{"id":236148,"date":"2025-10-24T05:12:13","date_gmt":"2025-10-24T05:12:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/236148\/"},"modified":"2025-10-24T05:12:13","modified_gmt":"2025-10-24T05:12:13","slug":"from-6-to-600-ballots-what-went-wrong-with-the-count-in-sipiwiyiniwak-edmonton","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/236148\/","title":{"rendered":"From 6 to 600 ballots: What went wrong with the count in sipiwiyiniwak? &#8211; Edmonton"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>How did two Edmonton city council front-runners go from being six votes apart, to more than 600?<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1760811489_47_70c8fc80.png\" alt=\"\" style=\"position:absolute;width:1px;height:1px\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer-when-downgrade\"\/><\/p>\n<p>The question has been on many minds over the past 24 hours, after that scenario played out in a ward where no incumbent left the race wide open for newcomers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was clearly human error,\u201d said political analyst John Brennan.<\/p>\n<p>But who messed up and how?<\/p>\n<p>The race for city council was tight in the west <a href=\"https:\/\/globalnews.ca\/?s=edmonton+election\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Edmonton election<\/a> ward of <a href=\"https:\/\/globalnews.ca\/tag\/ward-sipiwiyiniwak\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sipiwiyiniwak,<\/a> after incumbent Sarah Hamilton elected not to run for council again.<\/p>\n<p>Seven people ran for the open seat, and the top contenders came so close after the first round of hand counting, election officials said the ballots all needed to be examined again.<\/p>\n<p>Story continues below advertisement<\/p>\n<p>After all the ballots from 23 polling stations and advance votes were counted, the first and second-place candidates were just six votes apart.<\/p>\n<p>Better Edmonton candidate Darrell Friesen got 6,060 votes and independent candidate Thu Parmar got 6,054 votes.<\/p>\n<p>Parmar said it was closer than expected but she accepted the results and was already looking to get on with life and return to her job at the Canadian Red Cross.<\/p>\n<p>Then, she got a call from elections officials.<\/p>\n<p>\n\t\t\tMore on Politics<br \/>\n\t\t\tMore videos\n\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThey knew something was wrong,\u201d Parmar said.<\/p>\n<p>On Wednesday,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/globalnews.ca\/tag\/edmonton-election\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener nofollow\">Edmonton Elections<\/a> called a preliminary recount for the city council race as the returning officer believed \u201cthere may have been administrative or technical mistakes that caused an error in the count of votes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>After the second count, Parmar not only came out in the lead with 6,667 votes, but she beat Friesen by 600 votes.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was more than I anticipated for sure, as far as the difference,\u201d Friesen told Global News. He received 6,040 votes and conceded the election.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think at times you have to let the outcome happen,\u201d Friesen said. \u201cFirst we voted, then we re-checked it, and the outcome was not in my favour.<\/p>\n<p>Story continues below advertisement<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-blockquote__content l-article__blockquoteContent\">\u201cSo you have to respect what democracy is.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So how was there such a big discrepancy?<\/p>\n<p>On Thursday, Edmonton Elections released an explanation and chalked it up to human error in the hand-counting ballot process \u2014 something required due to 2024 provincial legislation banning electronic voting.<\/p>\n<p>The city said ballot accounting is the process of confirming the accuracy of preliminary election results by reconciling the ballot counting documents used.<\/p>\n<p>This includes the counting tally sheets for each table, the consolidated tally sheets, the final Form 19 (Statement of Results) and the final entry into the voter view results system which is published to Open Data and ultimately online for all to see.<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"170\" height=\"225\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1760811490_766_national.jpg\" alt=\"For news impacting Canada and around the world, sign up for breaking news alerts delivered directly to you when they happen.\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\tGet breaking National news<\/p>\n<p>For news impacting Canada and around the world, sign up for breaking news alerts delivered directly to you when they happen.<\/p>\n<p>As part of this process which began on Wednesday, a transposition error from one of the tally sheets was identified for ward sipiwiyiniwak.<\/p>\n<p>While counting the advance vote ballots at the Edmonton EXPO centre, the counting teams found one candidate, Roger Kotch, was missing from the first tally sheet and manually added it.<\/p>\n<p>The counting results were correctly recorded on that tally sheet.<\/p>\n<p>However, when the results were consolidated into a second tally sheet, the results were copied over incorrectly as the candidate names were not in the same order.<\/p>\n<p>Story continues below advertisement<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis human error during advance vote counting caused the wrong results to be added to Form 19 and entered into the results system and published,\u201d Elections Edmonton said in a statement on Thursday.<\/p>\n<p>Put simply, someone entered the wrong data in the wrong place, resulting in the wrong candidate \u2014 Kotch \u2014 getting extra votes that should have instead gone to Parmar.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAll you can attest that to is human error \u2014 it happens, usually not on this large scale,\u201d said Brennan.<\/p>\n<p>He said the provincial governing UCP forcing municipalities to go back to hand-counting ballots is a big part of the issue.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEdmonton Elections has been using vote tabulating machines for decades. I think going back to the 1980s. This is the first time they\u2019ve gone back to hand-counted ballots for a long time, and so it obviously created some problems.