{"id":99468,"date":"2025-08-27T10:54:07","date_gmt":"2025-08-27T10:54:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/99468\/"},"modified":"2025-08-27T10:54:07","modified_gmt":"2025-08-27T10:54:07","slug":"groks-tips-on-how-to-assassinate-elon-musk-are-one-more-red-flag-for-wall-street","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/99468\/","title":{"rendered":"Grok&#8217;s Tips On How to Assassinate Elon Musk Are One More Red Flag For Wall Street"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Wall Street tech watchers that had only recently recovered from Elon Musk\u2019s AI chatbot <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/tech\/ai\/why-xais-grok-went-rogue-a81841b0?gaa_at=eafs&amp;gaa_n=ASWzDAjtOracCUic7ci8IuYtiWZlE4auKCTCLqlxjcypA0Zfj_5GVkABriOZd749wSE%3D&amp;gaa_ts=68ae7e7c&amp;gaa_sig=ayC-gU-pRLyNrMV-BrPk8Kr7P2j_PP0bOpcff9IAxhd3rrx5z-3l88VggRxa57jfvIYlGUMG85oSHFRGnl5XgA%3D%3D\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">going rogue<\/a> are now quietly reassessing the technology, after <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/iainmartin\/2025\/08\/20\/elon-musks-xai-published-hundreds-of-thousands-of-grok-chatbot-conversations\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">a new leak<\/a> of thousands of user conversations show it teaching people how to make drugs, assassinate Musk himself, and build malware and explosives.<\/p>\n<p>Luckily for xAI, the company that created Musk\u2019s AI chatbot Grok, it is not a publicly traded company, so no public investor or shareholder backlash has forced down its share price or pressured its executives to address the public about privacy concerns.<\/p>\n<p>But the extent of the leak has made it headline news for days and has sounded new alarms with privacy experts, who have already had a long summer filled with misbehaving tech and the companies, or billionaire moguls, that make it.<\/p>\n<p> So what did Grok do now? <\/p>\n<p>More than 370,000 user conversations with Grok were <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/iainmartin\/2025\/08\/20\/elon-musks-xai-published-hundreds-of-thousands-of-grok-chatbot-conversations\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">publicly exposed<\/a> through search engines like Google, Bing, and DuckDuckGo on Aug. 21. That led to the posting of a wide range of disturbing content and sent its xAI scrambling to contain the fallout and fix the malfunction that reportedly caused the leak.<\/p>\n<p>What kind of disturbing content? Well, in one instance, Grok offers up a detailed plan on how to assassinate Musk himself, before walking that back as \u201cagainst my policies.\u201d In another exchange, the chatbot also helpfully pointed users to instructions on how to make fentanyl at home or build explosives.<\/p>\n<p>Forbes, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/iainmartin\/2025\/08\/20\/elon-musks-xai-published-hundreds-of-thousands-of-grok-chatbot-conversations\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">which broke the story<\/a>, reports that the leak stemmed from an unintended malfunction in Grok\u2019s \u201cshare\u201d function, which allowed private chats to be indexed and accessed without user consent.<\/p>\n<p>Neither Musk nor xAI responded to a request for comment. Its creator has not yet publicly addressed the leak.<\/p>\n<p> So how detailed is detailed? <\/p>\n<p>In this instance, pretty detailed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe company prohibits use of its bot to \u201cpromot[e] critically harming human life or to \u2018develop bioweapons, chemical weapons, or weapons of mass destruction,&#8217;\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/iainmartin\/2025\/08\/20\/elon-musks-xai-published-hundreds-of-thousands-of-grok-chatbot-conversations\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Forbes reports.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut in published, shared conversations easily found via a Google search, Grok offered users instructions on how to make illicit drugs like fentanyl and methamphetamine, code a self-executing piece of malware and construct a bomb and methods of suicide,\u201d it said.<\/p>\n<p> Wait, what was that about assassinating Elon Musk? <\/p>\n<p>Yes, Forbes says that is also in this leak, and it was reportedly a pretty extensive plan.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGrok also offered a detailed plan for the assassination of Elon Musk,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/iainmartin\/2025\/08\/20\/elon-musks-xai-published-hundreds-of-thousands-of-grok-chatbot-conversations\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Forbes\u2019 reporting continues.<\/a> \u201cVia the \u2018share\u2019 function, the illicit instructions were then published on Grok\u2019s website and indexed by Google.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A day later, Grok offered a modified response and denied assistance that would incorporate violence, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fastcompany.com\/91376687\/google-indexing-chatgpt-conversations\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">saying<\/a>, \u201cI\u2019m sorry, but I can\u2019t assist with that request. Threats of violence or harm are serious and against my policies.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>When asked about self-harm, the chatbot redirected users to medical resources, including the Samaritans in the UK and American mental health organizations.<\/p>\n<p>It also revealed that some users appeared to experience \u201cAI psychosis\u201d when using Grok, Forbes reports, engaging in bizarre or delusional conversations, a trend that has been raising alarms about the mental health implications of deep engagement with these systems since the first chatbot became public.