that the business would not provide something “YOU signed.”<\/p>\n A few people suggested<\/a> a less confrontational alternative of pausing the membership for several months instead of canceling outright.<\/p>\n Some replies pointed the poster toward California-specific rules. One comment linked<\/a> to the state’s Overview of California’s Health Studio Services Contract Law and quoted<\/a> this line: “If a contract does not comply with the Health Studio Services Contract Law, it is void and unenforceable, and therefore subject to cancellation by you on that basis.”<\/p>\n Other commenters said the poster could contact their bank and stop future recurring charges if the gym would not cooperate.<\/p>\n “Block the charges and let them prove the debt exists,” they instructed<\/a>.<\/p>\n Where can I learn more?<\/p>\n Problems with contracts, surprise fees, and hard-to-exit subscriptions come up in all kinds of settings, not just at one California gym.<\/p>\n \u2022 In New York, officials rolled out a “click to cancel” rule<\/a> targeting subscription traps and hidden fees.<\/p>\n \u2022 Fashion Nova was forced to pay out millions to customers<\/a> after violating a major consumer protection law.<\/p>\n \u2022 New York Nissan dealers were accused of padding lease buyouts<\/a> with absurd fees, including 8-cent tape.<\/p>\n \u2022 A homebuyer discovered a $30,000 contract attached<\/a> to a house under a solar agreement.<\/p>\n Get TCD’s free newsletters<\/a> for easy tips, smart advice, and a chance to earn $5,000 toward home upgrades. 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