{"id":94105,"date":"2025-08-25T07:12:06","date_gmt":"2025-08-25T07:12:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/94105\/"},"modified":"2025-08-25T07:12:06","modified_gmt":"2025-08-25T07:12:06","slug":"elon-musk-just-suffered-a-humiliating-defeat-in-china","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/94105\/","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk Just Suffered a Humiliating Defeat in China"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So far, 2025 hasn&#8217;t exactly been a year of resounding success for centibillionaire\u00a0Elon Musk&#8217;s AI efforts.<\/p>\n<p>The richest man on earth has struggled to get xAI&#8217;s Grok off the ground, with setbacks taking the form of <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/grok-ai-chats-leaked-disturbing\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">privacy scandals<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/elon-musk-furious-at-his-ai\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">misinformation controversies<\/a>, not to mention a highly-public <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/grok-ai-elon-musk-white-genocide\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">white supremacy episode<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And now, more than a month after Musk promised to <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/elon-musk-says-hes-installing-his-racist-grok-ai-in-teslas-next-week\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">roll Grok out<\/a> to Teslas &#8220;next week,&#8221; it turns out a Chinese AI model will be taking the chatbot&#8217;s place.<\/p>\n<p>According <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2025-08-22\/tesla-to-integrate-deepseek-doubao-ai-voice-controls-in-china?srnd=phx-ai\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">to\u00a0Bloomberg<\/a>, Tesla&#8217;s Chinese division is planning to introduce in-car voice assistance via DeepSeek and Bytedance&#8217;s AI models at some point in the near future.<\/p>\n<p>Essentially, the voice-controlled software will let drivers utilize amenities like navigation apps and climate control hands-free. Bytedance&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/seed.bytedance.com\/en\/blog\/doubao-realtime-voice-model-is-available-upon-release-high-eq-and-iq\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Doubao<\/a>, the company&#8217;s flagship large language model (LLM) chatbot, will process user voice commands, while DeepSeek will handle &#8220;AI interaction,&#8221;\u00a0Bloomberg reported.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not clear why Grok wasn&#8217;t chosen for this honor, given the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/2025\/07\/01\/elon-musk-xai-raises-10-billion-in-debt-and-equity.html\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">staggering amount of money<\/a> Musk is pouring into xAI. The foul-mouthed chatbot began trickling out to US-based Teslas in the last month, with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reddit.com\/r\/TeslaLounge\/comments\/1me3yej\/grok_essentially_useless_with_even_moderate_road\/\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">mixed results<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Bloomberg, though, speculates that the western company could have hit some legal hurdles involved with integrating American tech into Chinese cars.<\/p>\n<p>Other theories abound, like that Chinese consumers simply have no interest in Grok, despite its\u00a0availability, unlike other US AI models \u2014 at least not compared to DeepSeek, which has become a symbol of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scmp.com\/news\/people-culture\/china-personalities\/article\/3301282\/hometown-deepseek-founder-becomes-tourist-hotspot-renovations-paid-government\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">national pride<\/a> for the People&#8217;s Republic since its open-source V3 model <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/silicon-valley-shambles-chinese-startup-deepseek\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">shocked the world<\/a> earlier this year.<\/p>\n<p>Known as the &#8220;low-cost equivalent&#8221; to heftier AI models developed in the US, DeepSeek recently released its impressive <a href=\"https:\/\/gizmodo.com\/deepseek-v-3-1-release-aider-score-china-ai-2000645531\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">V3.1 model<\/a>, which is said to score only slightly lower than Grok 4 on <a href=\"https:\/\/artificialanalysis.ai\/models\/comparisons\/deepseek-v3-1-reasoning-vs-grok-4\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">intelligence tests<\/a>,\u00a0and at one twelfth the cost.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s also the question of perception, with Musk&#8217;s empire in China <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/cd65d583qvzo\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">rapidly crumbling<\/a> over the past year;\u00a0even the US government-funded <a href=\"https:\/\/www.voachinese.com\/a\/grok-deepseek-china-20250218\/7979722.html\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Voice of America reported<\/a> earlier this year that Chinese netizens were &#8220;not impressed&#8221; with previous versions of Grok.<\/p>\n<p>DeepSeek, meanwhile, has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scmp.com\/business\/china-business\/article\/3298673\/how-deepseeks-ai-has-become-must-have-feature-chinese-smart-evs\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">inked deals<\/a> with two dozen Chinese automakers, including the <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/byd-crushing-tesla\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Tesla-killer BYD<\/a>, to install its software in new vehicles.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;While many recognize DeepSeek\u2019s achievements, this represents just the beginning of China\u2019s AI innovation wave,&#8221; Louis Liang, an AI investor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2025-07-24\/deepseek-trump-s-plan-steer-agenda-at-china-s-premier-ai-forum\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">told\u00a0Bloomberg<\/a> of the previous deals. &#8220;We are witnessing the advent of AI mass adoption \u2014 this goes beyond national competition.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">More on Grok: <a href=\"https:\/\/futurism.com\/choking-fumes-elon-musk-ai-fortress\" class=\"underline hover:text-futurism hover:no-underline transition-all duration-200 ease-in-out\" style=\"text-decoration-color:blue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Community Complains of Choking Fumes From Elon Musk&#8217;s AI Fortress<\/a><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"So far, 2025 hasn&#8217;t exactly been a year of resounding success for centibillionaire\u00a0Elon Musk&#8217;s AI efforts. 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