{"id":131700,"date":"2025-09-09T17:13:08","date_gmt":"2025-09-09T17:13:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/131700\/"},"modified":"2025-09-09T17:13:08","modified_gmt":"2025-09-09T17:13:08","slug":"tiff-ceo-cameron-bailey-speaks-out-on-reversal-of-oct-7-documentary-i-know-i-caused-a-lot-of-pain","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/131700\/","title":{"rendered":"TIFF CEO Cameron Bailey speaks out on reversal of Oct. 7 documentary: \u2018I know I caused a lot of pain\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/XF3YR6FQ7RCENFZYZTLWBWVY4U.jpg?auth=a101c53134fac6cabdfb711478c2505afebef4e73f3c5481f337e140aa887b76&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Cameron Bailey, pictured at TIFF earlier this week, says of the Oct. 7 documentary: &#8216;I hope that people go in and appreciate the story that\u2019s being told.&#8217;Kennedy Pollard\/Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The second half of the Toronto International Film Festival is typically a more casual and relaxed affair, with most of the bigger Hollywood names and international press having left the city. Yet on Wednesday, TIFF will host one of the most headline-grabbing events in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-on-tiffs-50th-anniversary-50-moments-that-define-canadas-glitziest\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-on-tiffs-50th-anniversary-50-moments-that-define-canadas-glitziest\/\">recent festival history<\/a>, with the world premiere of Canadian director Barry Avrich\u2019s documentary <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-oct-7-tiff-documentary-the-road-between-us-barry-avrich\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-oct-7-tiff-documentary-the-road-between-us-barry-avrich\/\">The Road Between Us: The Ultimate Rescue<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The film follows retired Israel Defense Forces Major-General Noam Tibon as he races from Tel Aviv to his son\u2019s home on the Nahal Oz kibbutz near the Gaza border on Oct. 7, 2023, the day that Hamas militants attacked Israel. After TIFF initially accepted Avrich\u2019s film into its 2025 lineup, the doc was pulled because, according to festival organizers at the time, \u201cgeneral requirements for inclusion in the festival\u201d were not met. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-oct-7-tiff-documentary-the-road-between-us-barry-avrich\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Canadian director of Oct. 7 TIFF documentary The Road Between Us on festival\u2019s reversal: \u2018Watch the film, and make up your own mind\u2019<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Days later, following condemnation from Canadian politicians on the municipal, provincial and federal levels, as well as Jewish-advocacy organizations across the world, the film was reinstated into the festival\u2019s lineup, with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-tiff-oct-7-documentary-barry-avrich-reach-agreement\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-tiff-oct-7-documentary-barry-avrich-reach-agreement\/\">TIFF chief executive Cameron Bailey apologizing<\/a> for not clearly articulating \u201cthe concerns and roadblocks that arose.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Ahead of the film\u2019s world premiere Wednesday afternoon at Roy Thomson Hall, TIFF\u2019s largest venue, Bailey spoke exclusively with The Globe and Mail about the programming decisions behind the film, and the ensuing controversy\u2019s impact on the organization. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Can you briefly walk me through the timeline, starting from when the film was first submitted to TIFF?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The film was submitted, went through the usual programming channels and was not selected initially. In the context of over 9,000 submissions this year, it just didn\u2019t make the cut. I then heard that Barry wanted another look at it from us, and we arranged another screening. I think there\u2019s real merit in the story being seen, and I made the decision to include the film in the festival. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">However, with a documentary, especially one about a sensitive subject matter, we typically ask for a more thorough set of requirements. And as we were going through the process, we were running out of time to finalize the festival. There were some things the filmmakers were able to deliver quickly, and others not. At a certain point, we didn\u2019t have everything that we requested, and that\u2019s when I made the decision to reverse what I had originally said. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">And I regret that, and it\u2019s something that I know caused a lot of pain and hurt in the Jewish community in particular, and I apologize for that. So we worked quickly to resolve things with Barry and his team, and were able to come to a resolution. But in that time a lot of harm had been done, and a lot of misinformation was out there. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When a film is submitted and doesn\u2019t make the cut, is it typical for you to go back and take a second look? Did the film receive any above-and-beyond consideration, given Barry\u2019s history with TIFF, from serving on its board to philanthropically supporting the organization over the years?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It\u2019s not unusual. I\u2019m asked several times every year to look at films that members of our programming team, for various reasons, have chosen not to invite. I try not to get too involved in the programming process. I don\u2019t have the context, for instance, of all the other documentaries that were submitted. But there are cases where I\u2019m asked to give a second pair of eyes, and I\u2019m also looking at different things. What I try to do, along with our chief of programming, is to have the context of the overall festival in mind, not just a specific section. That was the case here. I feel it\u2019s an important film to show.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Going back to those terms and conditions: the reports that spread about the filmmakers needing to secure rights permission from Hamas for the live-stream footage of the attacks that day \u2013 can you break that down in reality?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">At no point did we ask the filmmakers to seek approval or clearance from Hamas, a terrorist organization. That is, of course, something that we wouldn\u2019t do. We were asking for assurances from the filmmakers themselves, and we got most of what we asked for. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What assurances did you not receive? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I don\u2019t want to get too deep into this process, but it was essentially a kind of legal assurance that we did not fully have.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">But the issues have been resolved fully enough so the film can be shown under the aegis of the festival? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Yeah, they have been. We\u2019re happy with the resolution. It just took that time to work things out. And in that time there was a lot of other stories floating around. