{"id":294634,"date":"2025-11-20T03:30:15","date_gmt":"2025-11-20T03:30:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/294634\/"},"modified":"2025-11-20T03:30:15","modified_gmt":"2025-11-20T03:30:15","slug":"the-emotional-side-of-illiquidity-and-other-advice-before-wading-into-private-markets","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/294634\/","title":{"rendered":"The emotional side of illiquidity and other advice before wading into private markets"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a style=\"display:block\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/resizer\/v2\/7NF34MDPKBAXZBBS3ZQM6CUCP4.jpg?auth=a19c7f3d0c52c13dfd880d9d5ee7a7daa92c3957fc2b35a68958f72244f12d47&amp;width=600&amp;height=400&amp;quality=80&amp;smart=true\" aria-haspopup=\"true\" data-photo-viewer-index=\"0\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Open this photo in gallery:<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"figcap-text\">Advisors interested in private markets need to get comfortable with the complex strategies that feature less disclosure and often involve locking up client money for years.sorbetto\/iStockPhoto \/ Getty Images<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Tony Davidow has been working with private market investments for decades. The senior alternatives investment strategist at the Franklin Templeton Institute got his start with a family office in New York before moving to Morgan Stanley, where he worked with large pension plans and endowments. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Franklin Templeton hired him to educate advisors on alternative investments, and the white papers and presentations he produced and delivered were the genesis of his recent book, Private Markets: Building Better Portfolios with Private Equity, Private Credit and Private Real Estate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">\u201cI\u2019ve definitely seen the evolution of private markets, which up until recently had really only been available to institutions and family offices,\u201d he says. \u201cNow what\u2019s exciting is we\u2019re bringing these strategies to the wealth [management] channel.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Mr. Davidow sees retail adoption as a slow process. Advisors need to become comfortable with complex strategies that involve less disclosure and often lock up client money for years. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">\u201cIf sold inappropriately and pushed as a product, and people have bad experiences because they didn\u2019t understand the underlying investments were illiquid, that hurts all of us,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Mr. Davidow, who was in Toronto last week, spoke with Globe Advisor about private equity secondaries, commercial real estate debt, and why private investments aren\u2019t for everyone.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">You\u2019ve worked with endowment funds and ultra-high-net-worth clients, but now the barrier is lower and private market funds are a lot more accessible. When you\u2019re talking to advisors, what advice do you have for the types of clients who should be looking at these products? <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">The common pushback I get from advisors is that [these investments are] illiquid. Emotionally, that feels uncomfortable to investors. I can make the intellectual argument really easily: I just put a piece of paper in front of them that shows the superior risk-adjusted returns. The harder discussion is that emotional discussion, which is, you\u2019re essentially giving up control of that asset for an extended period of time. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Illiquidity to me is just a feature. It\u2019s not inherently good or bad. And we need to condition the advisor first and the investor second that there\u2019s a reward for tying up capital, but it\u2019s not for all your money. For most high-net-worth investors, that\u2019s probably going to be 10 to 15 per cent. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">If they\u2019re comfortable and they treat that pool of capital differently \u2013 that\u2019s their long-term capital, that\u2019s their patient capital \u2013 they\u2019re likely to be rewarded handsomely over the long run. But they shouldn\u2019t think of it the same way they do of their traditional investments, where they want to head for the exits anytime there\u2019s a bump in the road.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">It\u2019s been a great decade and a half for both private credit and private equity, but some investors suggest the good times have already occurred, and now this retail money is coming in and contributing to frothiness or chasing assets. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">I think it\u2019s way, way too early to be concerned about that. As much as there\u2019s a lot of noise from the wealth management channel, it\u2019s still a very, very small allocation given the overall pie. The way we look at it is that the public markets are shrinking. There are roughly half the number of publicly traded companies today as there were two decades ago, but the private market opportunity is growing. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">We also know that many of those companies are going to stay private longer, and some will never go public. So, we\u2019d argue that it\u2019s a deeper and richer opportunity set, which in our view means we\u2019ll continue to see that alpha generation over time. If it were a finite universe or a shrinking universe, I think it\u2019d be tough to make that argument.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">Where do you see the risks and opportunities in private investments today?<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">A lot of money has gone into private equity. One of the phenomena that affected the private equity ecosystem is a slowing of the exits \u2013 no initial public offerings, no mergers and acquisitions activity. So, many institutions found themselves overallocated to private equity. While that created a problem for private equity primary ownership, it created a great opportunity for the secondary market. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">We think that continues for the next decade. For individual investors, we get diversification across vintage, we get diversification across general partners. We shorten the \u201cJ curve\u201d \u2013 the time that you commit capital \u2013 because we\u2019re buying seasoned assets, and we get our money back sooner, because those are more mature assets closer to distribution. For the wealth management channel, as we\u2019re starting to introduce private markets, I would think of secondaries as my core private equity allocation. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">[In] private credit, we think direct lending looks a little bit crowded, so we favour commercial real estate debt. There\u2019s something of the magnitude of $3.2-trillion that will need to be financed in the next couple of years. We know that banks aren\u2019t going to step in to lend capital, so private credit managers have the opportunity to step in to fulfill the needs, but they can be selective. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">In 2021, you were a term taker. Because there was so much money chasing so few opportunities, the terms were being dictated to you. Now, if you\u2019re a private credit manager, you\u2019re a term maker, so you get the ability to negotiate the terms that you\u2019re going to lend capital on, and you get the ability to negotiate covenants. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">When we think about real estate, we think there are great opportunities not in the office sector because of the long-term secular headwinds, but areas like industrial, multi-family, [and] specialty retail. We think that now you can buy real estate below replacement costs in many situations, so that looks attractive to us. <\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">And we like infrastructure. We think the opportunities are going to be in digital, connecting the world; decarbonization, thinking about how we deal with climate change; and deglobalization, the fact that supply chains need to be changed, whether it\u2019s from COVID-19 or whether it\u2019s from policies where we need to think about having things near-shored or re-shored. And lastly, changing demographics: where people live, how they live. So we think there\u2019s a lot of opportunity in infrastructure, but maybe not in the way most people think about it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"c-article-body__text text-pr-5\">This interview has been edited and condensed.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Open this photo in gallery: Advisors interested in private markets need to get comfortable with the complex strategies&hellip;\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":294635,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[1397,45,49,48,133,5266,2922,131,132],"class_list":{"0":"post-294634","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-personal-finance","8":"tag-appwebview","9":"tag-business","10":"tag-ca","11":"tag-canada","12":"tag-finance","13":"tag-globe-advisor","14":"tag-noastack","15":"tag-personal-finance","16":"tag-personalfinance"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/294634","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=294634"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/294634\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/294635"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=294634"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=294634"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.newsbeep.com\/ca\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=294634"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}