{"id":167552,"date":"2025-09-25T03:40:07","date_gmt":"2025-09-25T03:40:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/167552\/"},"modified":"2025-09-25T03:40:07","modified_gmt":"2025-09-25T03:40:07","slug":"would-that-be-enough-to-convince-you-openai-ceo-sam-altman-and-father-of-quantum-computing-debate-ais-true-test","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/167552\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Would that be enough to convince you\u2019: OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and father of quantum computing debate AI\u2019s true test"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <img src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/openai-ceo-sam-altman.jpg\" alt=\"\u2018Would that be enough to convince you\u2019: OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and father of quantum computing debate AI\u2019s true test\" decoding=\"async\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/> OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and British physicist David Deutsch have agreed on a striking new test for artificial intelligence (AI) \u2013 if an AI model could solve the mystery of quantum gravity \u2014 and explain its reasoning \u2014 it could be considered human-level smart. According to a Business Insider report, the exchange happened on Wednesday (September 24) in Berlin, where Altman visited Axel Springer\u2019s headquarters to meet tech leaders and collect an award. During a fireside chat, publisher Mathias D\u00f6pfner asked Sam Altman about his favorite book \u2014 Deutsch\u2019s The Beginning of Infinity \u2014 and then surprised him by patching the author in live from Oxford.Deutsch, often called the father of quantum computing, has long argued that brute-force training alone cannot produce true minds. He said real intelligence means creating knowledge, not just repeating or remixing it. \u201cLarge language models can talk endlessly because they are trained on huge bodies of knowledge,\u201d he explained. \u201cIn my mind, genuine intelligence is the ability to create knowledge \u2014 spot a problem, invent a solution, test it, and improve it as humans do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A new test for AGI<\/p>\n<p>Sam Altman, smiling as Deutsch appeared on screen, asked a direct question: what would it take to convince him that an AI had reached real intelligence? Deutsch pointed to Einstein\u2019s theory of relativity as an example of knowledge creation. \u201cWe know he created it because we know his story, what problems he was addressing, and why,\u201d he said.Then Sam Altman offered a hypothetical: \u201cIf a future model figured out quantum gravity and could tell you its story \u2014 the problems it chose, the reasons it pursued them \u2014 would that be enough to convince you?\u201d\u201cI think it would, yes,\u201d Deutsch replied.Altman agreed: \u201cI agree to that as the test.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and British physicist David Deutsch have agreed on a striking new test for artificial&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":167553,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[49,48,285,86296,278,55452,86295,6807,61],"class_list":["post-167552","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-computing","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-computing","tag-david-deutsch","tag-openai","tag-openai-ceo","tag-openai-ceo-sam-altman","tag-quantum-gravity","tag-technology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/167552","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=167552"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/167552\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/167553"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=167552"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=167552"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=167552"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}