{"id":124626,"date":"2025-09-06T16:28:07","date_gmt":"2025-09-06T16:28:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/124626\/"},"modified":"2025-09-06T16:28:07","modified_gmt":"2025-09-06T16:28:07","slug":"what-is-the-nucleus-size-of-3i-atlas-by-avi-loeb-sep-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/124626\/","title":{"rendered":"What is the Nucleus Size of 3I\/ATLAS? | by Avi Loeb | Sep, 2025"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a rel=\"noopener follow nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/avi-loeb.medium.com\/?source=post_page---byline--ba523b085fe1---------------------------------------\" data-discover=\"true\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Avi Loeb\" class=\"m fk by bz ca de\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/1*upiboNSChj1BIvycXiID7w.png\" width=\"32\" height=\"32\" loading=\"lazy\" data-testid=\"authorPhoto\"\/><\/a>Press enter or click to view image in full size<img alt=\"\" class=\"bi lt ng c\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" loading=\"eager\" role=\"presentation\"\/>(Credit: <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Plume_%28fluid_dynamics%29#\/media\/File:Defense.gov_photo_essay_100506-N-6070S-346.jpg\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Wikimedia<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p id=\"9dcf\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">The biggest unresolved question about the interstellar object <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/3I\/ATLAS\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">3I\/ATLAS<\/a> involves the size of its nucleus. Yesterday, I emphasized this point in a recorded discussion with congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna and Peter Skafish (available <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=m4RtDNkvJH0\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>) and a podcast with Brian Keating and Michael Shermer (<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ZZQ8v9URPxY\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p id=\"200c\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">One would have hoped to get clues about the nature of 3I\/ATLAS from the plume of gas around it. Data from the Webb space telescope (reported <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2508.18209\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), the SPHEREx space observatory (<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2508.15469\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>) and the Very Large Telescope (<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2508.18382\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), show that this plume stretches out to a vast scale of at least 350,000 kilometers and is composed primarily of carbon dioxide \u2014 CO2 (87% by mass), carbon monoxide \u2014 CO (9%), water \u2014 H2O (most of the remaining 4%), and traces of cyanide \u2014 CN, as well as nickel without iron (as found in the industrial production of nickel alloys through the carbonyl chemical pathway). However, such a plume could emanate from a natural icy rock or a technological source.<\/p>\n<p id=\"344b\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">That this plume of gas is shaped by the solar radiation and solar wind to a teardrop shape, as observed last week by the Gemini South telescope (<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/noirlab.edu\/public\/news\/noirlab2525\/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>), is a straightforward consequence of gas dynamics and not a clue about the nature of the nucleus. The situation is akin to observing a plume of smoke carried by the wind. Without a resolved image of the source of the smoke, we cannot tell whether it originates from a burning log of wood or the exhaust of a car.<\/p>\n<p id=\"90c0\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">The sharpest image of 3I\/ATLAS so far was obtained on July 21, 2025 by the Hubble Space Telescope (reported <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/iopscience.iop.org\/article\/10.3847\/2041-8213\/adf8d8\/pdf\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>). It showed a glow of scattered sunlight ahead of the nucleus towards the Sun but no tail in the opposite direction. The sun-facing glow on that date could not have been dominated by refractory dust with a particle size comparable to the wavelength of sunlight because solar radiation pressure would have pushed the dust within a day to trail 3I\/ATLAS in the shape of a typical cometary tail. That such a tail was not observed on July 21, 2025 beyond the transverse width of the glow implies that the scattering of sunlight was dominated by icy fragments that evaporated before they had an opportunity to trail 3I\/ATLAS. The main open question is which fraction of the reflected sunlight originates from these icy fragments compared to the solid surface of the nucleus of 3I\/ATLAS.<\/p>\n<p id=\"e0a1\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">The brightness of 3I\/ATLAS at a wavelength of 1 micrometer implies a nucleus diameter of 46 kilometer (as calculated <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2508.15469\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>) for a typical albedo of 4%. However, if 99% of the brightness stems from icy fragments around 3I\/ATLAS, then the nucleus diameter is ten times smaller, of order 5 kilometers. But even in this reduced size case, the mass carried by 3I\/ATLAS is still a thousand times bigger than that carried by the previous interstellar object <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2209.08182\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">2I\/Borisov<\/a>, whose diameter was estimated to be ~0.5 kilometers. The mass loss rate from 3I\/ATLAS is a few times bigger than that from 2I\/Borisov, whereas its surface area is larger by a factor ranging between ~100 for a 5-kilometer diameter to ~10,000 for a 46-kilometer diameter. The activity of 3I\/ATLAS is very weak when calibrated by its large surface area.<\/p>\n<p id=\"c367\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">In order to assess how anomalous 3I\/ATLAS is, it is essential to measure the size of its nucleus. How can we accomplish this task?