{"id":234987,"date":"2025-10-23T18:08:07","date_gmt":"2025-10-23T18:08:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/234987\/"},"modified":"2025-10-23T18:08:07","modified_gmt":"2025-10-23T18:08:07","slug":"my-brother-relies-on-a-prescription-drug-discount-in-order-to-afford-a-drug-he-needs-to-survive-i-think-he-might-have-just-disqualified-himself","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/234987\/","title":{"rendered":"My brother relies on a prescription drug discount in order to afford a drug he needs to survive. I think he might have just disqualified himself."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"19\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cv9lh000gdcm6jkl4cfm4@published\">Pay Dirt is Slate\u2019s money advice column. Have a question? <a href=\"https:\/\/forms.gle\/icQft75iXrVCaSkaA\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Send it to Kristin and Ilyce here<\/a>. (It\u2019s anonymous!)<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"3\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cv9lh000idcm6fgij8ss1@published\">Dear Pay Dirt,<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"49\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw7ix000a3b777enm9x9h@published\">My 88-year-old brother recently came to live with me from the opposite coast because he needs more care than he was getting. He pretty much stopped taking care of business a while ago, and I am trying to get his finances back in order, although he makes the decisions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"55\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw7lp000b3b77v3mytw5j@published\">We were able to retrieve valuable coins from his former state\u2019s unclaimed property program, but had to sell many of them because they were too heavy to transport, and he got tens of thousands of dollars from the sale. I now think this is going to turn out to be a big problem for him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"85\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cy618000x3b772bvwlfaw@published\">I assume that he will have to pay capital gains tax on the amount that the coins\u2019 value has increased since he and his (now deceased) wife purchased them. However, he does not remember when they bought the coins or what they paid for them. How are the capital gains treated, as income taken all in the year of sale or amortized? When he figures out when he and his wife bought them, how do we find out what they were worth at that time?<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"73\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw7np000c3b77tnm1v6l6@published\">I am particularly concerned about this as he is extremely low income, living on less than $1,000 a month income plus savings. He does not have prescription coverage and receives a very expensive drug for a chronic condition from the pharmaceutical company for free due to his low income. I am afraid he will lose this benefit if his income is too high for one year due to the sale of the coins.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"1\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw7po000d3b77c1ug141q@published\">\u2014Worried<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"2\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw7ru000e3b77aj3ngqlk@published\">Dear Worried,<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"57\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw7ux000f3b77lc5kbnz9@published\">You\u2019re smart to get ahead of this. To clarify what you\u2019re talking about here, the IRS treats any profit from selling certain collectibles, <a href=\"https:\/\/learn.apmex.com\/answers\/what-are-the-tax-rules-for-buying-selling-and-inheriting-coins\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">like coins<\/a>, as a capital gain. In other words, your brother will owe taxes on the difference between what he paid for the coins (his \u201ccost basis\u201d) and how much he sold them for.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"61\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw7wl000g3b77bukj1g3m@published\">And because coins are classified as collectibles, the tax rate can be higher than it is for regular investments. If he owned the coins for more than a year, the gain will be taxed up to 28 percent. If he owned them a year or less, the profit is taxed as ordinary income\u2014up to 37 percent, depending on his tax bracket.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"102\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw7yw000h3b77yenkqp91@published\">The tricky part is figuring out what the coins originally cost him. If he doesn\u2019t remember and doesn\u2019t have any records of the sale, the IRS <a href=\"https:\/\/claimyr.com\/government-services\/irs\/Capital-Gains-Tax-What-If-You-Lose-Purchase-Receipts-for-Precious-Metals-or-Collectibles\/2025-04-11\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">expects a reasonable estimate<\/a>. You can look up historic prices for the type of coins he had\u2014there are <a href=\"https:\/\/learn.apmex.