‘When you’ve been with somebody for five, 10, 15, 20 years, that’s not something to just see as a failure if it doesn’t pass the test of longevity’<\/p>\n
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Or sign-in<\/a> if you have an account.<\/p>\n In a new appearance on the Can\u2019t Be Censored podcast<\/a>, Justin Trudeau\u2019s ex-wife Sophie Gregoire says the former prime minister\u2019s romance with Katy Perry \u201cfeels like noise.\u201d<\/p>\n Advertisement 2<\/p>\n This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below.<\/p>\n THIS CONTENT IS RESERVED FOR SUBSCRIBERS ONLY<\/p>\n Subscribe now to read the latest news in your city and across Canada.<\/p>\n Unlimited online access to articles from across Canada with one account.Get exclusive access to the Toronto Sun ePaper, an electronic replica of the print edition that you can share, download and comment on.Enjoy insights and behind-the-scenes analysis from our award-winning journalists.Support local journalists and the next generation of journalists.Daily puzzles including the New York Times Crossword.<\/p>\n SUBSCRIBE TO UNLOCK MORE ARTICLES<\/p>\n Subscribe now to read the latest news in your city and across Canada.<\/p>\n Unlimited online access to articles from across Canada with one account.Get exclusive access to the Toronto Sun ePaper, an electronic replica of the print edition that you can share, download and comment on.Enjoy insights and behind-the-scenes analysis from our award-winning journalists.Support local journalists and the next generation of journalists.Daily puzzles including the New York Times Crossword.<\/p>\n REGISTER \/ SIGN IN TO UNLOCK MORE ARTICLES<\/p>\n Create an account or sign in to continue with your reading experience.<\/p>\n Access articles from across Canada with one account.Share your thoughts and join the conversation in the comments.Enjoy additional articles per month.Get email updates from your favourite authors.<\/p>\n THIS ARTICLE IS FREE TO READ REGISTER TO UNLOCK.<\/p>\n Create an account or sign in to continue with your reading experience.<\/p>\n Access articles from across Canada with one accountShare your thoughts and join the conversation in the commentsEnjoy additional articles per monthGet email updates from your favourite authors<\/p>\n Article content<\/p>\n Trudeau, whose 18-year marriage to Gregoire ended in 2023, has recently been linked to the Grammy-nominated pop star since earlier this summer and the pair recently debuted their romance during a night out in Paris.<\/p>\n Article content<\/p>\n Article content<\/p>\n Gregoire, 50, was asked about her ex\u2019s new relationship during a nearly-hour long conversation with hosts Travis Dhanraj and Karman Wong.<\/p>\n \u201cThere\u2019s still such great public interest in your romantic life, in that of Justin\u2019s. How does that even feel when you have to see pictures of someone you\u2019ve been with for so long with someone else in such a public way?\u201d Wong asked.<\/p>\n \u201cIt feels like, \u2018Yap, yap, yap, yap\u2019 \u2026 It feels like noise,\u201d replied Gregoire, who wed Trudeau in 2005 and shares three children with. \u201cI\u2019m a human. That noise can be hard to hear \u2026 whether it\u2019s visually or sound bites.\u201d<\/p>\n Your Midday Sun<\/p>\n Thanks for signing up!<\/p>\n Article content<\/p>\n Advertisement 3<\/p>\n This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below.<\/p>\n Article content<\/p>\n So, Gregoire has tuned out much of the chatter surrounding Trudeau and Perry and the new couple dominate the headlines.<\/p>\n \u201cI want to hear the music,\u201d Gregoire told Dhanraj and Wong. \u201cWhen I take my last breath, I just want to be at peace with the question, \u2018Was I present enough in my being and did I love enough?\u2019 And you know what, at this stage, there are some yeses that come up and I want to make sure I stay on that path. That path means, don\u2019t attach to the noise, the drama, the gossip, the clips. How is that going to serve me anyway? I don\u2019t control other people\u2019s choices.