{"id":154508,"date":"2025-09-19T08:43:07","date_gmt":"2025-09-19T08:43:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/154508\/"},"modified":"2025-09-19T08:43:07","modified_gmt":"2025-09-19T08:43:07","slug":"canada-weighing-direct-contract-with-foreign-governments-for-sub-purchase-head-of-navy-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/154508\/","title":{"rendered":"Canada weighing direct contract with foreign governments for sub purchase, head of navy says"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/3QPHVHI4BBBJLNOVUVZWQ6YEWY.JPG?auth=37dba5d579783a2d34d9b3bd4e99ee995bd925c0dd6c9deeb0fd64264aed17b7&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Members of the Royal Canadian Navy stand aboard the HMCS Corner Brook submarine docked in North Vancouver, B.C. Canada has narrowed down its hunt for a new fleet of submarines to two suppliers.DARRYL DYCK\/The Canadian Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Ottawa is weighing contracting directly with the South Korean or German and Norwegian governments instead of manufacturers in its coming purchase of a fleet of submarines, the commander of Canada\u2019s navy said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The federal government recently announced it has narrowed its hunt for up to 12 submarines <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/politics\/article-canada-german-south-korean-companies-submarine-purchase\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer nofollow noopener\" title=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/politics\/article-canada-german-south-korean-companies-submarine-purchase\/\">down to two suppliers<\/a>: South Korea\u2019s Hanwha or a German-Norwegian project with manufacturer ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) in Germany. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Vice-Admiral Angus Topshee, commander of the Royal Canadian Navy, said Ottawa is exploring the benefits that could come from purchasing the subs through a \u201cstrategic partnership\u201d with foreign governments.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text mv-16 l-inset text-pb-8\" data-sophi-feature=\"interstitial\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/politics\/article-canada-submarine-fleet-hanwha-thyssenkrupp-indo-pacific\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Canada\u2019s submarine choice could break tradition, embrace South Korea in Indo-Pacific shift<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">In an interview, he pointed to Norway\u2019s recent decision to buy frigates from Britain\u2019s BAE Systems that is being undertaken through a top-level partnership between London and Oslo.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The navy commander likened such a partnership to AUKUS, the Australian-British-American pact to share nuclear propulsion technology with Australia.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Canada\u2019s purchase of as many as a dozen new submarines will give this country a capability it doesn\u2019t have right now with four subs, most of which are not operational. And the procurement has the prospect to exceed Ottawa\u2019s purchase of new F-35 fighter jets, with some analysts projecting the total acquisition cost over the boats\u2019 life cycle could hit $120-billion for 12 subs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Vice-Adm. Topshee said a direct government-to-government contract in which the home country of the defence contractor is responsible for delivering submarines, rather than the company itself, could yield more benefits for Canada.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">\u201cWhat if we want to insist on German and Norwegian investment in a certain Canadian technology? What if there\u2019s some sort of LNG deal as part of this?\u201d he said, referring to Canadian exports of liquefied natural gas.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The commander said these types of decisions go beyond the remit of defence contractors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">\u201cAnd that\u2019s why I think we\u2019re probably more inclined toward a government-to-government arrangement, because the type of strategic partnership we\u2019re looking to do is going to be more between governments, enabled by the acquisition of a submarine.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Vice-Adm. Topshee said the governments of Norway and Germany, or South Korea, may be able to offer more favourable terms in a sub purchase contract than the underlying manufacturers. \u201cThe honest truth is, we may be looking for concessions or arrangements with Germany and Norway or South Korea that TKMS and Hanwha can\u2019t grant,\u201d the commander said.<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/W6SU5PKLZFD4NAOZJXDHGEVUFE.JPG?auth=41ef7415b21b9fe2b1aed2ae7de3e593fe337284cb5cd3ab4686d7f09626b09f&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"1\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">A model of a 212 CD submarine, shown at the Haakonsvern naval base in Norway.Annette Riedl\/Reuters<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">One benefit could be accelerated delivery of submarines. TKMS is building the 212 CD sub for the German and Norwegian navies and has a production schedule to give some early boats to those two countries. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">\u201cIf we were to say, \u2018Okay, well we want the third one off the line,\u2019 and TKMS can\u2019t give that to us,\u201d then perhaps the German and Norwegian governments \u201ccould agree: \u2018We will delay the delivery of the submarine to us and give it to Canada first,\u2019\u201d Vice-Adm. Topshee said<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">He said direct negotiation with governments could also allow for more Canadian input not only in the submarines built for this country but also the submarines that the South Korean and German manufacturers are building for other clients, including their own navies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Vice-Adm. Topshee said, for example, the first four submarines might be straight copies of what the manufacturers are already building for other clients, but Canada might be able to change the order for the next two batches of four submarines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Maybe, \u201cfor submarines five through eight, we\u2019d really like to see the incorporation of Canadian technology, not only into the design for our submarines but also in the ones for Norway and Germany, or South Korea,\u201d he said. \u201cIs that something those countries would be willing to consider?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/EU52HI6EEJFHBBEU6HWYNB6QRY.JPG?auth=c6e5016ead856ef73726a5b145a02ede281f8bcaf16f4eb95949fca23196ca21&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"2\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">A model of a Hanwha KSS-III submarine at the Canadian Association of Defence and Security Industries annual trade show in Ottawa.Justin Tang\/The Canadian Press<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">And for the final four submarines, Canada might be able to arrange a significant further \u201cCanadianization of the boats where Canadian companies play an even greater role in the building of these subs,\u201d the commander said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">\u201cThat is all stuff we\u2019re looking at.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The navy commander said the new sub purchase would lead to about 750 jobs on both the Pacific and Atlantic coasts for dedicated maintenance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Hanwha says if under contract by 2026, it could deliver the first boat by 2032 and four subs by 2035. TKMS has said it\u2019s \u201cpositioned to deliver the first submarine well in advance of 2035 and working closely with the Royal Canadian Navy for the remainder of the fleet.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Open this photo in gallery: Members of the Royal Canadian Navy stand aboard the HMCS Corner Brook submarine&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":154509,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[49,48,44,714],"class_list":{"0":"post-154508","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-canada","8":"tag-ca","9":"tag-canada","10":"tag-news","11":"tag-politics"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/154508","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=154508"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/154508\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/154509"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=154508"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=154508"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=154508"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}