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Story continues below advertisement<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"c-video__image\" alt=\"Click to play video: 'Some Alberta voters \u2018walk away\u2019 from municipal election lineups'\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/CGY_OFFIN_THUMB_211025.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\"   data-\/><\/p>\n<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t2:12<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSome Alberta voters \u2018walk away\u2019 from municipal election lineups\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>Unlike provincial and federal elections where voters cast one ballot, Brennan noted during municipal elections there are three being filled out \u2014 for mayor, city councillor and school trustee \u2014 which complicates the process.<\/p>\n<p>\n\t\tTrending Now\n\t<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/globalnews.ca\/news\/11490983\/rogers-class-action-lawsuit\/\" class=\"c-posts__inner\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"c-posts__thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1761282731_485_20220727130732-62e17725698e03d888d3998ejpeg.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"336\" height=\"224\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tRogers outage lawsuit moving ahead, millions may get compensation\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/globalnews.ca\/news\/11490352\/poilievre-rcmp-comments-trudeau-jail-denial\/\" class=\"c-posts__inner\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"c-posts__thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/1761282732_384_56c597037fbceaaf1d6f16bb78f8f08618252db2ce9417548b58eca7d24506ee.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"336\" height=\"224\" alt=\"\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\n\t\t\t\t\tPoilievre defends RCMP comments, denies saying Trudeau should be in jail\n\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"c-blockquote__content l-article__blockquoteContent\">\u201cThat is why Edmonton and Calgary moved decades ago to use vote tabulating machines \u2014 so that they wouldn\u2019t have this problem.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Elections Edmonton said the error was caught on Wednesday during the recount for ward sipiwiyiniwak.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis re-counting process identified a discrepancy in the original advance vote preliminary results reported publicly and the re-counted results. It determined that there was a transposition error where some of the tally results were attributed to the wrong candidate,\u201d the election organization said.<\/p>\n<p>Friesen watched the recount happen and accepts what happened was human error.<\/p>\n<p>Story continues below advertisement<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt doesn\u2019t give me pause because I believe we got it right. I believe Thu was elected and she\u2019ll serve well. She\u2019ll be a great councillor for our ward,\u201d Friesen said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt was a human administration error,\u201d Parmar agreed. \u201cAnd there\u2019s so much fake news now about the counting of the ballots, but it actually wasn\u2019t that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-blockquote__content l-article__blockquoteContent\">\u201cAnd we can\u2019t judge on the error but we need to actually talk about the system \u2014 what failed in the system versus blaming the person, the people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Better Edmonton leader and mayoral candidate Tim Cartmell is calling for a third-party audit of the election. Brennan notes many of the issues in this election stem directly from provincial legislation changes.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think that we should be very clear that a lot of the problems that were caused in this election were caused by changes the UCP government made to the Local Authorities Election Act \u2014 for no reason.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"c-video__image\" alt=\"Click to play video: 'Slow results and long lines in 2025 Edmonton election'\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/6P-ELECTION-WTF.jpg\" loading=\"lazy\"   data-\/><\/p>\n<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t2:02<br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSlow results and long lines in 2025 Edmonton election\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<p>Global News spoke with an Edmonton Elections presiding deputy who has worked about a dozen civic, provincial and federal elections over the years. They said there wasn\u2019t enough staff and the staff they did have were not trained properly before polls opened.<\/p>\n<p>Story continues below advertisement<\/p>\n<p>They said a big choke point on Monday night, that led to lengthy waits to vote, was the process of registering people in a new permanent voter registry. Each person took three to five minutes to register in the database the province required municipalities to create for this election. Brennan said it was unnecessary.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s never been problems with elections fraud in Alberta, let alone at local elections. So they put in place a process to deal with something that didn\u2019t exist. They put in a place a solution looking for a problem.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-blockquote__content l-article__blockquoteContent\">\u201cThey caused some of these problems.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Brennan said Edmonton Elections also likely needed more staff in order to run the polling stations quicker, especially in light of the new steps that were required.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSure, there were problems, but here\u2019s the beauty of it \u2014 the problems were caught.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A review of the election will take place, Brennan said, either proactively by Edmonton Elections or at the direction of the new city council.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen we get that review, we\u2019ll be able to see what was done right, what was wrong, and what could be done better for 2029.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"How did two Edmonton city council front-runners go from being six votes apart, to more than 600? 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