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">There was an e-mail sent from your office to the filmmakers citing the doc\u2019s withdrawal because of \u201cthe risk of major, disruptive protest actions around the film\u2019s presence at the festival, including internal opposition.\u201d Is there dissent inside the organization, particularly among the programming team, about this title\u2019s selection? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Any time the CEO overrides a programming decision, that\u2019s not an easy thing, and that\u2019s certainly the case here. In terms of disruption, we know that the subject of the film is incredibly charged right now. There was a concern that there was a risk of the kind of disruption that we saw last year [with<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-canadian-russian-director-responds-to-tiff-documentary-backlash-says\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-canadian-russian-director-responds-to-tiff-documentary-backlash-says\/\"> Russians at War<\/a>], where it was very hard for parts of the festival to continue. So this was part of the context of the decisions I was making.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-tiff-opening-weekend\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-tiff-opening-weekend\/\">festival\u2019s opening weekend has already seen two sizable protests<\/a>, ostensibly regarding this film\u2019s programming. What are your thoughts on these demonstrations and what are the plans for safety and security at the Wednesday premiere? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">This is the world we\u2019re living in right now, and we\u2019re a festival that will continue to show films from multiple perspectives about ongoing conflicts. That\u2019s just the nature of films, and sometimes that will provoke protests. We respect and will always appreciate the right to protest within the bounds of freedom of expression that doesn\u2019t veer into hate speech. I can\u2019t speak to security plans for the screening, which need to be kept confidential. But I\u2019ll just say that, yes, we have been thinking and planning to make sure that the screening is conducted in a secure manner.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I\u2019ll ask you the same question that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-oct-7-tiff-documentary-the-road-between-us-barry-avrich\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-oct-7-tiff-documentary-the-road-between-us-barry-avrich\/\">I put to the filmmakers<\/a>: What would you say to those, including <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-tiff-opening-weekend\/\" target=\"_self\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/arts\/film\/tiff\/article-tiff-opening-weekend\/\">artists with titles at this year\u2019s festival<\/a>, who contend that a festival such as Toronto should not program or platform a film about Israeli military action at a time when the war in Gaza is still raging, when authorities like the World Food Program report that the area is gripped by famine, when there are images coming out of Gaza every day that are devastating to look at?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">This film is actually about what happened to a family on that day. I\u2019ve seen it twice now, and it stays within those bounds. And because it does, I\u2019m happy to screen it at our festival. I\u2019m very aware and sensitive to the absolute humanitarian crisis that\u2019s going on in Gaza right now. We also have films at the festival that deal with that. We want to make sure that, as a film festival, we are responsibly presenting films that reflect what is one of the worst crises in our world right now, and we\u2019ll continue to do that. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Why did the film receive a single public screening and no press and industry screening? That\u2019s not unprecedented, but it is atypical.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The thing to remember is that all of this happened after the selection of our festival was closed and locked. We were working within very limited parameters. And the one screening that we\u2019re doing is several times larger than was originally being planned, and I hope that\u2019s able to accommodate everyone, including the media, who want to see it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">What are your hopes for the premiere on Wednesday, which I understand you will introduce? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I\u2019ll be introducing the film, yes. My understanding is that the filmmakers are going to get a journalist to moderate the Q&amp;A session afterward. I hope that people go in and appreciate the story that\u2019s being told. It\u2019s important to make sure that we remain empathetic to everyone who is a victim of violence. Filmmakers sometimes are able to tell these stories in the most persuasive, affecting way. I think that\u2019s the best we can hope for with the screenings at the festival.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">This interview has been condensed and edited.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Open this photo in gallery: Cameron Bailey, pictured at TIFF earlier this week, says of the Oct. 7&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":131701,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27],"tags":[901,888,902,879,877,903,49,48,876,895,896,891,878,875,46,549,75,295,894,887,914,880,881,893,889,890,884,904,337,885,909,910,912,907,911,905,908,882,898,899,714,897,906,865,61,900,892,886,883,913],"class_list":["post-131700","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-movies","tag-alberta","tag-arts-news","tag-bc","tag-breaking-news","tag-breaking-news-video","tag-british-columbia","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-canada-news","tag-canada-sports","tag-canada-sports-news","tag-canada-trafficcanada-weather","tag-canadian-breaking-news","tag-canadian-news","tag-economy","tag-education","tag-entertainment","tag-environment","tag-federal-government","tag-foreign-news","tag-globe-and-mail","tag-globe-and-mail-breaking-news","tag-globe-and-mail-canada-news","tag-government","tag-life-news","tag-lifestyle","tag-local-news","tag-manitoba","tag-movies","tag-national-news","tag-new-brunswick","tag-newfoundland-and-labrador","tag-northwest-territories","tag-nova-scotia","tag-nunavut","tag-ontario","tag-pei","tag-photos","tag-political-news","tag-political-opinion","tag-politics","tag-politics-news","tag-quebec","tag-sports-news","tag-technology","tag-travel","tag-trudeau","tag-us-news","tag-world-news","tag-yukon"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/131700","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=131700"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/131700\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/131701"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=131700"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=131700"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=131700"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}