{"id":134554,"date":"2025-09-10T20:23:14","date_gmt":"2025-09-10T20:23:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/134554\/"},"modified":"2025-09-10T20:23:14","modified_gmt":"2025-09-10T20:23:14","slug":"openai-pushes-for-canadian-publishers-copyright-lawsuit-to-be-heard-in-the-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/134554\/","title":{"rendered":"OpenAI pushes for Canadian publishers\u2019 copyright lawsuit to be heard in the US"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>AI giant argues its models were trained outside of Ontario, while publishers say content is Canadian.<\/p>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p>As Canadian news publishers allege that OpenAI violated Canadian copyright law in training ChatGPT, the artificial intelligence (AI) company is arguing that the case should be heard in the United States (US).<\/p>\n<p>A group of Canadian news outlets <a href=\"https:\/\/betakit.com\/major-canadian-news-orgs-sue-openai-for-copyright-infringement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">filed a suit against OpenAI last November<\/a> in Ontario court, claiming that the AI giant used news content without authorization to train the GPT large language models (LLMs) powering its popular chatbot. The publishers include the Toronto Star\u2019s parent company Torstar, Postmedia, The Globe and Mail, CBC\/Radio-Canada, and The Canadian Press.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOpenAI using other companies\u2019 journalism for their own commercial gain is not [fair]. It\u2019s illegal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Canadian news publishers\u2019 joint statement<\/p>\n<p>OpenAI is set to challenge the Ontario Superior Court\u2019s jurisdiction in hearing the case today, as The Canadian Press <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bnnbloomberg.ca\/business\/artificial-intelligence\/2025\/09\/10\/openai-argues-canadian-news-publishers-lawsuit-should-be-heard-in-us\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">first reported<\/a>. In a court filing, the San Francisco-headquartered OpenAI argued that all of its commercial activities\u2014including training AI models\u2014occurred outside of Ontario and should not be subject to Canada\u2019s Copyright Act. OpenAI originally filed a notice of motion to dismiss or suspend the proceedings in February.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe legal framework most directly implicated is U.S. copyright law,\u201d the document reads.<\/p>\n<p>AI developers like OpenAI rely on massive amounts of data, mostly taken from the open web, to train LLMs. Canadian news publishers allege that OpenAI breached Canada\u2019s Copyright Act when it \u201cbrazenly misappropriate[d]\u201d their news content and used it to train ChatGPT\u2019s associated models without consent.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOpenAI\u2019s public statements that it is somehow fair or in the public interest for them to use other companies\u2019 intellectual property for their own commercial gain is wrong,\u201d the news publishers said in a joint statement. \u201cOpenAI using other companies\u2019 journalism for their own commercial gain is not [fair]. It\u2019s illegal.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The group is seeking damages, profits that OpenAI has made from the alleged infringement, and an injunction to prevent future use of its content. These damages could include as much as $20,000 per allegedly infringed work, which totals over 10 million works since 2015, according to the lawsuit.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>According to OpenAI\u2019s filing, the news publishers argued that this case relates to questions of national sovereignty and the importance of journalism. OpenAI called for these \u201cappeals to sentiment\u201d to be rejected as \u201cdistractions.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>RELATED: <a href=\"https:\/\/betakit.com\/major-canadian-news-orgs-sue-openai-for-copyright-infringement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">Major Canadian news orgs sue OpenAI for copyright infringement<\/a><\/p>\n<p>OpenAI also claimed that some of the plaintiffs\u2019 case materials expanded the original claim to include not only unauthorized use of content for AI model training, but the outputs of the models, as well. The company contrasted this with a <a href=\"https:\/\/betakit.com\/major-media-companies-sue-cohere-for-alleged-copyright-infringement\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">separate lawsuit against Canadian LLM developer Cohere<\/a>, filed in New York by a different group of publishers, that alleges copyright infringement through AI model output, as well as training.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>OpenAI was granted a sealing order for certain documents related to this case in July, according to court documents. The information it sought to protect from the public included descriptions of \u201cbusiness dealings, artificial intelligence systems, or model training and inference processes,\u201d as well as an organizational chart.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This is not the only lawsuit OpenAI is facing that alleges copyright infringement, but it is the first of its kind in Canada. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/12\/27\/business\/media\/new-york-times-open-ai-microsoft-lawsuit.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">The New York Times<\/a> made comparable allegations against OpenAI and its backer, Microsoft, which was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/books\/2025\/apr\/04\/us-authors-copyright-lawsuits-against-openai-and-microsoft-combined-in-new-york-with-newspaper-actions\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">combined<\/a> with a separate suit by US authors.<\/p>\n<p>Other AI copyright cases have recently been resolved. Anthropic <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/legal\/litigation\/anthropic-reaches-deal-ai-guardrails-lawsuit-over-music-lyrics-2025-01-03\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">struck an agreement<\/a> in a suit brought by music publishers over song lyrics, and agreed to a $1.5-billion USD <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/news\/business\/anthropic-ai-copyright-settlement-1.7626707\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">settlement<\/a> with book authors. Toronto\u2019s Thomson Reuters<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/thomson-reuters-ai-copyright-lawsuit\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\"> won its case<\/a> against now-defunct legaltech startup <a href=\"https:\/\/betakit.com\/ross-intelligence-files-counterclaim-against-thomson-reuters-after-announcing-cease-of-operations\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">Ross Intelligence<\/a> in February, though the startup was <a href=\"https:\/\/betakit.com\/bench-iq-raises-7-3-million-cad-for-ai-platform-analyzing-judicial-rulings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">granted an appeal<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Canada launched a public consultation in 2023 to explore the use of copyright-protected works in the training of AI systems, but it has not yet produced legislation. Cohere, Google, and OpenAI-backer Microsoft have previously <a href=\"https:\/\/betakit.com\/academics-nonprofits-ai-copyright-cohere-anthropic-openai\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">asked the federal government<\/a> for a legal exemption to the Copyright Act that would allow them to use copyrighted materials to train their models without paying or obtaining permission. Earlier this summer, AI Minister Evan Solomon said the federal government is waiting for copyright cases to <a href=\"https:\/\/betakit.com\/light-tight-and-right-regulation-minister-evan-solomon-unpacks-how-canada-plans-to-support-domestic-ai-and-quantum-computing\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\" title=\"\">play out in the courts<\/a> before making final decisions.<\/p>\n<p>Feature image courtesy Wikimedia Commons.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"AI giant argues its models were trained outside of Ontario, while publishers say content is Canadian. &#13; As&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":134555,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[62,49,48,14470,14088,44,905,278,73266,14472,944,1837,3302,73265],"class_list":["post-134554","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-canada","tag-ai","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-cbc","tag-legal","tag-news","tag-ontario","tag-openai","tag-postmedia","tag-radio-canada","tag-the-canadian-press","tag-the-globe-and-mail","tag-toronto","tag-torstar"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/134554","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=134554"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/134554\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/134555"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=134554"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=134554"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=134554"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}