\u201d<\/p>\n Gregoire said news of Trudeau\u2019s new relationship \u201cdoes impact\u201d her.<\/p>\n \u201cI\u2019m a human being,\u201d she said. \u201cBut how you react to it. How you decant it. How you discern and take perspective from what is happening. You know, we\u2019re all good people in this \u2026 Life throws obstacles at you \u2026 Everybody has it \u2026 Sometimes, when it\u2019s in the eyes of the world, it\u2019s not as fun to navigate. But the universe has your back. You need to decide how am I going to navigate this?\u201d<\/p>\n Gregoire said that when she separated from Trudeau a friend told her she chose her \u201cauthenticity over attachment.\u201d<\/p>\n \u201cWhen you\u2019ve been with somebody for five, 10, 15, 20 years, that\u2019s not something to just see as a failure if it doesn\u2019t pass the test of longevity,\u201d she continued. \u201cYou already passed the test of longevity.\u201d<\/p>\n Advertisement 4<\/p>\n This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below.<\/p>\n Article content<\/p>\n We apologize, but this video has failed to load.<\/p>\n Play VideoHow Sophie handles Justin and Katy\u2019s PDA<\/p>\n Trudeau and Perry first sparked dating rumours when they were spotted having dinner in Montreal in July.<\/p>\n Shortly afterward, photos and videos shared to social media showed Trudeau dancing and singing at Perry\u2019s concert at Montreal\u2019s Bell Centre alongside his 16-year-old daughter, Ella-Grace.<\/p>\n In one video, Trudeau was seen belting out the lyrics to Perry\u2019s 2010 hit, Firework.<\/p>\n We apologize, but this video has failed to load.<\/p>\n Play Video<\/p>\n The pair were then photographed in late September\u00a0hugging and kissing aboard Perry\u2019s yacht<\/a>.<\/p>\n In a series of photos\u00a0published by the\u00a0Daily Mail<\/a> last month, Perry was seen in a black one-piece with Trudeau, 53, going shirtless in a pair of jeans as they nuzzled into one another and kissed aboard her 24-metre vessel, the Caravelle.<\/p>\n Advertisement 5<\/p>\n This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below.<\/p>\n Article content<\/p>\n They then celebrated Perry\u2019s 41st birthday at the Crazy Horse Paris and were photographed by\u00a0TMZ<\/a> exiting the venue holding hands and smiling.<\/p>\n \u201cOf course, Katy and Justin looked absolutely stunning together and appeared to be happier than clams,\u201d the website reported.<\/p>\n An insider close to Perry told PEOPLE<\/a> that the whirlwind romance is a \u201clife twist\u201d that caught the pop star by surprise following her split from actor Orlando Bloom, with whom she shares a daughter, earlier this summer.<\/p>\n \u201cDating Justin is something she never saw coming, but she\u2019s really enjoying this surprising life twist,\u201d the Perry source said.<\/p>\n Another source told Page Six<\/a> that Perry and Trudeau are \u201csimpatico on everything.\u201d<\/p>\n A third person suggested that Trudeau might be going through a \u201cmidlife crisis\u201d as he romances Perry.<\/p>\n Advertisement 6<\/p>\n This advertisement has not loaded yet, but your article continues below.<\/p>\n Article content<\/p>\n Following her split with Trudeau, Gregoire reportedly re-partnered with an Ottawa doctor<\/a>. As pictures of Trudeau and Perry made front-page news, she shared a cryptic message about \u201cletting go\u201d with her 371,000 Instagram followers.<\/p>\n \u201cSometimes we forget that nothing we love is ever meant to be kept,\u201d Gregoire said in a post<\/a>. \u201cPeople, places, moments \u2014 they\u2019re all meant to be lived, not possessed.\u201d<\/p>\n But during a recent stop on Arlene Dickinson\u2019s Arlene Is Alone: The Single Life<\/a>, Gregoire insisted she wasn\u2019t bothered by Trudeau\u2019s new relationship<\/a>.<\/p>\n \u201cI don\u2019t know how you stay cool\u2026 I really admire it because I would probably not be that way,\u201d Dickson remarked.<\/p>\n \u201cYou know, we\u2019re human beings and stuff affects us. Normal,\u201d Gregoire responded. \u201cHow you react to stuff is your decision. 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