<\/p>\n<p> How could Grok be used in a business setting? <\/p>\n<p>Musk\u2019s chatbot caught Wall Street\u2019s eye pretty much as soon as it debuted in November 2023, But what xAI says it can do and what it actually has done continue to be in flux.<\/p>\n<p>The company says that Grok offers a range of functions that can be valuable for business operations, like using tools to automate routine tasks, analyze real-time market data from X, and streamline workflows through its application programming interface (API).<\/p>\n<p>The ways it could actually be used by businesses varies, but investors who have been kicking the tires on this particular chatbot have continued to raise concerns about its accuracy. The way the chatbot handles privacy is now front and center for experts.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">\u201cAI chatbots are a privacy disaster in progress,\u201d Luc Rocher, an associate professor at the Oxford Internet Institute, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/cdrkmk00jy0o\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">told the BBC<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Rocher said users disclosed everything from their mental health to how they run their businesses. \u201cOnce leaked online, these conversations will stay there forever,\u201d they added.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">Carissa Veliz, an associate professor in philosophy at Oxford University\u2019s Institute for Ethics in AI, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/articles\/cdrkmk00jy0o\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">told the BBC<\/a> that Grok\u2019s \u201cproblematic\u201d practice of not disclosing which data will be public is concerning.<\/p>\n<p class=\"sc-9a00e533-0 hxuGS\">\u201cOur technology doesn\u2019t even tell us what it\u2019s doing with our data, and that\u2019s a problem,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>Grok has also been <a href=\"https:\/\/stockstotrade.com\/grok-ai-stock\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">studied by analysts and researchers<\/a> to test if it has the potential to increase productivity, but how reliable it is at relaying correct information remains a work in progress. Without consistently truthful and verifiable information, it is likely still too nascent to do much without having serious oversight over its possible accuracy or bias.<\/p>\n<p>For many analysts and advisers, that makes investing in Grok a proceed-with-caution scenario.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSpeculation isn\u2019t bad, but unmanaged speculation is dangerous. Grok is a hot story, but it\u2019s still early stage,\u201d Tim Bohen, a writer at Stocks to Trade, <a href=\"https:\/\/stockstotrade.com\/grok-ai-stock\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">says<\/a> in a recent column. \u201cThe model could stall. The platform could underperform. The hype cycle could peak before fundamentals catch up. Traders need to know the risks.\u201d<\/p>\n<p> Musk previously flamed ChatGPT for a similar leak <\/p>\n<p>In a classic episode of Musk\u2019s ongoing telenovela with the world, OpenAI also experimented briefly with a similar share function earlier this year. It ended that functionality quickly after around <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fastcompany.com\/91376687\/google-indexing-chatgpt-conversations\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">4,500 conversations were indexed by Google<\/a> and the issue grabbed media attention\u2014but not before problem had caught Musk\u2019s attention, <a href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1951243126468911224\" rel=\"nofollow\">leading him to tweet<\/a>, \u201c\u2018Grok FTW.\u201d Unlike OpenAI, Grok\u2019s \u201cShare\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Users who have now found their private conversations with Grok leaked told Forbes they were shocked by the development, particularly given Musk\u2019s earlier criticism of a similar tool.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was surprised that Grok chats shared with my team were getting automatically indexed on Google, despite no warnings of it, especially after the recent flare-up with ChatGPT,\u201d Nathan Lambert, a computational scientist at the Allen Institute for AI who had his exchange with the chatbot leaked, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/iainmartin\/2025\/08\/20\/elon-musks-xai-published-hundreds-of-thousands-of-grok-chatbot-conversations\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">told the Forbes.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Wall Street tech watchers that had only recently recovered from Elon Musk\u2019s AI chatbot going rogue are now&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":99469,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[256,33086,254,255,64,63,4943,10646,105],"class_list":{"0":"post-99468","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-artificial-intelligence","8":"tag-ai","9":"tag-artificial-intellience","10":"tag-artificial-intelligence","11":"tag-artificialintelligence","12":"tag-au","13":"tag-australia","14":"tag-emerging-technologies","15":"tag-grok","16":"tag-technology"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99468","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=99468"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99468\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/99469"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=99468"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=99468"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/au\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=99468"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}