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">online databases<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcgs.com\/prices\/us\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">coin dealer archives<\/a> that show what coins were worth in past years. If you know roughly when he bought them, you can use those prices to estimate their original value. Ideally, your brother would have documentation to prove what he paid for the coins, but without that, the best he can do is an estimate.<\/p>\n<p>          <a href=\"https:\/\/slate.com\/advice\/2025\/10\/sex-advice-intese-sweaty-activity-turn-on.html\" class=\"in-article-recirc__link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/p>\n<p>            My Girlfriend Begs Me to Have Sex Every Time I Come Home From a Certain Activity. There\u2019s No Way Anyone Is Actually Into This.<br \/>\n          <\/a><\/p>\n<p>          <a href=\"https:\/\/slate.com\/advice\/2025\/10\/money-advice-inheritance-hate.html\" class=\"in-article-recirc__link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/p>\n<p>            I\u2019m Getting a Big Inheritance. I Hate It.<br \/>\n          <\/a><\/p>\n<p>          <a href=\"https:\/\/slate.com\/advice\/2025\/10\/family-advice-thanksgiving-dinner-alcohol.html\" class=\"in-article-recirc__link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/p>\n<p>            Help! My Family Can Responsibly Handle This Part of Thanksgiving Dinner. But My In-Laws Cannot Be Trusted.<br \/>\n          <\/a><\/p>\n<p>          <a href=\"https:\/\/slate.com\/advice\/2025\/10\/work-advice-sick-colleague-scam.html\" class=\"in-article-recirc__link\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/p>\n<p>            I\u2019ve Been Covering for My Sick Colleague for Years. Then One Night, He Drunkenly Confessed the Truth.<br \/>\n          <\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"92\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw81o000i3b77hal7szc6@published\">If his income is low, he\u2019s reporting the sale honestly, and especially if he leaves a note about how he came to estimate the cost basis, the chance of getting audited is probably low, but your best bet is to talk to a tax professional. They can help you write up a note or explanation to include with the return, just in case the IRS ever asks questions about his estimate. You can start your search through the <a href=\"https:\/\/irs.treasury.gov\/rpo\/rpo.jsf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">IRS Directory of Federal Tax Return Preparers<\/a> or the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.naea.org\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">National Association of Enrolled Agents<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"107\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw83s000j3b778s4jn8vs@published\">As for the impact of this on his benefits, you\u2019re right\u2014the sale could bump his income for that tax year and potentially disqualify him from certain programs. This usually isn\u2019t permanent, though. Most programs will re-evaluate eligibility each year. Again, a tax professional can help you sort through the details and figure out ways to avoid something like that. If the prescription assistance he\u2019s getting is part of a <a href=\"https:\/\/ca.db101.org\/ca\/programs\/health_coverage\/prescription\/adap\/program2c.htm\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">private Patient Assistance Program <\/a>\u00a0(in other words, it comes directly from the pharmaceutical company rather than a federal benefit) it\u2019s worth contacting the company directly to explain the situation and see how the sale might affect his qualification.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"53\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cw85v000k3b775mfrhq1k@published\">You\u2019re doing the right thing by asking questions and trying to protect your brother. But the truth is, it could get complicated, and you don\u2019t want to risk mistakes with the IRS. A good tax professional might cost you a few hundred bucks, but the peace of mind will be well worth it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"1\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cv9lh000jdcm6pehn7o0l@published\">\u2014Kristin<\/p>\n<p>More Money Advice From Slate<\/p>\n<p class=\"slate-paragraph slate-graf\" data-word-count=\"93\" data-uri=\"slate.com\/_components\/slate-paragraph\/instances\/cmh2cv9lh000ldcm6xi0spllv@published\">My husband travels for work so I am often alone with our two small children. We have a guest room and are located a bike ride away from two different colleges. Rented rooms here average at least $800. We had success asking students from families we know if they wanted to stay with us in exchange for 10 hours of child care and their own groceries. We ask that they have no overnight guests and maintain reasonable hours. <a href=\"https:\/\/slate.com\/business\/2024\/03\/college-students-child-care-spare-room-personal-finance-advice.html\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">It worked beautifully\u2014until \u201cMia,\u201d a cousin who commutes two hours away to attend class here. <\/a><\/p>\n<p>      Get the latest from Prudie and our columnists in your inbox each weekday, plus special bonus letters on Saturdays.\n    <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Pay Dirt is Slate\u2019s money advice column. Have a question? Send it to Kristin and Ilyce here. 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