Lionel: I think I started changing what I wore in the 80s. Early 80s. I always had to ask myself, “What am I gonna wear?” I got sick and tired of it, and I like black, so I went to just wear black clothes. Everything I wear is black.  

Carolyn: We used to play in a dart league at the Moose, about 10-12 years ago. He used to play in the men’s division. The darts he used were all feathered. 

Lionel: For the colour that was on the flight on the dart, I would wear the same colour shirt. I used to wear blue, green, red, white. 

Carolyn: Every colour there was, he wore the same colour. We ran the league for about 15 years; I would say all the way to the 1980s. After we got older, we stopped. 

Lionel: I started wearing black, so I don’t have to worry about what to choose; if everything’s black, I can grab anything in there. Then what I’ll do is buy three pairs of pants, the same black pants, right away, so I don’t have to worry about it. I got into that style, and I stayed with it.  

Carolyn: Well, black’s the easiest color, right? 

Lionel: Sometime’s I’ll be asked, “What colour are you wearing this time?”   I’ll tell them something like, “I don’t know if this time I should go with the light black or the dark black.” 

Carolyn: They don’t all match quite as often as you’d think. “This black doesn’t match that black.” 

Lionel: I don’t have those problems, I just say “Look, I’ll take the black one today.” That’s when I had to have started wearing my cowboy hats, at the same time. I’d say that started when country-western ran in, about 1980, when it really picked up.   Since I was a kid, I liked cowboy hats. I’ve got a picture, from when I was about eight years old – I had a hat, cowboy hat. So, it goes way back. 

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Lionel: Kwah í:kehre’ 80 shiiohserò:ten’s takatáhsawen’ tsi tekténie’s tsi nahò:ten’ wakátston, shiiotonní:ha ne 80 niiohserò:ten’s. 

Tiótkon wa’kataterihwanón:tonhse’, “Oh nahò:ten’ kwah katstà:ne’?” Onkwaterihonkóhten’ thí:ken, tánon’ kenòn:we’s kahòn:tsi, sok thò:ne nek kahòn:tsi niwathseronniahtsherò:ten’s wà:katste’. Kahòn:tsi nen’ nè:’e nakwé:kon ne nahò:ten’ kátstha’.

Carolyn:

Tekanonhkwen’áneren raotitióhkwa’ shos iakwatswà:tha’ ne Ska’niónhsa Raotitióhkwa’ nonkwá:ti, ákta oié:ri tóka’ ni’ tékeni iawén:re niiohserá:ke tsi náhe’. Ronnón:kwe raotinèn:rakon shos ratswà:tha’. Akwé:kon kahrá:ton tsi niká:ien’ tekanonhkwen’áneren rátsthahkwe’. 

Lionel:

Néne tsi niwahsohkò:ten ononhkwen’à:ke iothrá:ton, nè:’e shos shonhsóhkwa atià:tawi én:katste’. Oròn:ia’, óhonte’, onekwénhtara’, karà:ken shos wakátston-

Carolyn:

Akwé:kon tsi ní:kon wahsóhkwaien’, wà:ratste’ se’ ne shonhsóhkwa. Ákta wísk iawén:re niiohserá:ke wa’akwahténtia’te’ thí:ken raotitióhkwa’; akì:ron’ tsi niió:re’ 80 niiohserò:ten’s. Ohnà:ken shontaionkwaién:ta’ne’, wa’tiakwá:ta’ne’. 

Lionel: 

Takatáhsawen kahòn:tsi wà:katste’, ne ki’ iah tha’teiotonhontsóhon’ takatate’nikonhrhá:ren’ tsi nahò:ten akerá:ko’; tóka’ akwé:kon kahòn:tsi ní:ioht, thikawenní:io nahò:ten enwá:ton’ enkerá:ko. Sok thò:ne tsi néntiere’ áhsen niwathahsterenhtsherà:ke enkhní:non, ne shà:ka kahòn:tsi atháhsteren, óksak tho néntiere’ ne ki’ ne tóhsa takatate’nikonhrhá:ren’ eh nón:we aorihwà:ke. Tho ní:tsi’ wa’kerèn:nha, tánon ionsakatahsónteren’ thí:ken’. 

 Carolyn:

Kahòn:tsi ne naonhà:’a tewatié:sen nd tsi niwahsohkò:tens, wáhi?

 Lionel: 

Sewatieren’shòn:’a enionkerihwanón:ton’se, “Oh niwahsohkò:ten satstà:ne nòn:wa?”

Enkhehró:ri’ nahò:ten tsi ní:ioht ne, “Iah tewakaterièn:tare’ tóka’ wahsohkwarà:ken kahòn:tsi tóka’ni wahsohkwahòn:tsi kahòn:tsi én:katste’ nòn:wa.”

 Carolyn:

Iah akwé:kon tha’teskontén:ro tsi niiotkà:te áhsehre’. “Kí:ken kahòn:tsi iah tha’testiatén:ro thí:ken kahòn:tsi.”

Lionel: 

Iah othé:nen’ tewátien ne tho nika’nikonhrhahtsherò:tens, nek enkì:ron, “He, én:katste’ thí:ken kahòn:tsi òn:wa wenhniserá:te’.”” Thò:ne ki’ wáhi á:kehre’ takatáhsawen’ wà:katste ne iakohsaténstha akwanòn:warore’, khénska. Enkì:ron’ tontáhsawen’ thí:ken shontakaiakénstahkwe’ ne iakohsaténstha tsi nikarihò:tens, ákta ne 1980 shiiohserò:ten, shikahá:wi’ kwah wa’kanákeren’ne. 

Tsi nek keksà:’ahkwe’, kenòn:we’skwe’ thí:ken iakohsaténstha anòn:warore. Tià:tare wátien, ákta sha’té:kon sha’tewakohseriià:kon nitió:ien’, wakanonhwaroròn:ne, iakohsaténstha wakanonhwaroròn;ne. Wahón:nise tsi náhe nitió:ien’.