<\/p>\n<p id=\"68fe\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">On October 3, 2025, 3I\/ATLAS will pass at a distance of 29 million kilometers from the <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/science.nasa.gov\/mission\/mars-reconnaissance-orbiter\/science-instruments\/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">HiRISE camera<\/a> onboard the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter. The camera\u2019s 0.5-meter aperture will be able to image 3I\/ATLAS with a resolution of 30 kilometers per pixel. The glowing cloud around 3I\/ATLAS is optically thin (transparent). Hence, the total luminosity emanating from the central pixel in the HiRISE image will provide a strict upper limit on the nucleus brightness and hence its size, better by two orders of magnitude than the Hubble Space Telescope image.<\/p>\n<p id=\"a7f7\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">Fortunately, the trajectory of 3I\/ATLAS is aligned to within 5 degrees from the ecliptic plane, allowing it to arrive not only close to Mars but also within 54 million kilometers from Jupiter on March 16, 2026. These remarkable circumstances bring 3I\/ATLAS also close to the Juno spacecraft around Jupiter, as discussed in my paper <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2507.21402\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a> and recognized by the visionary letter from congresswoman Luna <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/lweb.cfa.harvard.edu\/~loeb\/APL_NASA.pdf\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p id=\"0750\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">We cannot expect \u201c<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/if_the_mountain_won%27t_come_to_Muhammad\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">the mountain to come to Muhammad<\/a>\u201d routinely in the context of future interstellar objects coming close to human-made probes, unless we are visited by alien probes which target solar system planets. For random trajectories with a high inclination angle relative to the ecliptic plane, such as in the cases of the first two interstellar objects, <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/2209.08182\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">1I\/`Oumuamua (122.8 degrees) or 2I\/Borisov (44 degrees)<\/a>, the task of resolving an interstellar object in a close-up image would be far more challenging than for 3I\/ATLAS. It would be necessary to design an interceptor with a camera similar to HiRISE that maneuvers to arrive at the right time within a distance of a million kilometers from the expected path an interstellar object like 3I\/ATLAS, in order to get a pixel resolution of 1-kilometer for the nucleus. A <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/phys.org\/news\/2025-09-mission-encounter-explore-future-interstellar.html\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">future NASA mission<\/a> could aim to deploy such an interceptor in a waiting position for the future harvest of interstellar objects expected from the <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/rubinobservatory.org\/\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Rubin Observatory<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p id=\"cef0\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">After all, a picture is worth a thousand words.<\/p>\n<p id=\"393f\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">ABOUT THE AUTHOR<\/p>\n<p>Press enter or click to view image in full size<img alt=\"\" class=\"bi lt ng c\" width=\"700\" height=\"1060\" loading=\"lazy\" role=\"presentation\"\/>(Image Credit: Chris Michel, National Academy of Sciences, 2023)<\/p>\n<p id=\"8fcc\" class=\"pw-post-body-paragraph nm nn hd no b np nq nr ns nt nu nv nw nx ny nz oa ob oc od oe of og oh oi oj gw bl\">Avi Loeb is the head of the Galileo Project, founding director of Harvard University\u2019s \u2014 Black Hole Initiative, director of the Institute for Theory and Computation at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, and the former chair of the astronomy department at Harvard University (2011\u20132020). He is a former member of the President\u2019s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology and a former chair of the Board on Physics and Astronomy of the National Academies. He is the bestselling author of \u201c<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/extraterrestrial-avi-loeb?variant=39935330418722\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Extraterrestrial:<\/a> <a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/extraterrestrial-avi-loeb?variant=39935330418722\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth<\/a>\u201d and a co-author of the textbook \u201c<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.hup.harvard.edu\/catalog.php?isbn=9780674987579\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Life in the Cosmos<\/a>\u201d, both published in 2021. The paperback edition of his new book, titled \u201c<a class=\"ah nl\" href=\"https:\/\/www.harpercollins.com\/products\/interstellar-avi-loeb-1?variant=40982888415266\" rel=\"noopener ugc nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Interstellar<\/a>\u201d, was published in August 2024.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Press enter or click to view image in full size(Credit: Wikimedia) The biggest unresolved question about the interstellar&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":124627,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[24],"tags":[49,48,314,66],"class_list":{"0":"post-124626","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-physics","8":"tag-ca","9":"tag-canada","10":"tag-physics","11":"tag-science"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/124626","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=124626"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/124626\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/124627"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=124626"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=124626"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=124626"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}