{"id":234622,"date":"2025-10-23T14:42:08","date_gmt":"2025-10-23T14:42:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/234622\/"},"modified":"2025-10-23T14:42:08","modified_gmt":"2025-10-23T14:42:08","slug":"trump-says-australia-will-get-the-aukus-submarines-but-the-decision-wont-be-his-to-make-aukus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/234622\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump says Australia will get the Aukus submarines \u2013 but the decision won\u2019t be his to make | Aukus"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Even by the standards of the Trumpian promise, the unvarnished commitment to Australia on US nuclear submarines \u2013 \u201cthey\u2019re getting them\u201d \u2013 is entirely unreliable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">They are not the US president\u2019s boats to give.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The decision on whether Australia ever receives a Virginia-class nuclear-powered submarine from America will not be Trump\u2019s to make.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">For all the powers being husbanded to this imperial presidency, there are still limits to the power of the Oval Office. Trump can\u2019t simply will <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/aukus\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" data-component=\"auto-linked-tag\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Aukus<\/a> into being.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Of course, Aukus has always been as much a political agreement as a military one.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Australia\u2019s political class has taken great succour from the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/2025\/oct\/20\/albanese-at-the-white-house-trump-endorses-aukus-signs-85bn-rare-earths-deal-and-calls-pm-great-leader\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">fiercely supportive words<\/a> from the current US president this week \u2013 \u201creally moving along really rapidly, very well \u2026 full steam ahead\u201d \u2013 but the practicalities, and the black letters of the Aukus legislation (not to mention the 22nd amendment) cannot be ignored.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">If the US constitution is to be relied upon at all, Trump cannot be in office in 2031 when the decision will be taken whether or not to sell Australia a Virginia-class boat.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The US constitution is clear: presidents are limited to two terms of office. Trump\u2019s second will expire at midday on 20 January 2029.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/email-newsletters?CMP=copyembed&amp;CMP=emailbutton\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sign up: AU Breaking News email<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Equally clear is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.congress.gov\/bill\/118th-congress\/house-bill\/2670\/text\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">legislation passed by the US Congress<\/a>: not later than 270 days before any boat is sold to Australia in 2032, the US commander-in-chief \u2013 the president of the day \u2013 must certify that America relinquishing a submarine \u201cwill not degrade the United States undersea capabilities\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">The US fleet currently has only three-quarters of the submarines it needs (49 boats of a force-level goal of 66). The US navy estimates it needs to be building Virginia-class submarines at a rate of two per year to meet its own defence requirements, and about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.documentcloud.org\/documents\/26032148-aukus-submarine-production\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2.33 to have enough boats to sell any to Australia<\/a>. It is currently building Virginia-class submarines at a rate of about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.documentcloud.org\/documents\/26032148-aukus-submarine-production\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">1.13 a year<\/a>, senior admirals say.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">If the US navy needs the submarine, it cannot be sold to Australia, regardless of how much the president might wish it. Despite the injection of billions of Australian dollars into America\u2019s ailing shipbuilding industry, this fundamental condition appears increasingly impossible to meet.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Key moments from Albanese and Trump's White House meeting \u2013 video\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/3486.jpg\" height=\"259\" width=\"460\" class=\"dcr-1qi2at0\"\/>Key moments from Albanese and Trump&#8217;s White House meeting \u2013 video<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Beyond the sclerotic rates of shipbuilding in the US, myriad complexities are still unaddressed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Domestically in Australia, fundamental questions remain: how will these massive boats be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/2025\/oct\/20\/aukus-submarine-workforce-nuclear-powered-boats-australia\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">crewed, supported, maintained<\/a>, even welded together. Will they meet Australia\u2019s defence needs when they arrive \u2013 the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/2025\/sep\/14\/aukus-australian-submarines-vulnerable-new-technology\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">apex predator of today\u2019s oceans<\/a>, the prey of tomorrow\u2019s technologies?<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Where will the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2025\/aug\/10\/the-lethal-legacy-of-aukus-nuclear-submarines-will-remain-for-millennia-and-theres-no-plan-to-deal-with-it\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">high-level nuclear waste<\/a> they produce go? It will be toxic for millennia and a security risk. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.minister.defence.gov.au\/transcripts\/2023-03-14\/press-conference-parliament-house-canberra\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">More than two years ago<\/a>, the defence minister promised that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2023\/mar\/15\/aukus-submarines-liberal-mp-rowan-ramsey-nuclear-waste-storage-site-south-australia\" data-link-name=\"in body link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">process for establishing a nuclear waste site<\/a> on defence land \u201ccurrent or future\u201d would be publicly revealed \u201cwithin 12 months\u201d. There has been nothing since.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Legislation also prohibits the US from transferring a submarine to Australia if Australia has not demonstrated the \u201cdomestic capacity to fully perform all the \u2026 activities necessary for the safe hosting and operation of nuclear-powered submarines\u201d.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Promises of fealty to the deal might make for good politics, but they are only meaningful when they reflect something approximating reality.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">Aukus faces monumental, perhaps insurmountable hurdles. Those trying to implement it know that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"dcr-130mj7b\">They know, too, that the Trump-Albanese meeting has not altered that reality one bit.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Even by the standards of the Trumpian promise, the unvarnished commitment to Australia on US nuclear submarines \u2013&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":234623,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[45,49,48,46],"class_list":["post-234622","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-economy","tag-business","tag-ca","tag-canada","tag-economy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/234622","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=234622"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/234622\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/234623"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=234622"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=234622"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=234622"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}